Dont you love it how ppl always say, "People who contemplate/commit suicide are selfish and/or just want attn?" Chances are, you're sitting at the computer, thinking, "shut up Collie! That is all they want!" Yet, I find it interesting how many ppl i know that may just want attn when they tease a person (resulting in suicide) in front of the "hot" or "popular" group of kids to make themselves look "cool". You dont think it's selfishness when a person is ignorant enough to really give a crap how hurtful his words and actions are toward the person he's teasing? Or, that he just doesnt want attn for himself, coming from that "cool" group that he's trying to fit into? I, for one, know that suicidal feelings and intentions can very well result and be mistaken of selfishness and craving for attn when it's caused by idiots who really do have that problem.
My overall point is is that suicidal feelings/intentions should never be mistaken for attn or selfishness without checking it out first. Most of the time, it's not that. Lets face it - it's the ignorant jerks out there today that crank the teen suicide death rates a little higher each year. Again, the ignorant jerks have a problem w/ selfishness and - should I say "lack"? - of attn they get.
quote: guess whose sittin' here with a knife in her hand!
Oh blah blah blah. If you're going to kill yourself, go ahead and do it, and remember: you only have one chance to get it right.
We do not come here to talk people out of killing themselves, and frankly, we don't care if you kill yourself, because very few of us believe that you are even considering it.
The bad thing about me is that I am a person who bottles up everything so if I was suicidal, I would just kill myself and not ask for help and no one will know. So I have to give you guys some props for having the guts to ask for help and not being so stubborn like me. I would like to help you all, really I would. However, I don't know everyone's story so I am just going to say this to everyone in general. You guys are great and I know there's a reason for you all to be living. I mean, I understand that you think people don't love you or don't care but heck, if I'm the only one then so be it, I love you and care! If your willing to talk, I am willing to listen. If you are willing to vent, I am willing to vent with you or not complain about you venting. If you just want silence and someone to be there for you, I am willing to be there. I'm here! So next time, you think or say no one loves you, cares, or understands you, just try to remember what I said. Certain people understand certain things, all you need to do is find the right person.
That's not peachy post and it's morning here so I don't know if it made any sense!
If you ever want to talk, you know where to find me!
I myself have had a friend commit suicide...it's not pretty, in a way yes, it is a selfish act and in a nother it's a way to excape things u cant handle....such as life. As for my friend....i pray for him...and i'm sorry i wasnt a great magnificent friend...i was the best i could be. He was alone in the world....adopted couldnt find his parents and was plainly alone. I miss him and yes, he might of excaped life...but, thats not his only problem any more.
Did anybody see The Hours? With Meryl Streep, Ed Harris, Claire Danes, and Nicole Kidman.
Nicole Kidman plays Virgina Wolf who, in the movie, kills herself because shes crazy and can't handle living in a world where she's depressing her husband, living in her stories, and making everybody else miserable. you'd really have to see the movie to understand why she commits suicide, or why Ed Harris' character commits suicide. I agree, suicide isn't the way out and that no one should have to even think about ending it all. but if you want the devils advocate, you might find yourslef siding with Virginia Wolf, and Ed Harris's character.
if u belive in God and jesus and stuff u may want 2 reconsider killing urself... commiting suicide is breaking one the 10 commandments: "thou shalt not murder"...if u go thro w/ killing urself u will not be forgiven and automatically go to HELL and burn 4 eternity...
But if u dont belive in God i guess nothings stopping u...just make sure its wut u really want...but i have the feeling its not wut anybody wants.
i think sucide is just a selfish act. ur thinking only about ur self. These days many people just care about them selves. if you really wanna killing ur self think about it first, please. you think no one loves you, you have to give love to get love. Start thinking about other people and helping them and think about how to make them feel content instead of yourself. Sucide is selfish. you wanna make noise. make a noise that people wanna hear. Think about the people u'll hurt because u decide to kill your self.
As i said before you need to give love to get love.
you know what scares me about this topic,here i am by my pc praying for smj to reply so that i know she is alright and y'all being mean.one thing you all probably don't understand is that the feeling inadequate is a part of the teen years.you all think you've perfect lives right.i pray you don't wake up one morning and don't feel like breathing b'cos then you would know that sometimes you just need to know that though the world is overpopulated everyone is precious. one more thing you all are doing what we complain grown up are doing.you are not being understanding or considerate of this girl's needs right now which is not pity but encouragement to live.
