Maybe this is old news but its still something out there and kicking.. the 9/11 conspiracy theory. The most common one is that 9/11 attack was known or planned by the United States. Seems a little far-fetched, neh? Well take a look at this (if you haven't already) .. a video called 'Loose Change' all about the theory. You can see it by going to Loosechange.org .. If it doesn't turn you skeptic it will atleast make you think.

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You stole my link you jerk. I posted that on the last page.

I curse you to a thousand years of agony.

well it needed a refresh dammit!

oh well considering how life's been going at least a millenium of agony might be intresting

You stole my link you jerk. I posted that on the last page.

I curse you to a thousand years of agony.

One of the few times I agreed with every single thing he said...

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

the final word on "loose change" and the 9-11 Conspiracy courtesy of maddox

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I think artemis meant that the government doesn't kill its own citizens (and employees).

That we know of. And I don't think Al Qaeda is a government group.

Americans still do acts of terrorism that affect other countries. One that could have been bad was the 1996 bombings at the Atlanta Olympics, and the fact that we have American Terrorism-- even if 9/11 greatly overshadows it-- still reflects poorly on our countries in views of other countries: They think us too violent.

It could be argued that abortion is the destruction of Americans-- in fact, a lot of Bla women are/were discouraged by groups against getting abortions because it was thought to be a way of reducing the number of Black people in the country. Abortion is legal, so it could be thought that the government allows the killing of its posterity and could easily stop the mass numbers by making it legal. However, that is an area full of so many shades of gray, that it's hard to figure out where to draw the line and what it should, if it even can, be classified as.

I think artemis meant that the government doesn't kill its own citizens (and employees).

But those are all smaller groups. When you talk about 9/11, that is something not only about people in one city, but the people from all over the country and the world. Even we don't plan things like that for our own country.

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Americans are evil at times, but we don't plan the destruction of ourselves.

Except we do. Any cause of murder between Americans that's first degree was planned destruction of Americans. Just look at American Terrorism on American Soil: The Unibomber, The Oklahoma City Bombing, any American serial killer, that's (semi) thought out destruction of Americans by Americans.

Americans are evil at times, but we don't plan the destruction of ourselves.

i highly doubt we planned it but hey u never no.... crazier things have happened

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its too bad shes right...do the research...dont be afraid to believe the unbelievable

9-11 was caused by Osama and the 19 hijackers. We are currently at war with Islamic terror groups, look around. Look at the Terror attacks on Britain and Russia, and other countries by Islamic groups. Are these attacks all fake to? Is half the world in one big conspiracy to make us fear terrorism? Once you stop focusing on details of 9-11 and look at the conspiracy theory you begin to see all the problems that the conspiracy theories have. Look at all the other terrorist attacks, were they all staged? If so then shouldn’t the countries staging the attacks have really strong ties?
Also the more research is done the less credibility the conspiracy has. More and more of the evidence has been found to be fabricated. More and more explanations for the oddities have been found. I’m going to lay out just a few of the problems of the theory
1. The planes had to have hit the towers
a. Video shows very clearly that planes hit the towers. These planes could not have been military for several reasons. We don’t have any unmanned planes that are that big and no air force crew would kill them selves to attack their own country they would get nothing out of it. If there were military planes they would have been picked up by radar and everyone would have known about it. However no military planes if that type were tracked flying over the city. Also the passenger planes that disappeared had to have gone somewhere. The airliners would have had no reason to be part of the conspiracy so they must have flown into the towers. And once again their path could be tracked on radar. Lastly if the planes did not fly into the towers were did the planes and people go?
b. Planes could have brought the towers down. It has been proven that the planes would have been enough to bring the towers down. The explosion and fire would have created enough heat all the way through that level of the building to weaken the supports enough that the weigh of the building would be too much for the weakened supports causing the building to collapse. Also Buildings are designed to collapse straight down. If they did not they would crash into other building which in a city could cause a domino effect destroying large parts of the city. So buildings are designed to collapse straight down.
c. A plane could have hit the pentagon. The building was designed to minimize the impact of an attack so it is natural that most of the plane would have disincarnated. Also large numbers of people have said that they saw the plane. There is also the same problem concerning the plane were did it go and where did the passengers go the airliner would have no reason to go along with the conspiracy.
The conspiracy theory has sever workability issues and Al Qaeda is clearly our enemy and the enemy of the civilized world. The conspiracy would have to have to at least included people in the government, military, airlines. The most questionable out of these is the airlines and the military. The airlines lost billions of dollars and the industry as a whole was severely crippled. On top of all that they also have to put with all the new security. Why would the airliners do that to themselves? The idea that they would be part of a conspiracy that would devastate them makes no sense. What about the military. The military is a volunteer group which means that everyone who serves in the military wants to be there because they want to protect their country. Why would they be agreeable to attacking the very country that they swore to protect?
Oh and what organizations support loose change? Well many of the supporters of the 9-11 truth movement are Islamic groups that are seeking to cover up the fact that 9-11 happened because of Islamic extremists. It makes Islam look bad when their people commit the biggest terror attack on the US so they have pored support into the idea that 9-11 was an inside Job.
Lastly here is a link to a peace by popular Mechanics in which they co over the problems with the 9-11 conspiracy theory
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

