We all complain about newbies and how uneducated they are about the boards so I propose we change this with the YN Newbie Guide
which will include such core guidelines like "Lurk and Learn" and "Type in Plain English so we can understand what the heck your saying" "Don't practice necromancy" (that is bringing back long dead threads)

what say the rest of you?

I'd have to agree.

I just joined this site, and I believe that would help greatly. (:

This site is a bit confusing. ^^;

*Sigh*

Newbs are so hopeless...

All I have to say is if you are trying to post a something please dont use the following:u ur omg ttly brb gtg or any other of thoses things because everyone doesnt understand that but if you go on tagged or hi5 or any of those sites then you get to use those little u ur ttly omg and so forth

Yeah your fine but not all have been.

Its up with the rules of play and the legal disclaimer .

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"NEW USERS GUIDE".

Really? I never saw it...

I turned out ok though... Right?

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Originally posted by shytilwet:
Seems to me that newbies need a helping hand not denigration and humiliation if they make a mistake.
I think that a short "Newbies please read" would help everyone.
Another thought is if new people find this place to be hostile they won't return and we may lose some great people because of that.

Well there is a little something near the top of this page called "NEW USERS GUIDE". Clearly though that hasn't helped much.

Yeas I agree.

Seems to me that newbies need a helping hand not denigration and humiliation if they make a mistake.
I think that a short "Newbies please read" would help everyone.
Another thought is if new people find this place to be hostile they won't return and we may lose some great people because of that.

All n00bs should die. Oh, wait a minute...

I hadn't thought of it that way. That's actually a very good idea.

Also, I remembered too...on the sites I found these quizes on, the answers were always incredibly ovious. However, it was clever, because while you were reading the four options looking for the one that actually answered the question, you were reading the rules...

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I can think of a number of YNers who were too stubborn/foolish to realize they were being eaten alive for poor board etiquette and stuck around for months

They left eventually though. It's not perfect, but most of the time they leave.

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Originally posted by yogore:
Frankly, the people who can't survive on the boards leave. The ones who can, stay.

Not always. I can think of a number of YNers who were too stubborn/foolish to realize they were being eaten alive for poor board etiquette and stuck around for months, never learning a thing.

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You can take the quiz as many times as you want, but you have to pass before they let you access the site...

YN is meant to give access to everyone. A quiz wouldn't be practical for their goal. Frankly, the people who can't survive on the boards leave. The ones who can, stay.

I third the quiz idea. It's bound to prevent a few people from joining the site, but I'm not sure anyone who can't be bothered to answer a few quick questions about board etiquette is worth having on the site anyway.

I like the quiz idea.

I know on some sites, they have a mini quiz that you take instead of clicking on something that says "I've read the rules of play..."

You can take the quiz as many times as you want, but you have to pass before they let you access the site...

I like this idea. The rules could show on the screen when the get their name. Definatly a good idea.

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I think youth noise should give classes on how to debate.

Because most obveously don't understand it. :P

That's not YN's fault...

If you need help with debate, pick up a LSAT prep book...the part that prepares you for writing teaches you how to tear apart the structure of arguments...

Now with content...good luck with that...