From the AP/MSNBC:

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's High Tribunal on Sunday found Saddam Hussein guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced him to hang for the 1982 killing of 148 Shiites in the city of Dujail. The visibly shaken former leader shouted "God is great!"

Saddam's half brother and former intelligence chief Barzan Ibrahim, and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, head of the former Revolutionary Court, were sentenced to join Saddam on the gallows for the Dujail killings after an unsuccessful assassination attempt during a Saddam visit to the city 35 miles north of Baghdad.

The death sentences automatically go to a nine-judge appeals panel which has unlimited time to review the case. If the verdicts and sentences are upheld, the executions must be carried out within 30 days.

(The rest can be read @ MSNBC SADDAM )

What do you think? Does he deserve the Death Penalty? Will it actually happen? Did the Bush Administration play a part in the sentence? Especially since the sentence came on Nov. 5, 2006, 2 days before the important mid-term elections?

Speak Up! Speak Out! Now.

The only time taking away something that is not one's own, someone's life, is acceptable is in when backed into a corner and forced to fight to keep something that is being stolen of your own, or in self-defense.

Saddam is Saddam. Everyone has their own color adjective to describe the things the man committed. This man took lives so other guys put him away. He is not taking anything more. To kill a man because "I think he is inhumane" is not justice. It is doing more than preventing him from doing more harm. It is nothing more than staying with what has always been done to really, really bad guys. It is acting on emotion of disgust and disbelief and fear. It is, as has been said numerously, uncivilized.
I am against the death penalty, it and murder are synonymous, to me. If someone steals my car I do not steal his car to punish him, although that would be some sort of a stupid lesson, more of one than the death penalty. I used to think it immoral, the death penalty, but my wishes are for "bad guys" to rot in prison for life, so I really mustn't put moral into this. I do not believe he should have the right to die considering himself a martyr.
Another thing is, if one says that the death sentence is inhumane or any nuisance of the word yet one insists that letting the wrongdoer rot in prison is far better payment for his misdeeds, well, there is hypocrisy there (does not apply to most, as most do not view jail time for life as "rotting" but simply as a place away from injuring others).
He is gone and all that the public will ever know mostly is what "they'll" want us to know about what really went down, as far as a fair trial is concerned. Justice blind my ass.

If you're in Gitmo, it means you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. According to Amnesty International, none of the detainees in Gitmo have been convicted of any criminal charge. Interesting, no?

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:

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Lets just say that if your in Guantanomo bay your probably guilty.

then why are so many held without charge? you have been made to believe exactly what propagandists would have you believe, it is a real shame.

And you believe what you *want* to believe which makes you dangerous.

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Lets just say that if your in Guantanomo bay your probably guilty.

then why are so many held without charge? you have been made to believe exactly what propagandists would have you believe, it is a real shame.

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Originally posted by clpo13:

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So a guy who murders or even attempts to murder innocent people and children not to mention US soilders dosent deserve a little pain?

I think you mean "a guy who's under suspicion of murder or attempting to murder innocent people and children not to mention US soldiers but hasn't been convicted yet." The majority of people in Gitmo have not been fairly tried. That's what we're on about. You can have fun with the guys proven guilty all you want, but the simple fact of the matter is that not everyone in Gitmo should be there. It's a perversion of justice to hold and torture people when the only "evidence" against them is that they're of Middle Eastern descent.

Lets just say that if your in Guantanomo bay your probably guilty.

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Originally posted by Knighthammer:
[...] you can be a smart ass all you want but that dosent make you right.

Exactly. I hope you're getting the irony here. I'd hate to have to explain it.

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So a guy who murders or even attempts to murder innocent people and children not to mention US soilders dosent deserve a little pain?

I think you mean "a guy who's under suspicion of murder or attempting to murder innocent people and children not to mention US soldiers but hasn't been convicted yet." The majority of people in Gitmo have not been fairly tried. That's what we're on about. You can have fun with the guys proven guilty all you want, but the simple fact of the matter is that not everyone in Gitmo should be there. It's a perversion of justice to hold and torture people when the only "evidence" against them is that they're of Middle Eastern descent.

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Originally posted by conflictingzest:
Knighthammer,
You say some of the most foolish things i've ever heard. I hope you don't actually mean the things that come out of your keyboard. Also Guantanomo was a prison for suspected terrorist, sometimes they didn't even have proof. Besides even if they were guilty they wouldn't have deserved the things done to them.

So a guy who murders or even attempts to murder innocent people and children not to mention US soilders dosent deserve a little pain? I think not. I will never show anyone at Guantanomo pity and I dont screw around when it comes to things of this nature I mean what I say.

Knighthammer,
You say some of the most foolish things i've ever heard. I hope you don't actually mean the things that come out of your keyboard. Also Guantanomo was a prison for suspected terrorist, sometimes they didn't even have proof. Besides even if they were guilty they wouldn't have deserved the things done to them.

If your at Guantanomo you deserve a little abuse. If isnt one mans vendetta its for everyone those terrorists murdered.

Just theowing this in here but shouldn't bush be tried for war crimes? especially since the quantanomo prison incident? why aren't there investigations into what america has been doing this whole time? we should have a bush trial.

also i feel it's wrong that america pressured their allies to join them in their dumb idea for a war. The other countries knew what was going to happen and they wanted to stay out. Now all of out soldiers are dying for one mans vendetta, it's crap really.

The entire loosely connected process from the 9/11 attack to our current status in Iraq has been nothing but grey areas. Grey areas in the best way to immediately respond to the attack, grey areas in the necessity of committing to an invasion of a nation that might or might not (by which I mean might not) have possessed WMDs, gray areas in the likelihood of a former dictatorship to embrace democracy, grey areas in how our actions would ultimately shape our international image, grey areas in how committing to a war against terrorists would actually affect America's safety, and as for the gray areas involving the best ways of actually carrying out that invasion, well, people could write entire books on that subject. And they are. In a time when open and honest debate and criticism is absolutely essential to America's stability, the "you're either with us or against us" mentality is the most dangerous attitude a person can take. This is just Reasonable Thinking 101.

Wars are never pointless they always have a purpose and you can be a smart ass all you want but that dosent make you right.

No grey areas? That's absurd. Look at it this way:

Black: kill innocent civilians.
White: go to war to kill people who kill innocent civilians.
Grey: do neither.

Got it? Grey areas are right smack-dab in the middle. I'm not with this administration, but that doesn't mean I'm selling C-4 to terrorists, does it now?

Also, you seem to be confusing supporting the country with supporting every single misguided war the country gets itself into. Stop it.

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Originally posted by LoveTheRainbow:
Well I for one don't agree with the war but I also don't agree with killing innocent civilians.

Thats exactly what the terrorists did to us! How can you believe they are wrong and yet not support your country?

Well I for one don't agree with the war but I also don't agree with killing innocent civilians.

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Originally posted by LoveTheRainbow:
There are always grey areas Knight. You just can't see it because of your extreme nationalistic ways.

If there are grey areas in this I will never see them. Name some.

There are always grey areas Knight. You just can't see it because of your extreme nationalistic ways.

Some things are black and white. There is no middle ground in war. If your not with America your with the terrorists and your my enemy. If you want to be neutral in a time of war go to Switzerland and be the Popes bodyguard.

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He was right.

No Maya's right.