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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13926
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Che Guevara, one of the most brilliant gureilla fighters of all time, even if the ideology he supports has proven not to be the brightest. What do you all think of the tactics he formulated in support of his revolutions? Cowardice? or courage with brains? what can we learn from his tactics and mindset today? can we learn to bring about our own revolutions?
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 05, 2006
Posts: 337
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I don't really give into him being that great of a military leader. Sure, he was a good tactician, and literally wrote the book on guerrilla warfare. However, I don't really think he was that original. Guerrilla Warfare has been around ever since the invention of the musket. The Revolutionary War could be said to be won in part by guerrilla warfare (Snipers, sabotage, etc). It was hardly anything new. A lot of it had been developed in World War II as well.
Cheated the way from fringe to elite. Clique of stylists, rounded illogic skipping a beat to a dead cert. By lheaving charges and bursting the abscess, with a forked toungue, bloated with courage and spewing self-importance. Drop your sights, aim lower, leave umblemished those with real power.
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Registered: July 21, 2007
Posts: 12
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He had the courage to take on the United States and the Soviet Union at the same time. Poor soul.
MBTI: INTP
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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13926
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I'll look for his diaries, thanks for the tip speed The thing about him using standardized gureilla tactics is that he wrote the book on effectively using half those techniques (which until then were only a bright idea made up by some young KGB agent in moscow) in the field. That alone proved (at one point) innovation and a adaptability though from what you say it appears that as his ideology strengthened his innovation and adaptability (not to mention his common sense) flew the coop, leaving him to be killed, dismembered and buried in a hidden chunk of the bolivian country side. Which brings us to the cult of che and his postion as a hero of revolution, note that he's not a hero of "the" revolution (though he certaintly is in cuba) but a hero of revolution in general, many young (teen) americans turn to him because he presents the romanticized figure of a man fighting against an unjust and evil system and this appeals to teens finding the reigns of rebellion not against the state perhaps, but at least against self and of course parents. How did this man achieve such cult like status globally? Would his legend be lessened if they had his body from the start (they later did find it)?
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: February 05, 2005
Posts: 920
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Amp you should try and get his Bolivian Diaries, I have a copy and he explains his tactical and military reasoning in his own words. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. As a military leader I think he is somewhat overrated, he used standarized guerilla tactics of hit and run and ambushes to take on superior forces, but he overrated his groups worth in bolivia, and didn't account for the fact that he only had around 50 effective soldiers at the movements peak. After that his group became divided and killed of slowly by the army. During this time he displayed a lack of adaptability, which likely stemed from his political idealism. Overall, his worth was greater as a political figure and as a simbol of revolution than as the actual leader of said revolution. Allthough his intent of stirring up the bolivian working class into joining him and replicating cuba's revolution failed, he did manage to make the armed forces exagerate the situation hugely, which in turn did create more popular resentment towards the government. Ultimately his movement failed because the farmers on which he relied as allies sided with the government and sold him out. He was Argentinian, not cuban like most people believe.
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: April 03, 2007
Posts: 232
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Well to start off his reall name is Ernesto Guevara de la Serna. He died October 9th 1967. But anyways Im sure a lot of people know about him...if not youll find out. To me fighting in something you believe in is important. Fortunatly it made him famous. I mean people as young as you or me know about him. And it takes a lot to go out there and go against things that you dont have the same feelings for and fight for yours to get heard. But then again people who don't try as hard or do just don't get heard. He did..both get heard and try. Anyways I would tell everyone who dosent know about him but im tired so long story short he was a Cuban revolutionary and political leader.
Say, it's only a paper moon Sailing over a cardboard sea But it wouldn't be make-believe If you believed in me
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