It's that kind of attitude that gets the world no where. I mean yeah, ultimately a petition or a rally would be better then this. Why don't you set one up?

I don't disagree, right here, right now, I can do nothing to change that law. But I am glad to know that you do think it is something to be upset about.

Indeed it doesn't. I'm not saying we should throw our hands up and say "Oh, since it's the law, it's all right then." Anything but. However, what are we going to do about it? How can a few horrified Western teenagers challenge the accepted laws of an entire Muslim nation, especially when this nation is on our President's hit list of "evil" countries?

It ain't gonna happen. We needn't accept it, but we also shouldn't waste our time griping about it. The West has their own outdated justice system to worry about.

Just becuase it's the law, doesn't mean it's right. I mean, there are many laws that I think probably are bad, and I'm sure there's atleast one you don't agree with. Are you saying we shouldn't view something as bad just b/c it's the legally accepted thing?

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Originally posted by clpo13:
In Islam, however, it's the woman's fault for being raped. Sex outside of marriage is considered adultery (much as it is in the Old Testament of the Bible), and adultery is always the woman's fault (much as in the Old Testament). And murder, no matter what kind, is punishable by death. No questions asked.

It may not seem fair to us Westerners, but that's how it's been in Islam for hundreds of years.

Exactly.

In Islam, however, it's the woman's fault for being raped. Sex outside of marriage is considered adultery (much as it is in the Old Testament of the Bible), and adultery is always the woman's fault (much as in the Old Testament). And murder, no matter what kind, is punishable by death. No questions asked.

It may not seem fair to us Westerners, but that's how it's been in Islam for hundreds of years.

As a victim of sexual abuse and having taken it to court where he was tried and found guilty and sentenced with prison... I can say with all honesty, she acted in self defense and it was a totally justified reaction. She was afraid, she didn't know what to do. Being in that situation isn't something where you think about a logical action. You are afraid and you just want to get out.

You say she shouldn't have killed him, but what are you offering as an alternative? Do you honestly advocate that she just let herself be raped? Is that what you would do? It is easy for you to say that you would, but you can't know because you've never dealt with it.


I'll be 17 in exactly 1 hr!!!

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Major brownie points to you, Amp.

thank you

and revan it's not murder when it's in self defense

There is a difference between assault and sexual assualt. Assault is just a regular physical attack with or without a weapon with the intent to cause bodily harm. Sexual assault is an attack that involves anything of a sexual nature with or without a weapon with the intent to cause bodily harm. You being attacked by someone with a knife: Assault. You being attacked by someone who pulls your pants down and cuts up your genitals with a knife and rapes you: Sexual Assault.

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And so did the guy that attacked her. He got exactly what he deserved.

Sexual assault.

I never said that he didn't, but she still got what she deserved.

And it would actually be assualt with a deadly weapon, seeing as how there would be a knife involved.

Sympathy. It's a wonderful thing.

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She knowingly broke the law, and knowing that she was probably going to be executed, she did it anyway. She got what she deserved.

And so did the guy that attacked her. He got exactly what he deserved.

Major brownie points to you, Amp.

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Perhaps it is, but that would no longer be rape, and it would be considered assault.

Sexual assault.

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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Darthrevan, I hope you expirience the sheer bliss of rape with a knife and a broken beer bottle twisted hundreds of times on your dick, to then have boiling oil poured over dick and anus, and then alcohol. It's really really orgasmic.

Perhaps it is, but that would no longer be rape, and it would be considered assault.

Darthrevan, I hope you expirience the sheer bliss of rape with a knife and a broken beer bottle twisted hundreds of times on your dick, to then have boiling oil poured over dick and anus, and then alcohol. It's really really orgasmic.

I would have killed the guy as well. Then again, women are worth jack shit in that country, so I would have killed the guy and ran to another country. Good post, Jenos.

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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:
Kill yourself, Darthrevan.

If a man tried to rape me, I would not hestitate stab him as well. Any man that abuses a woman (or vice versa) in any way, deserves to be shot. I applaude that girl. She fought back, rather than sit down and take it like that little coward, Darthrevan.

She knowingly broke the law, and knowing that she was probably going to be executed, she did it anyway. She got what she deserved.

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Kill yourself, Darthrevan.

did you see his profile? What a fruit.

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Originally posted by Darthrevan:

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Originally posted by Maya:

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Originally posted by Darthrevan:
Good, we don't need anymore murderers in this world.

you are joking right?

Of course not, we aren't monkeys, and we have laws.

what the fuck is wrong with you, seriously? He was going to RAPE her. She was fucking defending herself. For all she knew he might of killed her afterwards. What do you think she should have done? sit back and watch?

if I saw a guy rape a girl or (this happens) a gal tried to rape me bet your ass I'd kill'em

Kill yourself, Darthrevan.

If a man tried to rape me, I would not hestitate stab him as well. Any man that abuses a woman (or vice versa) in any way, deserves to be shot. I applaude that girl. She fought back, rather than sit down and take it like that little coward, Darthrevan.

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Originally posted by Maya:

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Originally posted by Darthrevan:
Good, we don't need anymore murderers in this world.

you are joking right?

Of course not, we aren't monkeys, and we have laws.

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Originally posted by Darthrevan:
Good, we don't need anymore murderers in this world.

you are joking right?