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Registered: June 19, 2005
Posts: 50
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quote: Well, there are other problems, but it doesn't mean that the victims of the tsunami are undeserving of help from the regular person.
Yes, the tsunami victims do deserve our help but I think that these are matters that are most likely handled by the military or whoever with big money. Can you physically go there and help them? I don't think so.. not unless you are super rich and you can just go there in a plane in just less than 24 hours. All we can do (for us who are even using computers to chat with friends) is to PRAY for them. PRAY AND PRAY and HOPE. quote: Besides, not everybody is so deeply against things like premarital sex and cursing. Some of the problems you've named (such as cursing) are really not in the same league as a natural disaster and over thousands of deaths. "Get real?" Yeah, right.
Yeah, YOU would think so... BUT I CARE. I don't want my KIDS in the future to live in a place where bad influence rule. I don't want my kids to be in a place full of people who throw curse words at each other for no reason at all, or to just get laid with whomever they want. Hmm.. and also, WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT CURSING or PREMARITAL SEX.... and yes, GET REAL. How can YOU stop natural calamities? HOW? with a click of your fingers? NO! All we can do right now is to hope and pray AND donate if possible. The one thing that is MOST IMPORTANT is for TEENS to be good influences to each other starting with these cursing and premarital sex (which is obviously happening in areas where we live) Teens should get real. Why go and be heroes to something you are not even sure you can do? Can you breastfeed those poor babies? Are you physically going to go there and nurse them back to health? NO. There are so many we can do around our community, in school and in our neighborhoods... simple, by setting a good example. The tsunami victims do deserve help... but its much better if we leave them to the military or to UN organizations.
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Registered: May 31, 2005
Posts: 74
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Well, there are other problems, but it doesn't mean that the victims of the tsunami are undeserving of help from the regular person.
Besides, not everybody is so deeply against things like premarital sex and cursing. Some of the problems you've named (such as cursing) are really not in the same league as a natural disaster and over thousands of deaths. "Get real?" Yeah, right.
Oh and this IS a thread for helping the victims of the tsunami.
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Registered: June 19, 2005
Posts: 50
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Hmm.. seems to me like THERE'S MORE problems in this world than the victims of the tsunami. Get real... really. Maybe we should leave those tsunami victims to those who can REALLY send money.
Other problems we should tackle:
the practice of premarital sex reducing abortion and unwanted pregnancies teaching kids not to smoke or use drugs avoid using curse words eradication of pornography and child prostitution
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Registered: May 31, 2005
Posts: 74
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I'm not sure if the club is all that common in the US, but in my school (SAS) in Shanghai, we have the Habitat for Humanity club. About 2-3 times a year, we have organized trips to areas like Sri Lanka and Thailand and other southeast Asian countries to build houses and in a few weeks, another group organized a trip to rebuild a school in Sri Lanka, if I'm not mistaken. We're also selling "Raise the Roof" Habitat bracelets that benefit Tsunami relief organization. H4H braceletsI suppose that if you're in the US, fundraising would be some of the only things you could do because it's too far away, but anything would help ^^
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Registered: May 29, 2005
Posts: 2
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Hi...I'm kind of new here. First post, anyway I'll like to point out that not everybody in Asia was celebrating after 9/11. But all the same, I think ilovebush has a point, maybe we should focus our efforts on those closer to home. I'm not American myself, I live in South-east Asia, Singapore and I'll be going over to Aceh to help out at an orphanage but we still need funds. We've had bake sales and we're selling CDs with footage of the tsunami to raise funds. Maybe you guys can initiate such projects and donate the money to the countries affected. All the same, is great to know that people care! =)
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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The insurgents in Iraq are not Iraqis. Just look at the word that describes them - insurgents. That means they are foriegn forces attempting to distrupt.
The insurgnets are left over 'freedom fighters' from Afghanistan, members of the PLO, members of the Syrian Army, Jordan nationals, and Whahbies fro Saudi. They are not Iraqis. All we need to do to ensure peace is strengthen the boarders.
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Registered: June 06, 2004
Posts: 3373
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It took 13 years between our declaration of independence and our present constitution ratification. And we didn't calm down our opposition for 38 years. I think Iraq is progressing ahead of pace.
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Registered: May 07, 2005
Posts: 1213
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quote: Originally posted by iamastar: If most of the Iraqis are happy we are there, than why don't they show that on tv and also if they were so happy for us being there than why would we be there in the first place? Why would there also still be soldiers still getting killed if they liked us?
It may seem that the Iraqis are against us because of the attacks, but it is exactly the opposite. Those fighting Coalition forces are foreign Jihadists, like Al-Zarqawi, who was born in Jordan. They have teamed up with former Ba'athist Party members (Saddam's political party). But Zarqawi's men are being captured on a very regular basis thanks to information given by Iraqi civilians themselves.
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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quote: Originally posted by aceblog: I want to respond to the postings of ilovebush. I respect your point of view. However, the reason that people hate the US is because we have an arrogant leader who is merely interested in gaining wealth for himself and his friends. As a result, we use force against an already suffering and defenseless Iraq to get their oil. Of course the Iraqis aren't going to like us. How would you like it if someone attacked the U.S. and started exploiting us?
okay I'm not going to reply to you aceblog, because eveything you said has been said by many other people on here, and this board isnt about Bush, its about the tsunami. So I suggest going and putting your opinion on our fine president on the gov't boards, and not the tsunami ones. Thanks.
