Haha good one.

Ive talked to God too, he said he hates gays and maya, but he also said ilovebush sucks at life and just doesnt get it, Jesus said he's mad because ilove bush worships the cross he was murdered on.

True story.


or i need to get on some schizo meds.

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well actually yogore it is. If you go and read what bushsupporter said right before that, it is clear cut. God said that only those that go to heaven believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross to save our sins...sounds pretty clear cut to me.

It's not as simple as that. Nothing is.

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Originally posted by ampmaster:
A german pope is cool but I was hopeing the black dude would get the popedom whatever he's old he'll kick off soon and we'll be back here again debating

Dude I think that the "black dude's" name was Cardinal Arinze.

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Wait hold on a sec, you've talked to God? Has he/she/it/whatever told you that personally? I'm amazed.

Umm yeah, I've talked to God. I do it all the time..and yes, he has told me that. Thats part of my faith: having a personal, intimate relationship with my Lord and Savior.

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God said that only those that go to heaven believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross to save our sins...sounds pretty clear cut to me.

Wait hold on a sec, you've talked to God? Has he/she/it/whatever told you that personally? I'm amazed.

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He was Hitler's youth. All german children had to join Hitler's Youth, and you know that.

Yes, but I weally weally wanted an Afwican or Latino Pope...*grumbles*

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well actually yogore it is. If you go and read what bushsupporter said right before that, it is clear cut. God said that only those that go to heaven believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross to save our sins...sounds pretty clear cut to me.

Morons, morons, morons. In your religion, your God said that. Now, that is your belief. Accept the fact that there are many other beliefs.

Have you ever been in Heaven? No, I assume not. Thus, you have no idea if it even exists.

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Do you think Pope Benedict's traditionalist take on issues will further alienate the West and Europe from Catholicism's influence?

Yes. Catholicism needs to accept reality or face its own slow, painful, laughable death.

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
Christians beleive that only those who beleive that Christ is the Messiah and sacrificed himself to save Mankind will go to heaven. If there are "Christians" who think differently then they are not Christians. If this is "hating other religions" then so be it, but to me it seems like a reason to strive for the conversion of people rather than shun them.

Thanks for telling me I'm not a Christian, ***hole. As if you have any right to say what is right and what is wrong. You're not God. Just because I don't think all non-Christians are going to hell doesn't mean I'm not a Christian. It means I'm a logical thinker. Don't tell me I don't believe in God just because I believe something about Christianity different than you do.

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If there are "Christians" who think differently then they are not Christians.

Nothing is that simple. It's not that clear cut.

well actually yogore it is. If you go and read what bushsupporter said right before that, it is clear cut. God said that only those that go to heaven believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross to save our sins...sounds pretty clear cut to me.

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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Why not an Hispanic pope? African? Why a once-Hitler supporter?

He was Hitler's youth. All german children had to join Hitler's Youth, and you know that.

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hey are not a country in control of an army and people, they are mearly a religious organization, this gives them more leway in opposing and supporting things.

not really. Expecially in the third world, people live off the lifeblood of the pope. They follow his coattails like a lost dog.

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If there are "Christians" who think differently then they are not Christians.

Nothing is that simple. It's not that clear cut.

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I think that they should stick to thier ideas.

Everything needs to revolutionize with the time. The church no longer thinks that the earth is the center of the universe like it used to, so why not change on other things?

The Church should not accept things like abortion or birth control. I am not against certain methods of birth control, the ones that don't kill fertilized eggs, but the church has religious reasons to be against it, fine. They also have religious reasons to oppose war and while I consider their views a bit "pie in the sky" I think that they should stick to thier ideas. They are not a country in control of an army and people, they are mearly a religious organization, this gives them more leway in opposing and supporting things.

I do not think that the Church should be in the business of pandering to people and state leaders like politicians do to voters and other state leaders. It is wrong. They need to stick to what they beleive in and not change it for a PC and secular world.

Christians beleive that only those who beleive that Christ is the Messiah and sacrificed himself to save Mankind will go to heaven. If there are "Christians" who think differently then they are not Christians. If this is "hating other religions" then so be it, but to me it seems like a reason to strive for the conversion of people rather than shun them.

While I am not Catholic I can see that a "conservative hardliner" is going to be good for the Church.

As much as I dislike the new pope, I agree with Clpo. he was young, forgive him. he didn't hurt anyone. He probably didn't know it was wrong with all the propaganda spawned by Hitler.

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Why not an Hispanic pope? African? Why a once-Hitler supporter?

Please, people. During the time that Ratzinger was a youth, kids of a certain age were forced into the Hitler Junge program. They had no say in the latter part of the war.

On the radion news this was ALL they were talking about today. It was really kind of corny too, with everyone sayiing how brilliant Ratzinger is, and how he is absolutely SO perfect in every way. My guess is they would have said this about whoever was elected to be the New Pope, even if they weren't the ABSOLUTELY FANTASTICAL "Benedict the 16th".

Okay, I was misaken about the whole Nazi thing. Thanks for catching me. Still it would be nice if the new pope would clear things up with the Jewish community. My father and grandparents were certainly offended and they aren't really religious.

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YES, the church needs a traditionalist, no more of the liberal, accepting of all views on everything garbage.

So are you against birth control? Are you saying that the Catholic church should be against other religions? Should the new pope be anti-semitic and anti-Islamic? Please clarify your "less acceptance is good" remark for me.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what kind of pope he is. now i'm not really religious but i stay catholic cause of my grandma and this guys got some pretty big shoes to fill.

Why not an Hispanic pope? African? Why a once-Hitler supporter?

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the world hates Christianity

Catholicism.

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YES, the church needs a traditionalist, no more of the liberal,

Because the church is so liberal?

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Time to clean up the scandals and get back to what the church is supposed to do, worship our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Worshipping has little to do with liberal vs. conservative.

GASP

You mean a child in a Nazi occupied country was a member of the young hitler club? I can't beleive it.

Come on, I would be more suprised if he wasn't. This is just another example of how much the world hates Christianity. People are already calling in the mudslingers to defame the new Pontiff and make him seem like a Facist or something. Anyone the College would have picked would have been an appropriate choice, but I like this one, Benedict XVI.

YES, the church needs a traditionalist, no more of the liberal, accepting of all views on everything garbage. Time to clean up the scandals and get back to what the church is supposed to do, worship our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.