"Bad, very bad argument. The only oil supplier in the world is NOT the Middle East."

Iraq and Kuwait alone sit on 40% of the earth's oil and i believe that Saudi Arabia is the biggest holder of oil. dont know how much they hold individually.

"Yeah, Bush hid under his sheets with his undies pooped and decided to do 'nuttin 'bout 'Sama"

waht are you talking about? its only a matter of time before we have osama.

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the poil is not just for us yog. its for the entire world.

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Bad, very bad argument. The only oil supplier in the world is NOT the Middle East.

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it isnt the war on Osama.

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Yeah, Bush hid under his sheets with his undies pooped and decided to do 'nuttin 'bout 'Sama

"They've threatened uswith them. Iraq did not."

An dsaddam has been a threat ever since he came in to power he's threaened to get them, even has had them, invaded Kuwait, six months from creating an A-Bomb and his weapons are in Syria now.

"It should start with Osama, seeing as he is the reason we are in this war."

no. he was the one who started the initial incident. it isnt the war on Osama.

"And we are never going to completely wipe out terrorism. If this war goes on until all terrorism stops, we will be in war forever."

they aid the same thing about Russia.

"There aren't supposed to be conditions for listening to the UN. And those tyranical evil countries could say "We don't have to listen to the UN because we aren't evil"."


you forgot one very important thing i said. they are under the law.

"And we should be under international law not to make WMD. Countries won't be so scared of us if we didn't have the power to destroy their country in one bombing."

ya and if we stop the rest of the world will stop. this thining is what will be the destruction of our country and every good thing that exists on it. just because we dont have them doesnt mean the NK wil just not have them! we have them simply BECAUSE there are countries out there like NK and Iran.

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we all asid the same avbout Iraq! how do you know that they REALLY have WMDs?

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They've threatened uswith them. Iraq did not.

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THIS is delusional. this is not hte war on osama as many of you think. his is the war on TERROR which encompasses everytrhing from the terrorists themselves and teh TOTALITARIAN REGIMES THAT SUPPORT THEM.

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It should start with Osama, seeing as he is the reason we are in this war. And we are never going to completely wipe out terrorism. If this war goes on until all terrorism stops, we will be in war forever.

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because one, we arent under international law to not make WMDS and two we are not a tyrannical evil country.

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There aren't supposed to be conditions for listening to the UN. And those tyranical evil countries could say "We don't have to listen to the UN because we aren't evil". And we should be under international law not to make WMD. Countries won't be so scared of us if we didn't have the power to destroy their country in one bombing.

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cut him some slack!

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No.

its one for all...its not really upto america to decide some countrys responsiblity...tmrw some country might seed america and then bomb america seeing its past, then will u ppl approve of it?????

"And the truth about wanting the oil comes out."

the poil is not just for us yog. its for the entire world.

"But everyone knows that N. Korea has WMD and has had them for a while. We've known that there were WMD there longer than we thought Iraq had them."

does anyone but me see this pattern? we all asid the same avbout Iraq! how do you know that they REALLY have WMDs? we had negotiations with iraq. we all said "we know saddam has WMDs" we went to war. No Wmds in Iraq. "oh this is all bush's fault! why did he klie to us? impeach him! impeach him!"
where are we on this pattern now? we have negotiations with NK. we all say, "we know kim jong has WMDs." how long willi take to fulfill the next part of teh pattern?

" Because, why iraq? Why now? iraqqwasn't involved with Sept. 11, which was the reason for going on this war against terrorism."

THIS is delusional. this is not hte war on osama as many of you think. his is the war on TERROR which encompasses everytrhing from the terrorists themselves and teh TOTALITARIAN REGIMES THAT SUPPORT THEM.

"Other countries have WMD for sure, yet we target a country who just happens to have a large supply of oil. Not to mention, many of our allies wouldn't go to war, and the UN never gave us permission."


did you nowt hear bush's axis of evil state of teh union? Iraqa Iran and NK. its on the list! ok? he just needs time to secure iraq before he goes after Iran or NK. cut him some slack!

"Why do we expect other nations to listen to the UN if we won't?[/QUOTE]"

because one, we arent under international law to not make WMDS and two we are not a tyrannical evil country.

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yes a tyrannical dictator sitting on that much oil is not htreat. a dictator who has the means to kill his civilians has the means to acquire if nor acquired WMDs

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And the truth about wanting the oil comes out.

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because, as we have done with Iraq, there are multi nation talks occurin right now. its called diplomacy. hopefully it wont take fourteen years as it did with iraq.

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But everyone knows that N. Korea has WMD and has had them for a while. We've known that there were WMD there longer than we thought Iraq had them.

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explain why this is soooooooooo delusional?

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Because, why iraq? Why now? iraqqwasn't involved with Sept. 11, which was the reason for going on this war against terrorism. Other countries have WMD for sure, yet we target a country who just happens to have a large supply of oil. Not to mention, many of our allies wouldn't go to war, and the UN never gave us permission.
Why do we expect other nations to listen to the UN if we won't?

"There is still sex slavery in this nation, and nobody does anything about it. The hypocracy makes me want to put a sharp object in my jugular."

if this isnt hte most random thing ive ever heard...

"Have you ever seen a picture of Iraq? Nations like that are a threat to nobody but themselves."

yes a tyrannical dictator sitting on that much oil is not htreat. a dictator who has the means to kill his civilians has the means to acquire if nor acquired WMDs.

"Di-plo-ma-cy...what is this word, ALMSIVI? I have never seen it in action...does it have something to do with disregarding the UN, using scare tactics on other nations, intimidation, and war?"

explain. remember im affected.