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Registered: May 06, 2005
Posts: 15
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I want to respond to the postings of ilovebush. I respect your point of view. However, the reason that people hate the US is because we have an arrogant leader who is merely interested in gaining wealth for himself and his friends. As a result, we use force against an already suffering and defenseless Iraq to get their oil. Of course the Iraqis aren't going to like us. How would you like it if someone attacked the U.S. and started exploiting us?
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Registered: December 25, 2004
Posts: 55
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well, i'm in a bible study group and i thought that it would be fun for our group to have a fundraiser to support the victims. i talked to my leader and we had a garage sale. it was lotsa fun and we raised over 400 dollars. We donated the money to a charity called MercyShips we will continue to raise money and our goal is to earn enough to buy three fishing boats. wish us luck!
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Registered: April 19, 2005
Posts: 1
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Seven Maryville High School students from Maryville, Tennessee are holding a concert featuring 5 local bands in order to raise money for tsunami relief. We are trying to raise the money to send overseas regarding children and the efforts to reconstruct their country and homes. We are begging for your support on May 7, 2005 at the school from 6:00pm-midnight! If you have any questions or want to help us, please contact us at the school at 865-982-1132 or e-mail Nikki at Roxybabe935@aol.com or Jennifer at SuperJFields@hotmail.com. We will greatly appreciate any services or your appearance at our concert!!!!
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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okay well, if you watch FOX News, then you will see that some Iraqis like us, but it you thank about it - most news stations never show the good things the US does. And in regard about why soliders are still getting killed- I didnt say that all Iraqis like us, there are always going to be people that dont like us, and try to kill our soliders. Thats going to happen anywhere we go...
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Registered: June 22, 2004
Posts: 2336
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If most of the Iraqis are happy we are there, than why don't they show that on tv and also if they were so happy for us being there than why would we be there in the first place? Why would there also still be soldiers still getting killed if they liked us?
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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I said that someone had to help South Asia (it might have been in a different baord). But these are the people that showed hatred the minute we got there, and still hate us now. And about Iraq (which I've gone over a hundred times), believe it or not, most Iraqis are happy we are over there. Yes, there are some terrorists that dont like freedom, but most of the people in Iraq are happy and thankful that we are over there. My cousin is still over there, and he has told me many stories about how Iraqis have been so nice and appreciative toward the soliders. Theres a difference between giving someone freedom that is nice and thankful for it, and helping someone that doesnt want it.
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Registered: June 22, 2004
Posts: 2336
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quote: Originally posted by ilovebush: I need to add something before I forget about it. (this is probably going to make me look like a horrible person and I'm sure I'll get ripped apart about it) but yes, I think that we should help South Asia rebuild after the tsunami. However, my History teacher brought up a good point the other day. These people were dancing in the streets after 9/11. They havent thanked us for anything we are doing, and they didnt even let us into certain parts of areas affected by the tsunami. Most of them hate us, and they are still going to hate us after we spend millions of dollars helping them.
I understand where you are coming from and I understand that that is your opinion but you have to realize that South Asian people aren't the only ones that don't like America or Americans. Do you think that the Iraqis wanted America to delcare war on Iraq? Yes, they didn't like us before the war, they don't like us during the war, and they wont like us after the war. Yet we went to war with them anyway (not that I agree with the war). Regardless of whether or not you like someone or something, you would still help them right? Wouldn't you want someone to help you if you were in that situation depsite their differences with you?
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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13911
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Registered: October 05, 2002
Posts: 399
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We just collect goods that they can use, like tioletries, little toys for the kids, stuff like that. We also did change drives. Most of the teachers offerred a 100 quiz grade for every dollar brought in so we raised a lot of money. This was donated to buy medical supplies for the victims.
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Registered: December 20, 2003
Posts: 210
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Where I live, a couple of people are selling Tsunami bracelets. They are five dollars each and they are actually really pretty (Blue and white tie-dye)
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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quote: Originally posted by iamastar: I think that it's cool that everyone is out there helping but long do you actually think that the support is going to last? Remember 9/11? The unity, patriotism, caringness, etc was there but it didn't last. The only time that we as humans get into that spirit is when something bad happens or even when the anniversary of an even such as 9/11.
thats true iamastar. I need to add something before I forget about it. (this is probably going to make me look like a horrible person and I'm sure I'll get ripped apart about it) but yes, I think that we should help South Asia rebuild after the tsunami. However, my History teacher brought up a good point the other day. These people were dancing in the streets after 9/11. They havent thanked us for anything we are doing, and they didnt even let us into certain parts of areas affected by the tsunami. Most of them hate us, and they are still going to hate us after we spend millions of dollars helping them. Now I understand that we are the "super power" of the world and thats what we do - help other people that cant help themselves. But, I live in FL, where we were hurt very badly by Hurricane Ivan, and some people are still living in FEMA trailers in other people's driveways. I think we should be helping our actual citizens, who would be thankful, then helping those who hate us. Now I'm sure I'll get ripped to shreads for saying that, but I had to voice my opinion.
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