“To tax the rich more is progressive taxation. It allows for the poor, who dont have as much money, to be relieved from heavy tax burdens so they can by the necessities of life. The rich already have large quantities of materialistic wealth and would be fine with less money. If you are a multi-billionare, wouldnt be alright if you were less of a multi-billionare to know that you taxes were going to help the poor?”
ok this is what I have to say about taxation cuts to the rich. Anyone who makes money in this country is considered rich. When the poor don’t have to pay taxes, who is getting the better end? Now I realize that some relief to the poor is good. Because some of them cant help the state they are in. whether they are too old or are disabled. That’s why some social policies are good. But that is not the government’s job. It is the job of charities, non-profit organizations and such like that to provide for poorer. that’s why it is good to give to charities and stuff like that. That’s why supporting churches is good because they help fund non-profit organizations that do provide for the poor.
“It was about the only substational evidence. The rest was disregarded almost immediately when Collin Powell called it "Bullsh*t" and when journalistic invesigators said everything about the evidence was "fishy."”
Sorry I don’t remember what this was about.
“Arnold went for Californian governer after being urged by Republicans in Californians to run. The Bush administratio was tired of losing California every election so they picked Arnold who had aspects like pro-choice and pro-gay rights which would sit well with Californians and would be a small price to pay for the fact that he would help give the state to the repubs in the 2004 elections.”
Right but having those beliefs (pro-choice, gay rights) does not make you conservative. That makes you a liberal. He may have other beliefs that coincide with republican beliefs which make him a republican. Therefore he is a liberal republican.
“And? The recession under the first three years of Bush was extremely bad as well, and it has only seen a slow pickup in the last year. Now you obvioulsy are going to stick to your theory, so I'll conform. Bill Clinton had to pleasure of having Reagans stable territory (even though Bush mad is somewhat muddy with his recession, and it did exist.) However, Reagan received the aid of having Carters pickup and previous presidents foundations.”
Actually Carter made the economy worse. The recession in 2001 was caused by Clinton’s spending policies. And Bush Sr. caused the the big job growth that occurred in the early years of Clinton.
”THEY ARE INVESTIGATING IT. I NEVER SAID IT WAS TRUE. And it very possibly could have come from the White House. Did you hear about the Rumsfeld comment?”
I may have heard Rumsfeld’s comment but I don’t know. Could you elaborate?
”Well of course there are very many positive aspects of liberalism. I am glad you are admitting it. And the War was you main justification. Clintons economy was not receiding, refer to the charts, they fell under Bush's watch. However, if you still honestly believe there is a liberal bias in the media, thats a pretty unbacked up fact. Look at this chart I found surfing aboutg 4 months ago:
http://www.journalism.org/resources/research/reports/campaign2000/lastlap/default.aspIt also is on your biased media forum, and you failed to respond to it. Some biased media.”
Tell me what are som positive aspects of liberalism? The economy was receding a few months before Clinton left office. The big blow fell when in 2001 but was a result of Clinton’s policies. Was that chart a research of FoxNews? Cause then I would believe that. I highly doubt the CNN had bad things to say about Gore.
”Damaged reputation indeed. Now, I dont listen to his show, so I'm not the one to judge on his points. However, why is Limbaugh irrefutable (when I heard him he was quite reffutable) and Michael Moore a fat liar?”
Who are you talking to? Ive heard many liberals calling Limbaugh a fat *******.
“ Michael Moore makes very good points also, has a high-grossing film out right now, and has become and icon outside of the US, so he must be doing something right. But Limbaugh, the drugged, child-insulting, brash, lying scum is still a the better of the two. I understand. Oh and one last thing. Rush Limbaugh is a chickenhawk wimp. He dodged fighting in Vietnam. His excuse? An undangerous cyst on his @$$.”
Read my Farenhiet Deception topic in Star Power. It has went unreplied maybe because the article in there is a bit long. But it will tell you that although moore uses facts he completely misguides people. He made it sound as though Bush met with taliban when really it was Clinton who met with the taliban. He made it sound as though the binladen family flew out before the September 13 easement in security when really they flew out after the easement and moore also says that the binLaden family was not questioned when really they questioned thirty of them. He makes it sound as though bush goes on vacation and does nothing when really he goes to his ranch and brings his work there. He met with tony blair there for crying out loud. When really carter was the one that hauled off every weekend to go on vacation. Read that topic it might help you understand my point.
“Wrong location AND wrong time. At this point, no mustard gas had been found. He also mentioned chemicals that had never been found, even now.”
They most certainly did find mustard gas.
“The liberals feel the goverment should take care of the most needy in society. That is needed so that people arent allowed to rot and slowly die off. People who are left rot live miserable lives and also may resort to crime. Although that has Communist aspects, so what? It helps everybody in the end. The goverment isnt just an overlord, it keeps the country moving so that everybody is on the train. “
but the liberals also believe in keeping everyone in minimum wage jobs and convincing those who are in minimum wage jobs that it is the republicans fault that they are in that position and that the democrats will help them. When really libs keep the poor in minimum wage jobs while libs make millions. Liberals also think they know how to run your life better than you do. Canada gives free healthcare. That is socialistic. It is not the government’s job to provide healthcare.
“This quote is on the strange side. Although there are Dems out there who probably have lied, there have been repubs who lied during and after Clitons watch. A debt repaid.”
What lies? May I ask? We don’t not report news like the biased media is doing now. The dems are willing to get their hands dirty to do it as well. Look what they did to poor jack ryan. They sued and sued for weeks to get his divorce records just so that they wouldn’t have another republican in the US senate while Kerry’s divorce records remains sealed. Republicans need to get their ***s up to scratch and start fighting back.
”Beh, thats inconsiderable, Rush is worse and has done has a terrible personality, especially his chickenhawk attitude.”