"Except the fact that we are a rouge state.[/QUOTE]"

just like an extreme leftist. blame the US call them the problem. it is us that are the problem. i see it now.

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they knew what was knwon then as the truth...and yet they didnt act on it. it is truly sickening.

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There is still sex slavery in this nation, and nobody does anything about it. The hypocracy makes me want to put a sharp object in my jugular.

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"And if you think Iraq was about saving the world, I think you are too delusional to even bother with."

explain why this is soooooooooo delusional?

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Have you ever seen a picture of Iraq? Nations like that are a threat to nobody but themselves.

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its called diplomacy

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Di-plo-ma-cy...what is this word, ALMSIVI? I have never seen it in action...does it have something to do with disregarding the UN, using scare tactics on other nations, intimidation, and war?

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Iraq was not only submitting ot the US he was submitting to the UN isnt that what you guys want? international accountability?

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Except the fact that we are a rouge state.

"I don't think you understand that we can't expect every nation to submitto the US. If a communist nation was in power, you wouldn't want them invading us to spread communism."

i dont want every nation to submit to the US. Iraq was not only submitting ot the US he was submitting to the UN isnt that what you guys want? international accountability?

"And if you think Iraq was about saving the world, I think you are too delusional to even bother with."

explain why this is soooooooooo delusional?

"But yet, they wouldn't support war with Iraq."

they knew what was knwon then as the truth...and yet they didnt act on it. it is truly sickening.

"Perhaps they didn't think it was a good idea. North Korea has WOMD, why aren't we invading them? "

because, as we have done with Iraq, there are multi nation talks occurin right now. its called diplomacy. hopefully it wont take fourteen years as it did with iraq.

I don't think you understand that we can't expect every nation to submitto the US. If a communist nation was in power, you wouldn't want them invading us to spread communism.

And if you think Iraq was about saving the world, I think you are too delusional to even bother with.

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ya after every intel agency in the world told them he had WMDS even their own intel said the like.

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But yet, they wouldn't support war with Iraq. Perhaps they didn't think it was a good idea. North Korea has WOMD, why aren't we invading them?

"Being a superpower doesn't make us the world police. The UN doesn't go out making trouble without proof. That is how we differ form the UN, not that they are yellow and dictator-coddling."

ya after every intel agency in the world told them he had WMDS even their own intel said the like.

"Yes, because we care about the rest of the world. Going to Iraq had nothing to do with feeling threatened personally from them, it was about saving the world."


youve got it down pretty well.

"That makes you as bad as a terrorist. Just because they won't listen to the U.S. doesn't mean we should nuke them.[/QUOTE]"

i jest yogore.

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your with them or your not. your with us or your not. there is no grey area.

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There's always grey area.

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we are allowed because we are the supepower the nation that stands up the little guy, the oppressed, those whom which the UN turns their yellow, dictator-coddling backs on.

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Being a superpower doesn't make us the world police. The UN doesn't go out making trouble without proof. That is how we differ form the UN, not that they are yellow and dictator-coddling.

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because one, we are a benevolent nation who takes care of this world.

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Yes, because we care about the rest of the world. Going to Iraq had nothing to do with feeling threatened personally from them, it was about saving the world. </sarcasm>
If Bush hadn't needed a scapegoat for September 11, we never would have attacked Iraq.

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they will not listen to us with the face of diplomacy then the hell with them i say. NUKE EM!

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That makes you as bad as a terrorist. Just because they won't listen to the U.S. doesn't mean we should nuke them.

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Originally posted by yogore:
If we're allowed to keep them, why can't they? That's their point. They don't see the US as the good guys. What is to make them think that once we are the only ones with nucear weapons we won't attack them?

America is using the do as I saynot as I do model. It's not working.

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because one, we are a benevolent nation who takes care of this world. two, they are a terrorist regime that will give their knowledge of WMDS if not the actual thing and threearent they also under law not to have them?
no kidding they dont see us as the good guys. we are the opposite of everything they are. kind loving, mericful, freedom loving Americans...
because if we could we could blow up any nation on the Earth. beucase if we realy wanted to, we would right this very instant. we are allowed because we are the supepower the nation that stands up the little guy, the oppressed, those whom which the UN turns their yellow, dictator-coddling backs on.
we ahve them because of thae fact that their are nations outr there like NKorea and IRan. this silly notion that if we get rid of our nukes they wil to is quite frafetched and highly improbable.
the notion that terrorists are sensible and will listen is quite ludicrous. they dont care who you are. to them the world is black and white. you are either with thtem or your not. i see the same worldview. your with them or your not. your with us or your not. there is no grey area.
they will not listen to us with the face of diplomacy then the hell with them i say. NUKE EM!

If we're allowed to keep them, why can't they? That's their point. They don't see the US as the good guys. What is to make them think that once we are the only ones with nucear weapons we won't attack them?

America is using the do as I saynot as I do model. It's not working.

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Originally posted by Ikki14Reed:
Why are some people allowed nuclear weapons and not others? That's what it really seems to be...

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Because we (the US) needs nuclear weapons to keep nations like Iran and NKorea from using them against us. If the UN were to outlaw all nuclear weapons, those few regimes who would work outside the "law" would have an advantage over the rest of the world.

'''''Why are some people allowed nuclear weapons and not others? That's what it really seems to be... '''''''

thats what i keep saying and finally some american is agreeing with me.......
america should give up its own adn then tell others to do what it is that they should do..rules are being really bent here.....

Iran is too big. I don't think Bush would try invading it. Though his irrationality has prevailed over rational thought before, so it's not impossible.

Why are some people allowed nuclear weapons and not others? That's what it really seems to be...

o god, we are making a colonial empire in the middle east...