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Why not? I think he deserves a darwin award... or at least an honorable mention

I know it's dumb, but kids apparently aren't responsible for their actions. Same as kids can't be executed.

Why not? I think he deserves a darwin award... or at least an honorable mention

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He deserves a Darwin Award.

Kids can't be awarded Darwin Awards.

Celtic, when a cop feels threatened or feels that other people are being threatened they have the right to shoot to kill. They're not going to risk their lives walking up to this kid asking if his gun is real or not. It's not murder, it's self defense.

I agree with Hydrok completely. I do not feel sorry for that boy at all. He deserves a Darwin Award.

it's not murder... it's self defense celtic... if someone raises a gun at you, you shoot, thats all you can do... also notice that the boy didn't die on the spot, so at least the Swat guy attempted to keep him alive.

I just don't get it how murder is justified only when it advantages one side.

He's talking about cop shows where they shoot hollywood style

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Some think well why didn't he shoot the boy in the arm or leg. Those people watch to much T.V.

What? Where do you get off making those kinds of random comparisons?

oh man thats bull shit we have people who really need to be meroralized likt the guys dying in Iraq or maybe our recent Medal of honor winners? but not this punk

And then just to spite me they are going to memorialize this kid... like he was some kind of fuckin fallen hero... killed over a misunderstanding... HOW DO PEOPLE SUPPORT THIS SHIT?

SWAT teams are trained to neutralize the threat, thats what they did... remember back a few months there was that guy in Brooklyn who was reaching for his ID and he got shot 32 times... that was SWAT doing their job... They told the guy to lie on the ground and spread his arms and legs, not "show me your ID" and when you reach for something and the SWAT doesn't know what it is, you got 15 people all feeling threatened all at the same time thus 32 bullets.

But I also lay blame on the principal, or whoever it was that decided to call the police, and the police, who decided to call the SWAT team... if they thought it was a play gun why didn't they go knock the little kid out? After the SWAT team is in the game changes, the weapon is already assumed to be deadly, and the game is on.

I am with the SWAT team on this one.

I heard on the radio about it. The boy painted the tip of the gun, the part that tells you it's a play gun, black to match the rest of the gun.

From a distance a play gun, unless you see the organe tip, some of them look real also.

Some think well why didn't he shoot the boy in the arm or leg. Those people watch to much T.V.

some study showed that disabling shots were dangerous for armed criminals even if an expert sniper puts a hot between an armed crimals headlights his body will spasm causing his fists to clench and causing him to pull the trigger this is called a "beyond the grave" and has resulted in several deaths

And Ice bulletproof armor isn't bullet proof and even if it was you can't put it every where or you'd end up making human tanks

Wtf?

SWAT is professionally trained and paid to handle these situations as best as possible, the kid isn't, and was crazed and terrified. The SWAT members should have been wearing bullet-proof armor, and there were more of them, it would be pretty easy for them to disable him without getting mortally wounded. Shooting an adult criminal threatening to kill a hostage is one thing...but a cornered middleschool student? I know they should assume it's a real gun, but surely they've had incidents like this happen before, and with a 15 year old kid, don't you think they should have suspected it even more? Shooting him was not the only option.



Celtic alluded to this, but I think it is more a commentary on how American society places too much importance on reacting with force/violence very quickly, and even more surprisingly, when we're unsure of something.

I was thinking more like shooting an arm or leg. But I suppose if the person has enough stamina, they could still shoot even when in that much pain. I doubt a 15 year old could, though, which is why I asked.

Very rare is the event that some one can shoot a weapon out of someone's hand and those that try as generally considered morons but people think you can because of hollywood and it's warm-fuzzy cop movies

Nah, I kind of expected it. I've been watching too many warm and fuzzy cop movies. Damn Hollywood...

Would you hate me if I told you that you were being naive?

Aren't SWAT teams supposed to shoot to disable, or am I being naive?

I agree same as columbine despite what Micheal moore says