He doesn’t mislead people like moore has.
”OHHH! I hope the Dems plans arent making the wealthy have to go from buying Ferraris every 3 years to buy Maseratis. I'd pray THAT never.”
I don’t believe that most republicans have Ferraris.
“He has lied on plenty of things. Plenty. So many I could right a college exit exam tittled "The Lies of George W. Bush." Well, I am glad not all you watch is FOX news, but once again, there is little of a liberal bias in the media.”
You keep thinking that when there are sources like, associated press, , New York Times, CNN, CBS and much much more. Radio is the only conservative media save FOXNEWS.
“YEAH RIGHT! Ha! You honestly still believe that. Thats pretty funny. That poll was taken in Baghdad, Mosul, Basra, Karbala, Fallujah (they're part of Iraq,) and Najaf. I also think there might even be more. “
Right there without even knowing it, They are using the freedoms bush gave them. Nice way to repay him.
“Times do change. But the fact that Reagan supported Saddam durring his crimes against hummanity and did nothing of it is extremely reprhensible. No wait... It's down rigth wrong. Then, after that oil deal went bad, the alliance went down the drain. For a little piece of information, when Saddam was about to invade Kuwait, he asked the US on what they though of his actions. They said that his decisions in that area did not affect them and baisically told him they could do whatever they wanted. Then as Saddam's troops marched into Kuwait, the US changed there mind after pressure from foreign nations and led in an invasion in. When Saddam realized he was facing the hammer, he said he would stop his invasion if the US could hold negotiations with him. The US refused, and the war continued. I dont know what your NATO comparison has anything to do with this issue but for a piece of info the only countries capable of giving any real aid in the Coalition are Japan, England, Italy, and Ukraine, all of which populations, for the most part, do not support the war.
NEWSFLASH: Conservative founder of National Review announces he does not support the war.”
Yeah? What did Clinton do? All of those crimes against humanity were happening during his presidency too. He eve addressed Saddam as a problem in his 1998 State of the Union address and did nothing about it. just like the four or five terrorist atacks that occured during his presidency. he did nothing to stop those either. Provide me with proof that this happened. NATO. I was telling you that none of the countries in there support us. What is the point of having it?
”The Saudis are going to invest in Iraqi oil. This has nothing to do with forcing anybody or the US intervening. There are no more Iraqi oil companies so it will all be managed by Saudi controlled ones.”
But it is still their oil. If the Iraqi gov’t has a problem with this they can deal with it. In whatever way they want.
“If the CEO is in the US, when the product is sold, the CEO in the US makes a profit, simple as that. Even though the product is made in a foreign nation, the CEO in the US makes the biggest profit of it all.”
That doesn’t make it an American product. What does the label say? Made in China, Taiwan and Indonesia not America.
”For the record, slavery was outlawed by the time real colonization began to occur. Secondly, the colonization had no direct link to the goverment. The African colonies still ruled themselves, just under watch of the nations. The colonizations were more for profit. And if they did mistreat Africans, there have been the abuse scandals at Abu Gharib, the Soldiers who have confessed to killing Iraqi civillians, and the civillians killed by bombs. That leads to much hostillity as well. And Cliton went in to Somalia BY the UN's request. He, unlike Bush, realized it was a lost cause and left. “
That doesn’t mean that they didn’t mistreat them. They still had civilians over there that basically controlled the government. The Afrikaners were about ten percent of the total population of South Africa yet they were the only ones making the money, and keeping control of the government. You are going to base the actions of the entire US military on a bunch of goon soldiers?
“THE CHILDRENS CRUSADE! HA! That one is a joke in history! As you have said, not one made it to the holy land. Although Brits did go fight in the 1st and 2nd Crusades, the English did not fully admit there participation until the 3rd Crusade. The original fighters were who I said. It was started by Pope Urban.”
It was still considered a crusade. And like you said they did have fighters in the second and third crusades.
“When they originally went, yes, that was their objective. However, when they finally captured Jerusalem, the realized they couldnt just "boot" out the Muslims. They had to secure the area around so that an invasion wouldnt happen again. They also figuered this was a way to expand there territory and profit through the silk road, so they started creating Crusader States, which they vigorously deffended and declared three more Crusades in their name.”
That doesn’t mean they had a stable system and treated them right.
“There were no WMDs, but I'll get to that later. As for the Nukes, I dont understand what your going at. They dumped the plan in 1974. Repeat that to yourself. They were never able to produce Nukes. Do you get it now?”
I know they never had any nuke. They still had other WMDs. They were surprisingly advanced.
“I am not trying to come up with any better. The person who started making the ad hominem attacks was you. The first time I believe I ever insulted directly was you, and it was after aggravativing me for very long.”
Im not even going to reply to this. Let it die.
“You've yet to prove me wrong.”
Ditto.
”Hew had no WMDs. Period. There was plenty of proof saying he didnt. Inspections found nothing. Reports from various intelligence agencies around the globe and at home said zip. Heck, we havent found any in our searches in Iraq now. It was nonexistant.”
Vladimir Putin said himself that Iraq was close to either planning an attack on the US or that Saddam had a hand in 911. Don’t give me the crap that Putin is biased because he is one of the strongest critics against the war. How close was saddam to stealing on Russia’s missiles? They are already pointed at the US. Why not psh the blinking red button? WMDS have been found. I suppose Sarin Nerve Agent and Mustard Gas are just cute little displays?
“This isnt a competition for the best insults, and I was aggravated by you. You called me an idiot and a moron on the first post you made in response to mine. However, I have looked at your posts and you seem like a person with good intentions, so I am going to refrain from more insults and I urge you do the same.”
Right. I know I have been an ***. Read what I said in Talk to us. Im willing to turn over a new leaf. No one has yet to reply.
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