Dude, suicide is for wimps... get help. Wouldn't you feel really stupid if you commited suicide just as things were about to take a turn for the better?
You know... I agree with Desert here, which may sound really odd somehow. But yeah, okay, you have a knife in your hand while you're typing? Why does that make very little sense to me? I think you're just whining. If you really wanted to die, you would have already. And don't complain about how he, or anyone, is making you feel guilty, and you want to die YET AGAIN.. for the 100th time. You can make room for someone who will appreciate the life they breathe, and live on with the determination to survive. Sympathy-moocher.
you know what? i am not going to be judging you or even quote any religious books no matter that i am a strong believer in his words,I would give you a more realistic view. About a year ago i was in the same position as yourself and somehow i am still here today.you know why?because someone cared enough to help me through.I am 16 and I and only someone else know that i am suicidal or the fact that I have anorexia. The person you met in your church is someone you should try to keep your promise to because you just might begin to enjoy life when you give yourself time to live and sort out those issues that are at the root of the feeling you have. I am by no way a shrink,just someone out there who realises now that there is more to life than she onces thought.One of the most trying days in my life was during the last year in high school and i was a nervous wreck because i was piling up work and at the same time going throuh a rough home life because i thought noone cared but you know what though i am still vulnerable to some things i worked through enough to know where my strength lies and use that as a survival technique. I don't want to sound like a shrink but as someone who has been there and tried it when she was home alone it isn't worth it because in the long run you see things you would be glad you waited for,like for me graduating as valecdictorian made all the diference in the world. Hold on tight to enjoy life,smj!!
guess whose sittin' here with a knife in her hand! I feel guilty enough as is. I don't need you rubbing it in. Don't you realize that we know that we are more fortunate than most people? We just aren't happy-it makes us feel guilty. THANKS A LOT!
Well, I wont say much except that suicide is for losers. People, quit whining and suck it up. Think of the millions of sperm that had to fight just so you could be born. All the wonders of life, the beauty of nature, guns, everything that you have yet to do. What in life is so bad that it would make you want to end it. Life is so precious and it could end at any moment, so make the most of it. And think of all the pain suicide would cause to those who know you. Its just flat-out inconsiderate. Think of the little kids in Africa who are starving, or are forced to be soldiers. And than you lose a friemd or something and want to die. Its just not right... So lighten up and get out in the world and do something.
about the killing yourself as a sin- 1 Corinthians 6:20 says something like "You are not your own... honor God with your body." God has a plan for everyone the moment they are concieved and by killing yourself you would be stopping God's plan- a contradiction of his will which would be a sin. No one knows if you go to hell or not- it is up to Jesus and God, not us, but that is just what the Bible says.
I know that last post was from awile ago but praise the LORD! Someone does care. I care! Your parents care! Your minister cares! Jesus cares! God cares! Jesus doesn't want you to die like that, he died for YOU. Jesus wants you to live your life happily. You will be in my prayers. I hope everything works out. God bless you. Have stength! Read Psalm 91, part of it says: "If you make the Most High your dwelling- even the LORD , who is my refuge- then no harm will befall you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. " Give the Lord all your problems and sorrows, and he will give you strengh and help and love and I promise things will no longer be as bad. You will then be fighting a battle that you will win.
I went to church last night and a leader and I started talking about self-worth and somehow the subject jumped to suicide. He said something like, "well don't ever kill yourself over this stuff." I said, "well, I try not to..." and so it began. He found out that I was planning on trying pot this friday night and I also told him about my suicide attempts. He knows how I feel about the suicide. I just found out that about a year ago he ended up in a hospital because he tried to take his own life(I'm the only student from church that he's told about that) He's promised not to tell my parents as long as I don't attempt suicide or smoke weed until he can see and talk to me again...which will be two weeks....he made me promise before I left church. I just hope that I don't break that promise. But my parents leave in about 3 days with my siblings for a 2 week vacation. Doesn't that sound tempting? No one would be around to save me. It's the perfect time....yet...now I know that someone cares
But I'm just really confused right now and part of me wants to tell him in two weeks that last night I was just having a bad night and am ok now.....but I don't know
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