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Registered: November 29, 2003
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BBC Newsquote: Bush claimed God told him to invade Iraq, Afghanistan: BBC Thu Oct 6, 5:44 PM ET
LONDON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush allegedly said God told him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, a new BBC documentary will reveal, according to details.
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Bush made the claim when he met Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas and then foreign minister Nabil Shaath in June 2003, the ministers told the documentary series to be broadcast in Britain later this month.
The US leader also told them he had been ordered by God to create a Palestinian state, the ministers said.
Shaath, now the Palestinian information minister, said: " President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God.
'God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'.'
"And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq...' And I did.
"'And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God I'm gonna do it'," said Shaath.
Abbas, who was also at the meeting in the Egyptian resort of Sharm al-Sheikh, recalled how the president told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation.
"So I will get you a Palestinian state."
A BBC spokesman said the content of the programme had been put to the White House but it had refused to comment on a private conversation.
The three-part series, "Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs", charts the attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, from former US president Bill Clinton's peace talks in 1999-2000 to Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza strip.
The programme speaks to presidents and prime ministers, their generals and ministers, about what happened behind closed doors as the peace talks failed and the intifada grew.
The series is due to be screened in Britain on October 10, 17 and 24.
Are you flipping kidding me?!
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
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Registered: April 24, 2005
Posts: 872
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quote: Fault Bush for his policies and works of his administration
where do we begin?
'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
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Registered: September 29, 2004
Posts: 3690
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Okay, I don't make fun of Bush for the nuclear thing. Because, I know he's the President and all that fancy crap, but I've slipped on that word once or twice. It happens. And the pretzel? I once bent down to pick up a chip and knocked my head on a lamp table. Fault Bush for his policies and works of his administration, not his klutziness or lackluster pronunciation.
A lo hecho, pecho.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6058
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quote: you have got to have respect for a man who can hit your house with a cruise missile anywhere in the world in 15 minutes.
I have no respect for people who value might over anything else. quote: more power and education than any of you will ever have
And yet the man can't even say "nuclear" right? By the way, anyone of us could go to college and get just as much, if not more, education than Bush did. I'll be sure to call you up and laugh at you once that happens. A word of advice, just like Christianity isn't the spiritual standard to be judged by, neither is the presidency the success standard to be judged by. I'd take someone like Stephen Hawking over George Bush any day.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: June 06, 2004
Posts: 3373
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Yes he did. It gave him a black eye too. Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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This might be a stupid question, but it's twice now that it has come up. Did GWB really choke on a pretzel, or was risk's comment really an allusion to that othe post?
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: June 06, 2004
Posts: 3373
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quote: If you do not reach the same heights as GW, won't that reflect negetively on yourselves?
You think that a persons level of success is dictated by the amount of power they obtain? Pretty scarry. Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
Posts: 3719
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quote: The hate and elitism coming out of you people is incredible!
I'm thinking of a word. It starts with an H ends with -ypocrite. Get over it.
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Registered: June 06, 2004
Posts: 3373
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quote: Alright, when you graduate from Harvard and Yale, you give me a call.
I think he is a good man who has made some mistakes. My biggest problem with him is that he seems to shy away from taking responsibility for his actions. Make no mistake; he's no idiot, but he has never impressed me with his ability to think or form thought provoking retorts to a claim either in debate or in a press conference. I find his public speaking tollerable sometimes and hard to listen to mostly. I have only found it excellent once(in Detroit at the the Urban League a while back where he talked about black people making the Democratic Party earn their votes rather than taking them for granted). I think he understands the energy market which is very important. I'm not equating the two, but JFK was an economically minded President also, he graduated from the London School of Economics. Bobby is widely recognized for being somewhat of a social influence on Johns policy(freedom riders thing was all bobby's suggestion). But John had a nimble mind and grasped the intricacies of new concepts very quickly. I don't have the confidence in President Bush's ability to do that. It's not quite a Harvard MBA but how about Princeton and Hamline? Ring, Ring, Ring. Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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quote: The hate and elitism coming out of you people is incredible! Like him or not (and I don't), you have got to have respect for a man who can hit your house with a cruise missile anywhere in the world in 15 minutes
Are you really serious? Then Bush is seriously a tyrant, if we have to fear that he will take our lives. The Constitution says that we have a right to overthrow a tyrranical government. This is exactly the reason we dumped a few kilos of East Indian Camillian leaves into the Boston Harbor and fought up and down the east coast. quote: So Reactionary, since my dad went to Harvard and Stanford and graduated with high honors, can he criticize Bush's lack of intelligence?
what about me? My father graduated from the University of Chicago, and invented parts of nuclear weapondry, missiles, and reactor parts. I would like to see Bush try and decipher the plans in my basement of Three Mile Island.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
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So Reactionary, since my dad went to Harvard and Stanford and graduated with high honors, can he criticize Bush's lack of intelligence?
They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: September 29, 2004
Posts: 3690
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Btw, it's "do well in college" not "do good." That said, Celtic would outperform our President in Yale. And outperform Kerry as well. Anyhoo, I don't admire anyone who can "hit my house with a missle." I abhor anyone who has the ability to abuse their power in such a way. And I pity the foo' who admires it.
A lo hecho, pecho.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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quote: Originally Posted by George Bush
God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq...' And I did.
And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God I'm gonna do it.
quote: Originally Posted by Muslim Suicide Bomber
Allah would tell me, "Muhammed, go fight those infidels in America.' And I did, and then Allah would tell me, 'Muhammed, go and end the tyranny in Iraq...' And I'm trying.
What's the difference again? oh yeah.. Their god sucks and ours doesn't. Duh...
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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Sure he went there, but look at his GPA. I am confident that Celtic could do just as well if not better. "You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore |
Registered: May 07, 2005
Posts: 1213
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quote: Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Hah, I plan to have way more education than he ever had. And I actually plan to do good in college.
Alright, when you graduate from Harvard and Yale, you give me a call.
myspace.com/thesnowfell
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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Hah, I plan to have way more education than he ever had. And I actually plan to do good in college.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: May 07, 2005
Posts: 1213
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The hate and elitism coming out of you people is incredible! Like him or not (and I don't), you have got to have respect for a man who can hit your house with a cruise missile anywhere in the world in 15 minutes. George Bush has more power and education than any of you will ever have, and yet you consider him slightly retarded. If you do not reach the same heights as GW, won't that reflect negetively on yourselves?
myspace.com/thesnowfell
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8352
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Well I always thought the man was crazy, just not THAT crazy...
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: April 24, 2005
Posts: 872
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haha I read about this in newspapers here in the UK, this is brilliant. So God speaks to George Bush? or are those just the voices in his head? whichever it is i'm scared, what if one day those voices tell him to nuke everybody? Maybe god has a plan for George Bush, perhaps there was divine intervention to stop him curling his toes up when that piece of pretzel became lodged in his throat....but joking aside this is a very worrying thing to hear and further adds to some muslim claims that what is happening is a crusade...not to mention proves he is two screws short of a chest of drawers.
'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
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Registered: September 29, 2004
Posts: 3690
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quote: Originally posted by reactionary05:
When George Bush looks me in the eye and says, "God told me to invade Iraq & Afghanistan", I'll believe. And not until then.
And yet you're a Christian. Iiirony.
A lo hecho, pecho.
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