We Have Met The Enemy and It's Us: A Political Rant on Fox News, Idiot Republicans, Pitiful Democrats, Supreme Court, Homosexuals, TSA, Planned Parenthood and Every One Else I Missed.

I'm turning this day in history into a book, because I have never been so frustrated with America as a nation as I was today. Absolutely inexcusable was the only words I could seem to grasp, it left me in awe at how incredibly ignorant Americans, not just as a people, but, all on their own they really are.

I work in a shop where part of my job is to watch the news all day long, please, pity me. Being that I am an Airman in the worlds greatest Air Force we watch Fox News, it’s the only thing conservative enough to watch so that one of my Lieutenants wont have a liberal morals induced epileptic seizure. I like my job, I really do, but today was horrid, absolutely down right disturbing to see what the media and Americans have done to society.

I’m going to start with Fox News, if that’s what you can fucking call it. I prefer “Fox: we take your mind and turn it into an omelet”. You will notice as I go through everything I talk about is going to stem from Fox News, because unfortunately that’s where I got all this information to begin with. First off their anchors are not people that are educated, they are not people that could even write a news story. That’s not their job, they are there to have an opinion, and that is not objective reporting, which any good reporter will tell you is the key to success in journalism. The most appalling things to me is that on “Fox and Friends” one of them gets up, walks over to the weather screen and pretends to know what they are talking about. It finally occurred to me how they do it too; they watch national weather on the 8’s on TWC. It’s extraordinary how all of them are pretending to be meteorologists, simply because they all take a crack at it. So how about we nix the News part and insert Fox daytime talk show hosted by Sally?

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He was being sarcastic, he's not very good at it...

Not at all

He was being sarcastic, he's not very good at it...

He also took what I said out of context... and I dont think it was on purpose, he just lacks the ability to understand what I was trying to say.

How are democrats spineless Kidd, you make the generalization that all democrats follow along the same lines and fall in rank in file with the rest of the party. That's not the case, democrats follow the people from whom which they serve. The party of the people. It's ok to have difference of opinion within a party on certain issues. Not every democrat is for the death penalty, for pro-choice*(to a certain degree), and against the war in Iraq.

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Originally posted by Hydrok:

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Originally posted by Kidd:

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Originally posted by Hydrok:
Anti-death penalty: Democrat
Pro-Choice: Democrat
Against the Iraq war: Democrat

Indeed. The democrats are spineless center-to-right wingers or just plain apathetic fools

Right on kidd... although I'm positive you were joking.

Nope while we don't agree on most politics im sure. I hate the democratic party. im not a democrat. i have never voted for a democrat. and as a true left-winger i never would.

so. no. haha. i wasn't joking.
The democrats are spineless center-to-right wingers or just plain apathetic fools.

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Originally posted by Kidd:

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Originally posted by Hydrok:
Anti-death penalty: Democrat
Pro-Choice: Democrat
Against the Iraq war: Democrat

Indeed. The democrats are spineless center-to-right wingers or just plain apathetic fools

Right on kidd... although I'm positive you were joking.

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Originally posted by Hydrok:
Anti-death penalty: Democrat
Pro-Choice: Democrat
Against the Iraq war: Democrat

Indeed. The democrats are spineless center-to-right wingers or just plain apathetic fools

that he is

I dont care what you have to say, John Stewart is Fuckin funny!!

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If you think that because other news organizations are extreme, that it is a license to counter that extremism with more extremism, then you are quite simply, ignorant.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So, you think left-wing media outlets are okay, but not conservative ones? Typical double-standard. Conspicuously absent from your whining about Fox News is your lack of whining about far more biased outlets like NYT or CNN.

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Also I have to ask what your opinion is of John Stewart?

He's a comedian, and while a decent one, is nothing more. But it's a sad indication of hte state of affairs - and an indication of how dumbed-down society is becoming - when many consider a comedy show to be a legitimate source of news.

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And you really need to explain to me what a main stream republican is. I'm a republican, yet I certainly dont like being in debt up to my eyeballs as a country, I dont like big government

Agreed on those issues, but you'd don't seem to be aware of the difference between a "Republican" versus a "Consevative". A true conservative favors smaller government, economic responsibility, etc. Republicans are generally conservative to varying degrees, but some are quite liberal. Here in New Jersey, most Republicans are far more liberal, economically and socially, than most Democrats in, say, the south. Pay attention to the ideology, not the party label.

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And none of that is an accurate assesment. And your doing the same thing by classifying news agencies.

