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Registered: February 27, 2003
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quote: Most people don't speak multiple languages. Most people haven't read Sartre in french. Most people haven't read Sartre at all. Most people haven't even heard of Sartre. Most people are idiots; daft and stupid. If it gives you contentment to lower your standards to those of "most people", please continue to do so. I however find contentment in seeing the truths of greater human knowledge(seeing things with the limited understanding of the ignorant masses gives me heartburn).
Darn, I missed this bit in my last post, sorry people. Now, FML, like I said, yelling isn't going to help. Calm down. We are not "lowering our standards", have either of us said that we view the Ten Commandments as completely Christian? No.
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: February 27, 2003
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quote: Originally posted by clpo13:
What part of "I know that" don't you understand?
Apparently the whole part clpo.... quote: Learn how to spell Horse-idiot.
Well that's nice FML but I'm afraid insulting me isn't going to help your defense, there now you happy?  And panterayall, I truely don't care if there is God all over our monuments in D.C., doesn't make it right, like clpo said. Plus, the guy who did the doors had Moses on them because he was a "great law giver" not for his religious significance.
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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You know that and I know that, but do the unwashed masses know it?
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 03, 2005
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well then how can something that was created before christianity even existed be christian. you said jews dont have any monuments wouldn't the ten commandments be a monument to jewish people as well as christians?
peace and equality
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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What part of "I know that" don't you understand?
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 03, 2005
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then ten commandments were created before christianity was even a religion if im not mistaken, it was before christ was born.
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Registered: September 28, 2001
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quote: Most people don't speak multiple languages. Most people haven't read Sartre in french. Most people haven't read Sartre at all. Most people haven't even heard of Sartre. Most people are idiots; daft and styouupid. If it gives you contentment to lower your standards to those of "most people", please continue to do so. I however find contentment in seeing the truths of greater human knowledge(seeing things with the limited understanding of the ignorant masses gives me heartburn).
you're totally overreacting to what clpo said. all he said was that the ten commandments were christian, and then you yelled at him for saying that and so he clarified why he had said that. most of the the people i know view the ten commandments as primarily christian, and i can understand why, because they are posted in just about every catholic church that i've ever been in.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Well of course most people are idiots, FML. I'd say more on why, but it's 6 am and I still have not gone to bed.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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quote: defence
Learn how to spell Horse-idiot. quote: MOST people see the Ten Commandments as Christian.
Most people don't speak multiple languages. Most people haven't read Sartre in french. Most people haven't read Sartre at all. Most people haven't even heard of Sartre. Most people are idiots; daft and stupid. If it gives you contentment to lower your standards to those of "most people", please continue to do so. I however find contentment in seeing the truths of greater human knowledge(seeing things with the limited understanding of the ignorant masses gives me heartburn). Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: have you ever been to D.C.? there is god all voer the place, there is god all over every monument.
Exactly the way it shouldn't be. This may be getting old to hear but the US is not a Christian nation. Is it called the United States of God? The Christian Confederacy? No! Of course it isn't! Because it's not a Christian country! If you want to have a government that's wholly Christian, move to the Vatican. I'm sure they'll be glad to have you.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 03, 2005
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----The doors of the Supreme Court courtroom don't literally have the "Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion" — the lower portions of the two doors are engraved with a symbolic depiction, two tablets bearing only the Roman numerals I through V and VI through X. As discussed in the next item, these symbols can represent something other than the Ten Commandments. --- what the hell is does that mean? TWO stone tablets with the numbers 1-10 on them, what else is it going to mean, dont tell me the bill of rights because thats bull****. the ten commandments were written on STONE tablets as portrayed in the mural. The guy isnt going to write ten commandments on the tablets. ----Congress has indeed retained paid (Christian) chaplains since 1789 (not 1777) to open sessions with prayer and to provide spiritual guidance to members and their staffs upon request. This practice was strongly opposed by James Madison at its inception.---- -----The constitutional propriety of Congressional chaplains has been challenged in an August 2002 lawsuit filed in federal district court by Michael A. Newdow (the California man who won a federal appellate court decision against the use of the phrase "under God" in public school-led recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance). The case is still pending.----- the case isnt still pending that ****er lost, he was using his daughter who had no problem with saying the pledge as his tool to push his agenda. have you ever been to D.C.? there is god all voer the place, there is god all over every monument.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
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Well well well, I see this thread has been quite busy while I wasn't watching. Even FML has come back, though I notice you haven't come up with a good defence for what I posted earlier. Oh, and stop craming what clpo said down his throat, he's right. MOST people see the Ten Commandments as Christian. Clpo13, you're brilliant, I think I've told you that before but I'm telling you again. I agree with everything you've posted so far.  quote: 1. As you walk up the steps to the Capitol Building, which houses the Supreme Court, you can see the following:
Near the top of the building are a row of the world's "law givers". Each one is facing the middle. Inside the middle, facing forward, with a full frontal view, is Moses and the Ten Commandments!
2. As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door. As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall right above where the Supreme Court judges sit a display of the Ten Commandments!
3.There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington, D.C.
James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our Constitution" made the following statement "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."
Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said, "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians...not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ".
Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher...whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.
Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law...an oligarchy...the rule of few over many...
The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said, "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers."
Sorry dear but most of that just doesn't work, see this link to find out why http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/capital.asp .Research stuff before you post it will you....
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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Tonight at a school function I told some of my friends(who are religion majors and consequently not christian or jewish) what you guys were arguing in regards to the ten commandments. They had a good laugh at your expense. Thanks for the memories. Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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quote: You're an idiot.
Judeo-Christian. quote: You should be ashamed of yourself. Your teachers should be ashamed of themselves.
If you had shame you would take poison.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Look, if you want to call me an idiot, fine, but please, call me that when I actually do something idiotic. I'm just saying what I've seen in life. If you go up to pretty much any person and say "Are the Ten Commandments Jewish or Christian?" and, unless they're a Jew, they'll say Christian. So, am I still an idiot for the stupidity of the masses?
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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quote: The Ten Commandments are commonly viewed as Christian.
That is what you said. So I will rephrase; By idiots like you. My mother is Jewish and would be very amused by your characterization. You're telling me that the ten commandments, which were revealed to Moses while he was leading the Jews "Exodus" from slavery are commonly viewed as christian? LOL. You're an idiot. Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6058
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quote: By idiots like you. My mother is Jewish and would be very amused by your characterization. You're telling me that the ten commandments, which were revealed to Moses while he was leading the Jews "Exodus" from slavery is thought of as primarily christian? LOL. You're an idiot.
Did I say I think that? No. Idiot. quote: what people dont seem to realize is that jews beleive in god as well as christians
Wow! Really?
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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quote: We the students don't say it. The school has it go on during the announcements but not even all the teachers say it
So do you dislike America? Or do you simply hold alliegance to a country other than the U.S.? I could understand abstaining from saying under god, but abstaining from pledging your alleigance to the United States all together is sickening. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your teachers should be ashamed of themselves. Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: April 23, 2005
Posts: 457
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quote: What kind of ramshackle "educational institution" do you attend in which the Pledge of Aleigance isn't said?
We the students don't say it. The school has it go on during the announcements but not even all the teachers say it
Don't see Star Wars, it sucks the intelligence out of you
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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quote: and because its "FULL of christians" and the U.S. is a democracy, the majority rules.
That's not a democracy. That's what South Africa had. The US has a democratic "equality".
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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