The ACLU likes to dismantle and undermine the USA. dont they?

The ACLU, likes to dismantle and undermine the USA. dont they?

They're not supposed to because they discriminate based on sexual orientation.

I don't believe that religion was ever mentioned while I was a Boy Scout, with the exception of periodic Godly references when one accidentally hit one's thumb with a mallet while hammering in tent stakes.

And about the school property thing...does that only hold for the actual Boy Scouts? When I was a Cub Scout, our meetings were held almost exclusively at my elementary school. However, when I became a Boy Scout, our meetings were in a little shack on the property of the local equestrian center. The smell wasn't too bad, but you definitely had to look where you were doing your push-ups. Of course, that wasn't the only reason I quit.

Thanks for the compliment, Worth. It came to me in a dream...well, no, but I thought it'd be funny.

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I've known Eagle Scouts that were asked about their religious habits in their interview for the award and they've simply stated they really do not have a specific God they have faith in, but they do believe in a higher being.

*raises hand*
My whole support for Deist principles, and my disdain for organized religion, are well known on this site. I've never had an issue with it in the Scouts. Agnosticism and atheism is also widely accepted and supported as long as you've got a real reason about it. The reverence in Scouting is about having strong principles, and to have an active development of your understanding of your religion/faith.

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Boy scouts is a messed up organization. It's not allowed to have meetings on school properties, but that's not because of religion.

I'd like to hear why the Scouts are a "messed up organization." And as for school property, that's in Massechusets maybe, however we're still free to do so here in NJ and much of the country, and have been doing so for a century now.

The ACLU is attempting to dismantle a staple organization of American society for a few minor ideological dissagreements. They're acting extremely irrationally, which I'm starting to expect from them.

You guys have been overlooking something very important. The actual time period the oath was introduced, and its meaning in the oath today.

First, the scout oath and the scout law have been slightly changed a few times, if at all. The original scout oath was made back before even the first World War. God was a big part the founder, Lord Baden Powel (sp?), of what the youth of that day needed. He included it as a part of the oath because he felt they needed religion in their lives to follow more appropriate, civil acts and behaviors. (These boys I am talking about are teens that were usually homeless and theives, among other things back when the Boy Scouts was started.)

Secondly, the meaning of God today has way more than one meaning. And the organization really does not care what God we're talking about! For goodness sake, I've known Eagle Scouts that were asked about their religious habits in their interview for the award and they've simply stated they really do not have a specific God they have faith in, but they do believe in a higher being.

If you ask me, ACLU hasn't done it's research into the matter. As celtic stated, it's just an excuse to sue somebody they might get some money out of. And it is stupid to me. (Hey, does anybody know how much the suit is for?)

Boy scouts is a messed up organization. It's not allowed to have meetings on school properties, but that's not because of religion. I think the ACLU has a point, yet God is used so frequently now a days, it really is silly to go after the boyscouts for using god when so many other things, such as the pledge, does as well.

Agree with everyone.

Though the boy scouts here are usually Christian.

And I love your new avatar, clpo. I called you clop a few times when I first joined!

And why hasn't the ACLU sued the United States of America (as a whole) for the same thing? Personally, I extremely disliked my years (well, year) as a boy scout, but one word in the scout oath is nothing to get all fired up about, especially, as amp pointed out, a word that can mean many things.

Paranoid as hell. It's an excuse to sue someone.

I can't believe such an anti-religion freak as me said that.

It'll go nowhere. For AP Hill has been the Jamboree site for decades and decades, it's tradition, and it certainly isn't infringing on the seperation of church and state.

And if they do, well, you're going to have one angry Eagle Scout out for blood here.