Your point is as irrelevant as one can get. Sure, proably about 90-95% of media outlets take the liberal position (i.e. believe the same things one those three issues you mentioned); the media is particularly on social issues. But the issue here is the broader notion of what they discuss or report - and, ust as importantly, what they do not. What pisses liberals off about Fox is that they will publish facts and discuss points-of-view that the so-called "mainstream" media (NY Times, LA Times, CNN, CBS, etc.) do not not. Worse still, the mainstream/liberal media had for several decades a near monopoly on the news business, save for some specialty publications that you probably wouldn't find in a newspaper machine. Prior to Fox News (and the rise of conservative radio in the early 90's), if you were pro-death penalty, against gun control, pro-life, etc., you couldn't get your point-of-view published in the want ads, let alone as an editorial in some newspapers. And if you wanted to criticize opinion being presented as news, forget it. And that's still true to some extent today.

Unfortunately, it seems difficult and impractical for a single news outlet to reliably cover multiple viewpoints, which is why I suggested that Fox News become a solely conservative outlet to counter the liberal drivel coming from the other 95%+ of the media. Viewers/readers can get more in-depth coverage and gain a more complete understanding of issues if they can get full details from two (or more) outlets of different points-of-view rather than the half-assed coverage most outlets seem to produce.

Perhaps another way of putting it is that the liberal P-O-V gets a free pass, so why not do the same for conservative points-of-view as well? People will (at least eventually) be exposed to both over time and can gain a more complete understanding of issues.

I didn't know that. How ironic.

You know it's proven that people that watch John Stewart and read the Onion actually have a higher IQ than those who watch O'Reilly

Fox? Centrist? That's pretty funny, NuShoes. I get my news from the Onion, like all educated people do.

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Also I have to ask what your opinion is of John Stewart?

Hilarious and brilliant. He may poke fun at certain polticians, but the guy knows his facts.

If you think that because other news organizations are extreme, that it is a license to counter that extremism with more extremism, then you are quite simply, ignorant. What do you think the problem with the nation is right now? Left is too far left, and the right is not even the traditional right anymore. I have to ask if your blind, deaf, and dumb... Your posts simply beg the question.

Also I have to ask what your opinion is of John Stewart? And you really need to explain to me what a main stream republican is. I'm a republican, yet I certainly dont like being in debt up to my eyeballs as a country, I dont like big government, yet all the government has done in the last 8 years is grown beyond any previous precident minus the forming of the 1st continental congress.

But here's the deal the American public sees three things right now as political indicators for who is and isn't a good legislator, judge, or executive, and this is the largest problem of them all:

Death Penalty
Abortion
The War in Iraq/Afghanistan/Terror

Depending on your views of those three things people will classify a person, now I told you I was against big government and a supersized debt for fat America. But at the same time I am anti-death penalty, pro-choice, but only because the supreme court is trying to legislate, and I was initially for the war in afghanistan, against Iraq, and am all for killing terrorists.

People read that and say:

Anti-death penalty: Democrat
Pro-Choice: Democrat
Against the Iraq war: Democrat

And none of that is an accurate assesment. And your doing the same thing by classifying news agencies.

One other thing to point out:

You must realize, however, that the New York Times itself largely sets the agenda of the print media, and much if not nearly all of the electronic news media. And it's far-left brethren like the LA Times, Associated Press, and the Washington Post help set the agenda for most of the rest. More than a few well-known news anchors - liberal and conservative alike - say that the first thing they do in the morning is pick up the New York Times. And those who don't say it by name often say they read the "local paper".

In any case, I figured out way before the Jayson Blair thing that their reporting was specious if not outright false or politically-motivated. I've would even catch them lying here and there, misreporting something I knew about. Also, my mother once worked as, I think, an editor for the New York Times in the 70s. She said it was almost as much a rag then. Considering that she is a pretty hardcore anti-Bush liberal, that says a lot.

Fox, at least, permits other points-of-view, not just those that CNN, CBS, etc. want the public to see (i.e. liberal ones). Sure, there are could be a little less time devoted to commentary/analysis, but at least Fox doesn't disguise political leanings as news; you KNOW where the anchors stand, and you get both sides.

Frankly, Fox News is too centrist; the public would be better served is they were as right-wing as CNN, CBS, ABC, etc. are left-wing, as it would balance the scales a bit.

Faux News, you mean?

Before you whine about Fox, consider that the icons of liberalism, such as the New York Times and CNN, are far worse. You don't have to look very far in either one to see bogus, slanted, or politically-motivated "reporting". Jayson Blair just took things a little too far, that's all; otherwise, he was perfectly suited to the Times - which is why they promoted him.

You will have a tough time finding news that is perfect or absolutely fair and balanced. But the last place to look is the likes of the New York/LA Times or CNN.