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Picture of Blank04
Registered: November 10, 2004
Posts: 87
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Communist views are necessarily not that bad, but they don't work.

The USSr was on the brink of becoming a third world country because of communism. The genocide in Cambodia was carried out by a communist regime. East Germany, most of their citizens attempted escaping to the Nationalist West. North Korea, now poverty ridden and a third world country.

Communism doesn't work.


"This all just one big sh!t sandwich and pretty soon we're all going to have to take a bite."-Full Metal Jacket
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negative memories of fascism and tyranny with the well-intentioned efforts of people who are trying to even things out a little.


Negative memories of fascism? It's the same damn thing! Marxism is practiced and used by the fascists, socialists and the communists, so to say the "negative memories" of fascism...I mean, I just really can't understand I guess why it is that people can't make that connection.

Well-intentioned efforts by some to steal my parents' money, and then give it to others ...that's tyranny! Theft is illegal!

The only role government should be in -- federally, speaking -- is protecting my rights, your rights, and individual's rights. And, they should defend us against attack and fraud.

That's it.

None of this welfare check crap. If our taxes were based solely on how much we consumed, rather than how much wealth we have, there wouldn't be much of a problem in this "class" system. And stop calling it a class system. This isn't Soviet Russia. This is America. Hard work pays off, it really does.

But the more people must pay in taxes, the poorer they get.

You backers of communist ideals have no grasp of any real-world economic hardship at all. None.

If you were to read about, hear, and witness what regular, everyday Americans go through in paying ungodly amounts of taxes, you sure as heck wouldn't be backers of the redistribution of wealth.
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Registered: February 27, 2004
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Communism is evil even if it could be a sucess because it denies a person his right to property. Also, the government is too big under communsim, as it merges government with economy.


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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 701
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and the jobs you had to work hardest to land payed the best. But in America, that's simply not the case. We're paying teachers next to nothing and movie stars billions of dollars. We're paying scientists decently, but nothing near what we're paying professional athletes.


What are you talking about? To become a movie star or a profesional athlete is a hell of a lot harder than becoming a teacher or scientist.
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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My parents have studied in Russia- Scolorship so Im surrounded by a lot of people who really believe that Communism can exist though not in its present form. I read a lot of books and most of the are by American authors and the picture they paint is totally different from what my parents say. Its like they are talking about parallel universes.Thats what im saying its like the world is totally prejudiced against communism . It may not have been all that bad.


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Registered: March 08, 2004
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Joey, if you want to call any redistribution of wealth "communism", then yes, communism is still running rampant. But the fact is, under our current capitalist system, the divide between the rich and the poor will just continue growing. To some degree, the wealth needs to be redistributed. Those who call doing so "communism," are just trying to connect negative memories of fascism and tyranny with the well-intentioned efforts of people who are trying to even things out a little. All-out communism clearly doesn't work, but unmonitored, restrictionless capitalism will prove to be just as dangerous in time.

The only situation in which no wealth redistribution would be possible is one in which everyone played on an even field, and the jobs you had to work hardest to land payed the best. But in America, that's simply not the case. We're paying teachers next to nothing and movie stars billions of dollars. We're paying scientists decently, but nothing near what we're paying professional athletes. Redistribution of wealth is imperative.


And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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Communism didn't die though.

In fact, it's taken on various forms, mixing in with fascism like we have now.

The redistribution of wealth, the progressive taxation of every person, the loss of private property rights and in turn, the loss of this country's independence at the hands of world government backers, is completely evident.

Pretty soon, the Haves won't have anything left for the Have Nots.

The Have Nots have been stealing for too long. It's only a matter of time when our country goes completely bankrupt because of the Marxist underpinnings our elected leaders have led us through.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Wrong. THe USSR was powerful with Communism. Come the fall of it, they're ****ed up.


He has a point. The economy had been disintergrating under communism for about fifty years. After wwII, the government did a lot for the farmers and factory workers, but, by the time the 1960's roled around, the farmers were still working with middle age technology, the indurstrialsits with 1890's equiptment, and there was a huge scarcity of goods. The army was huge, but, on the economic front, the metaphorical **** had hit the fan.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Wrong. THe USSR was powerful with Communism. Come the fall of it, they're ****ed up. I'd rather them be communist. And I have rights to say that, I've lived there, and I will venture there again after the Holidays to face the horrid tasting water, the harsh cold, the anarchy, the skinheads, the possibility of having the building where I stay explode, perhaps being a hostage in school, the xenophopia, the risk of being bombed by Chechens, the risk of getting kidnapped and sold as a wife in Kazakhstan, and maybe getting my *** raped and shot as I will surely attempt to get myself to Chechenya with a camera.

I love Russia. There are just so many ways to die there.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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Frankly I think the world is biased against communists . I mean granted they are a little old fashioned and their ideas are too radicle sometimes but their basic concepts make sense . The thing is you cant take anybody or anything as the absolute truth , not even the Bible things change according to circumstances , Cmmunism seemed to work fine in a basic country like Mongolia . With USSR the pity was that Communism failed with the very people who are its darlings , the writers the unions and the youth


I'll sleep when im dead .
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