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Picture of BigSlickAK
Registered: February 19, 2005
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For example, majority of Army Rangers are NCO's. And NCO's cannot repeat any basic training anywhere... how could you have a SSGT DI and a SFC Trainee? The rule is for all military branches is 2 years out, you repeat basic training. So if I want to reenlist for the marines right now, I could with no penalties.


is it just me or did this not make sense. you just said that army NCOs dont repeat boot camp, yet if you leave for 2+ years you repeat boot camp. it actually depends on which basic you went through. from lowest to highest its airforce, navy, army, marines. soooooo if you are army joe e-3 get out and go to marines, you have to go through boot camp. but if you are marine joe e-3 and somehow go to the airforce you dont have to.

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Also, the Army is the largest branch of service, mainly because it has the largest selection of MOS'. And enlistment bonuses.


okay true. it is the largest and oldest branch but its kind of pathetic that they have to offer such HUGE enlistment bonuses in order to get people to join. just because its the largest does not make it the best.


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Registered: February 06, 2007
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Amp:

Are you currently in the Marines, and more importantly, have you been to Iraq? I can tell you right now, the "coasties" are not anymore important than the Army is here. Who do you think is building the Forward Operating Bases here? Or the Control Points in Iraq? It all Army engineers. I would know, I'm in an Engineer Unit. Not only is the Army rebuilding Iraq, but for every rebuilding effort there are Army grunts policing our own security.

It really doesn't sound like you know what your talking about when it comes to the way the military works.

For example, majority of Army Rangers are NCO's. And NCO's cannot repeat any basic training anywhere... how could you have a SSGT DI and a SFC Trainee? The rule is for all military branches is 2 years out, you repeat basic training. So if I want to reenlist for the marines right now, I could with no penalties.

Also, the Army is the largest branch of service, mainly because it has the largest selection of MOS'. And enlistment bonuses.

You are really over estimating the level of training the Marines receive in there basic training. All initial entry training is just that, BASIC. Nothing special, just basic soldiering skills. I am Airborne and Air Assault qualified. I'll be attending sapper school when I get back to garrison. So why would I reenlist to another branch just to repeat training and not be where I once was with more advanced training?


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Registered: February 22, 2007
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ARMY!!!
Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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Psh, I could careless what you say about the Army. At least...I have decided not to from this post forth. Razz


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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He can enlist in the Navy, Airforce or Corps if he wants to continue serving


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Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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But...but...my brother is in the Army. Frown


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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ah the coasties are far more useful then the army. if we want to drop a branch we need to drop the Army. increase the size of the coasties and the corps and roll from there (for example any one in the army in spec-ops can get a direct rank transfer to SEALs or Recon, rangers and airborne will still have to go to Marine basic but they'll have a shot at direct rank transfer. all skilled postions (doctors and the like) will have a shot for direct rank transfer


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Registered: May 07, 2003
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Poor Coast Guard...


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Registered: February 19, 2005
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Ahh yes the good ol' military choice. In my honest opinion all you really need is the Navy and Marines. Think about it. Naval Aviation flys far more than the Air Force, and the Army lets anyone in (you can have a drug trafficking felony and still join the Army). Theres a Marine poster that says "If we let everyone join the Marines, then it wouldnt be the Marines". To me the Air Force is too lazy and the army just plain sucks. GO NAVY!!

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Registered: May 07, 2003
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although the coast guard......navy on ritalin?


*sigh*

Apples and oranges my friend.

The coasties are probably the luckiest...they either get to work in tropical locations, or Detroit. Detroit seems like the worst location in the US, but they get to train people like me for watch standing though, and how could anyone pass that up? Wink


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Registered: February 06, 2007
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160th is one of the more deployed and combat experienced units in the US Army. Although they may not be ruckers, they are still very much in the fight. There is more to combat than shooting...

And as far as a basic marine being the same as a Ranger... I have my doubts. Ranger training includes more than infantryman skills, and weapons expertises. Rangers are also trained in infiltration, language, interrogation, all weather conditioning and more. Rangers also have to pick up Multiple MOSs and are typically master drivers.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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sure they get paid to shoot, but do they hit anything?

a pizza box (minimal marksmanship medal) for the Corps is equivlent of sharpshooter in the Army

and the Marines start out better trained than rangers. As far as basiclly trained infantry and advanced light infantry(ex:rangers) the Corps is the top of the world. and Force Recon can play right w/ the SEALs, Delts and Berets and not drop a step.

PS why is the 160th in with the shooters? crazy-ass rotorheads they may be but their still the transport for the men with the guns not the operators themselves


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The Army gets paid to shoot. Rangers, Deltas, Special Forces, 160th SOAR... All Army :-P


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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true...but army pays you better to get shot


and the Marines pay you to be the shooter instead of the poor cannon-fodder getting shot

PS I really do have much love for all our armed services but the chairforce and army are just such easy targets (won't even get in to navy jokes)


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I am in the Army. But I often joke that I joined the Army because the Air Force was closed.

I guess it all depends on what you are looking to achieve. But if I were to reenlist later... I would try to Air Force ;-P


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Registered: December 27, 2006
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Hm. My dad was in the navy, so... I'll vote for that one. Though I have the odd urge to back up Amp just because his post was so cool.


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Registered: October 19, 2005
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well, that's your choice. although the coast guard......navy on ritalin?

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Really though, I don't think any one branch is better than all of the rest. All five of them have their own distinct purposes and the way they work together seems to be working. (I know nothing about the military though, so if I'm completely wrong, don't jump down my throat about it.)


true...but army pays you better to get shot. Big Grin

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Army! Because that's where my brother is!


congrats! what does he do?


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Registered: October 28, 2005
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I have a cousin in the army, my uncle was in the Navy and my grandfather was a marine.

I still don't like any of them


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Registered: January 16, 2003
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Army! Because that's where my brother is!

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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Marine Corps, Marine Corps Kill, Kill, Kill!!!!!!!


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