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the official story is full of soo many holes that HAVE NOT BEEN PROVEN WRONG

Do you know why, though? Answer: no one knows exactly what happened. The perpetrators are all dead, and most of the witnesses don't know exactly what they saw. It's hard to keep track of what's happening when debris and bodies are raining down on you.

Any event like this is going to have major holes. It's simply not possible to get all the data. What conspiracy theorists do, however, is fill in the holes with speculation. Speculation that can be semi-verified, yes, but still speculation. They don't know any more than the 9/11 Commission. They merely think they know more.

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because that would look suspicious

And blowing up your own buildings isn't?

i agree the idea of it is ludicrous but when you look at facts and claims the official story is full of soo many holes that HAVE NOT BEEN PROVEN WRONG thats all im sayin and that is hard to refute. and the fact i dont write properly in some random post doesnt say anything about my intelligence ...well you seem to be devoted to this page with your 8,000+ posts so i dont feel like gettin into this any further - no hard feelings hopefully and have a good life

No, I'm not from New York. I can actually spell and form coherent sentences. And I never said it bothered me, I simply responded to it, you're the one complaining about it.

And conspiracy theorists are never a threat when there is no conspiracy. The whole thing is so full of holes it's just laughable. Alright, sure, I understand that the government may not be telling the complete truth, they never do. But to claim that they were behind the whole thing is just ludicrous.

wow that really bothers you just like my passive agressive post...that make u look like a puss....and of course you ser. doubt it im not surprised...and they might not have killed them because that would look suspicious like they had something to hide so instead they just tore them to pieces on fox news like they always do when somebody threatens them...theres your answer so case not closed...passive agressive ha ur def. not from ny

Okay, one, why couldn't you just say that in one post instead of three? It makes you look retarded. Two, I seriously doubt the government didn't know it existed. Three, your post is passive aggressive, which is, in a way, a form of insult in the way you address me.

And the government performs assassinations all the time, they wouldn't have any difficulty killing off people they knew could break open a conspiracy if there really was one.

OH AND WHEN DID I INSULT YOU HERE???---wow that was your big point that was supposed to convince me that im wrong...lol...people like you make me believe more and more......ok first of all you say why wouldn't they just kill Avery and his friends...what?? yea a man makes a video and releases it and then gets killed that's not weird at all...in fact it would probably make the video more popular once word got around the creator was killed....the government isn't that stupid....and the video was out for awhile before it was ever on the Internet....

and back to tha point..you still havent responded to my point why would you kill them it would not make sense 1)it would be too diffficult with how many people they know who would get the story out and
2) they had the video out for awhile before it was online even the gov't had no idea it existed - people would get it in their mailboxes and it became huge because noone could answer the questions then it was put online and became nationwide

first of all its pretty difficult to prove anything from this situation which is a main reason there is a debate right now..both sides can not prove either way. for conspiracy theorists its a shit load harder since you have people in the media against them who get their information from the same people who according to the ct would have orchestrated the whole thing, people who dont do research and think theyre crazy and of course the gov't.