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Picture of SoftballLauren
Registered: May 27, 2003
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If Iran moved beyond research and actually began running the machines, it could force American intelligence agencies to revise their estimates of how long it would take for Iran to build an atom bomb -- an event they now put somewhere between 2010 and 2015, according to the report.


So what do you guys think?
I mean, if we possibly attack and go into iran like we did iraq, things could get bad. At least, here they could if Iran in fact has nuclear weapons. They wouldnt be afraid to attack the US, at all.

supposively Iran has a nuclear bomb that dosent destroy land, but kills the electrons in a large area. If they were to launch this at us, cars wouldnt be able to start, seeing as they need electricity to start. No radios, phones, television, No way of getting news or communicating with anybody.Food would rot because there would be no cooling, seeing as it is in fact run by electricity.Complete Chaos.

And of course everyone remembers the aftermath of hurricane katrina. Remember how all these houses were being abandoned, and so everyone was stealing and terrorizing all the new orleans area? Thats pretty much how it would be here, Except all over the nation.

Theres also rumors that the US government Is setting up concentration camps already, for those people that would be tempted to run through and steal from everyones homes during this time of chaos.

O_O

But anyways.
What do you guys think?
Think this is all BS, or think that this is a serious problem?
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Registered: October 22, 2002
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but Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons capability yet, so how would they have an EMP?



There are non-nuclear EMP generators that use essentially an electromagnetic coil wrapped around a very large, powerful eplosive charge. I tend to doubt Iran has this capability without nuclear capability but it certainly is possible.

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And Israel is a fair weather ally... backstabbers of the largest sort.


Sort of like France, Germany, Spain ... most of the world come to think of it.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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This just in:

Iran ceases cooperation with IAEC Investigators

with the obvious disdain for UN demands and mandates is war with Iran closer than we think? will the UN actually fight in this one?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: April 24, 2005
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i remember watching a documentary of those events, im not sure of how true this is but here is the story:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/03/287545.html


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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there should have been an "accident" involving some C4 and whoever was in charge of Israel at that point as well as a few of the ships that particpated in the attack "mysteriously" sinking


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Yes they did, openly and militarily... however LBJ decided that it was an "accident" and no further investigation or retaliation was allowed.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Didn't Israel attack the USS Liberty at some point?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Let me see if I can find the info on open source first, and I'll post links if I can find it:

Ok I found it faster than I thought I would:

http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/2652.html

http://www.jonathanpollard.org/2004/122304a.htm

http://www.forward.com/main/article.php?id=2507

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/11/fi-looks-at...an-buildup/index.php

That should suffice


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Registered: December 14, 2004
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And Israel is a fair weather ally... backstabbers of the largest sort.


In what sense?


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Registered: August 14, 2004
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And Israel is a fair weather ally... backstabbers of the largest sort.


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Lauren, I dont mean to be mean... but Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons capability yet, so how would they have an EMP?

And like Amp said, there are no ICBM's in Iran, they have the capability to hit Israel... thats about the only reason we even care about Iran... but I digress... Iran is not a nuclear threat at this point in time so dont worry.


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Registered: April 24, 2006
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Originally posted by ladymadonna:
i think that if we confront iran like we have iraq, things will take a dramatic turn for the worse. in the bible, it talks about iran being a harsh military aggressor in the final days. i can just hope this is not true.i cant tell you, im worried.

me too, i agree
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I do think we need to take Iran as a serious threat. While I don't think they have nukes that can reach us quite yet, we do need to be careful for the sake of our allies, especially, in this case, Israel.


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Registered: May 01, 2006
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i think that if we confront iran like we have iraq, things will take a dramatic turn for the worse. in the bible, it talks about iran being a harsh military aggressor in the final days. i can just hope this is not true.i cant tell you, im worried.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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supposively Iran has a nuclear bomb that dosent destroy land, but kills the electrons in a large area. If they were to launch this at us, cars wouldnt be able to start


That is called an EMP or electromagneticpulse and is a natural result of all nuclear weapons
The US plan for such and attack is codenamed "Lightswitch" and is only effective on industrialized nations. It calls for a nuclear strike on the airspace above the EMP target. pretty simple in the end.

As to Iran if it does have a nuclear weapon it probally has very few if not only one of these weapons. But we do not have to worry about it's use do you know why? they Iranians do not have intercontnantal ballistic missles(ICBMs) like the US has nor do they have long range supersonic nuclear bombers again like the US does. Now they could attempt to sneak it across the border but for varying reasons which I don't feel like listing.

The main area of concerns is mass concentrations of troops in forgien nations (Iraq for example) but I find this unlikely because the US would respond by turning Iran in to a radioactive parking lot


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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