This was brought to my attention earlier this evening by Bushsupporter...

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yes it's quite simple GLM is actually a puppet account of several YN peer mods, we all just use the same account to save people time and effort of making multiple mod accounts.

This means there is no accountability at all with GLM since several YN peer mods use it. How is youthNOISE able to monitor this MOD since several people control it. There are other MODs that belong to specific individuals, so why is there one communal MOD? Is this a way for handelers to escape control from youthNOISE staff?

I am also concerned because I do not know what the role of a MOD is and can find it posted no where on this site. I am afraid that since nobody else knows what MODs are supposed to do they themselves do not know what they are supposed to do.

GreenLanterMod has also been used as a tool to back up ampmasters requests everytime. Ampmaster requests something be done and within minute GLM does what was requested. I fear that MODs are now being used as a tool to support one's own arguement.

I was told to e-mail youthNOISE with such complaints however I have done that in the past only to recieve no feed back despite the fact it was requested. As a result, I will also now post my other concerns with youthNOISE.

Language on this site is to the point of offensive. I have been called a piece of shit and a shit stain, others have been called retards, fucking retards, and bitches (ie notsojoey and bushsupporter). This has reached the point of absurdity because almost every baord is checkered with profanity. Why is nothing done when many peopl eon this sight are under the age of 14? Does youthNOISE honestly think parents use this kind of language with their 14 year olds? No actions are ever taken to prevent profanity on this site until a request has been made at which point several people call you a baby or a bitch for making the request. When the request is finally made you are forced to provide proof of the request and defend yourself to a MOD before any action is taken.

MODs have also started posting on boards to introduce topics. Is this in the MOD handbook?

MODs, have been encouraged by other NOISEmakers to e-mail them to discuss 'plans'. Is this in the MOD handbook.

In general I am very upset with the fact that complaints are supposed to be e-mailed and not made public. Why is this? The complaints are in the proper place for all to see. Is this a bad thing?

Please respond as soon as possible. While I do not into for this board to spiral into a debate I am sure people will call me a baby and ask that I be kicked off for being a tyrant. I also expect GLM and Ampmaster to defend themselves however the goal of this complaint is to get an official youthNOISE response.

Please do not close this thread as youthNOISE has porven there is no other way to communicate with them.

Thanks,
Marine16

no problem Marine misunderstandings happen

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no what ampmaster is implying is that when he stands accused of something he's going to awnser those accusations

Fair enough. I guess i didn't really understand your original intent because it sounded to me like who were trying to encourge NOISEmakers not to complain to other about you - but I guess I was wrong. Sorry about that.

no what ampmaster is implying is that when he stands accused of something he's going to awnser those accusations

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You make accusations against me, question me your gonna get awnsers from me on that topic are we clear?

Is ampmaster implying that when there is problem with a MOD that MODs are encouraged to try to strong arm NOISEmakers from registering complaints?

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doubt that in all of youthNOISE members me and Bushsupporter are the only one's who feel that foul language is out of control along with the MODs.

Nope. You're pretty much it.

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
Listen. Niether of us want any opinions from anyone else on YN. This is the feedback board where we are voicing some quite serious concerns we have. Not to ampmaster, not to Hydrock, but to YN staff. That is who we are asking to hear from.

See your like a little fish, you want to get to the big sea to find answers... problem is that your in the Amazon river, and you got a hundred pirhanas to go through before you get there... then you get eaten by a shark if you make it.

You make accusations against me, question me your gonna get awnsers from me on that topic are we clear?

Listen. Niether of us want any opinions from anyone else on YN. This is the feedback board where we are voicing some quite serious concerns we have. Not to ampmaster, not to Hydrock, but to YN staff. That is who we are asking to hear from.

Marine I have explained several times that that was sarcasm

YNLiss, my issue of accountablity rests in the fact that ampmaster explained that GLM is handled by several people. How can you discuss anything with GLM is several people handle him?

As for this ussue being public, perhaps youthNOISE should ensure the boards aren't flooded as you, YNLissa, did earlier this morning. I doubt that in all of youthNOISE members me and Bushsupporter are the only one's who feel that foul language is out of control along with the MODs. This allows those people an outlet if they so chose which would be avoided if this complaint was sent by e-mail.

As for the filter, please direct whoever is in charge of it to mine and Bushsupporters complaints. Or, please give me contact information so I can register a complaint directly. I doubt whoever made that decision would be happy with the way language is being used.

In the future I will provide a link but I will not e-mail it because it is clear that e-mails do not get trough the filter.

I appreciate this issue being addressed.

Thank you for the links and wanted to let you know I have touched base with GLM about what has been going on.

While I was in that one thread, I also cleaned up the off-topic posts in there. I have moved the other to a hidden board until I get a chance to read more thoroughly.

http://boards.youthnoise.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2841058...?r=38910742#38910742
This is the board mentioned in my post. As I said, the posts have all been deleted but it is an interesting debate for you to read. So is this one: http://boards.youthnoise.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/395105/...?r=96810742#96810742

I will have someone check the box because I have not gotten any messages forwarded. It is a staff holiday so it may be tomorrow before I hear anything back. It is not a bad thing to air publicly but as Bushsupporter mentioned this can lead to flooding of the thread as done on this one.

Also when airing your complaints, if you include links to the threads you are speaking of it would be of tremendous help to me.

Maybe it's too early in the morning but I'm not quite sure what you mean about no
accountability.

We lost some of the originial peer mods and in process of getting new ones, it was decided that they could come up with their own moderator handle if they so desired. GLM is official peer moderator and I will meet with him to discuss the issues you have mentioned.

As for the filter, we all have our thoughts on this and this decision to lift it was not a decision made by me personally and one I cannot simply override.

If profanity has been made at you directly you should report it, whether it be here or emailing feedback and I know this takes extra time (and time is something that seems to be escaping my grasp lately) please include links so situations can be handled more efficiently.

Thanks.

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Its called spite.

Tee hee hee.

The more you complian about profanity the more people are going to use it, escpecially me. Its called spite.

BS for the second time to night here's the explantation

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if it was seven (and I doubt it was) they all said the exact same thing, which were as I said a call out to me directly which could and should be done through noisemail

have a good evening sir

I feel that people are flooding this thread so that valid concerns are not heard, like mine. So here it is again.

I agree with marine16 on all of the above concerns and have a few of my own. I also emailed YN and haven't recieved a response on the issue of profanity. I think this is an importnat issue that deserves some thought/action.

Earlier in the week on a board in peer-to-peer counsel there was some action that I feel is inappropriate and concerning. Ampmaster posted some points (the third one suggested that the thread was in the wrong board). GLM said that he agreed with ampmaster on point three. I asked if GLM only agreed with amp (who I beleived to be one in the same) on point three 4 times. Then GLM edited his post and I asked if he no longer agreed with amp on point three twice. GLM then deleted his post when he was called out and I assumed that he no longer agreed with amp on point three, and said as much, at which point I was edited rather than deleted as the posts before. Each post was posted only once until it was deleted at which point I reposted the missing post. These posts along with GLM's original post were deleted and I have no way of knowing if they are around in some obscure "deleted posts" site or just gone forever, to be denied by amp or the ever mysterious GLM. I find this behavior highly unreasonable and inappropriate. I don't even know if the Mods know that this should not be done.

I beleieve the peer-moderator issues and the profanity issues should be address quickly by YN staff to ensure that more of this behavior is not continued. Thank you for listening and I hope to hear back from staff soon. I know that YN staff will do the apprpriate thing.

Thanks again,
Bushsupporter

You really shouldn't worry about what people think of you.

I don't like such language, nor do I encourage it watch your slander sir