There is not much to say about this. It is tragic and disturbing. Could this happen at your high school?

while my school has some what good security, all they do is check for school IDs but a school across town has already had 4 GUNS found and several knives during first quarter now "I have a four month old baby girl that stays with my mom down the street from that school" and they dont lte anyone in the community know about this dangerous situation but I think if they put it out there where everyone knows then some of the parents will lock up these wepons but like I said they just cover it up which is not enough. Granted a lot of what teens and pre-teens are picking up this is not from moms,dads grandparent, but from movies, video game, and peer pressurenow I also know that a lot of it is all about drugs to I think that schools should get medal detectors and drug dogs and alot will go away but no they care more about there attendance than anything I also believe that if they got rid of the fighting that whould solve some of it too I believe if they can't protect us from this in school then why make us go and put our lives at risk I would hate it if something happen to me and my mom have to tell my daughter that mommy was killed at school what would be her motivation to go? if we aren't safe then why go?

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Originally posted by benje309:
It is very scary. And yes, unfortunaly, it can happen at any school.

My school has great security guards, they really are great, fun, and personable, but they can't detect a gun in a backpack with out metal detectors, which would just cost too much $$.

Its terrible.

You're right- it would be very scary and it could happen at any school but you just have to trust your peers and hang out with the right people and make the right choices. I hope that god is with anyone who is in a bad situation or at a not so good school

Ohhh... So you're fine as well? Are you being a narcissist?

God(TM) only knows we have enough of them around here.

Just noting we have something in common. She's one of the few brunettes I consider attractive. And, she's one of the few people in Hollywood I consider attractive. She must be damn fine if I'm saying that.

Hold on, you're fine? Or you can throw knives?

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You know who can throw knives? Angelina.

Well then I have something in common with her ... damn she's fine.

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Because prior to 1968, people were actually raising their children. Before, any juvenille crime, the finger was pointed at the parents. Which was usually the reason.

Now, however, any juvenille crime committed, the finger is pointed at his or her CD collection, movies, books he/she read, and shirts he/she wore. And not, of course, to the parent who dismissed a zealous interest Hitler and a detached and defiant attitude.

Perhaps because the "CD collection, movies", etc. plays a bigger role than many would like to believe. While lax parenting certainly is more prevalent now than in the past (e.g. pre-1968), a lot of other factors haven't changed or should decrease these problems if one were to believe the so-called conventional wisdom:

-Drug use was pretty bad in the 60's.
-There certainly was plenty of rebelliousness among youth.
-Many states either had no drinking age or it was rarely enforced, and there was no smoking age.
-Legal gun access was far greater in the 60's and beforehand (BTW, forgot to mention: Prior to 1968, you could also legally own a machine gun, tank, howitzer, and any weapon over 50 caliber).

In fact, the only tangible item that has increased in availability since then is easy access to media and media violence.

No doubt, parental involvement is a huge part of it too. That's probably the single greatest contributor to youth violence.

But if you're going to blame inanimate objects and "easy access" to such-and-such for the problems we have now, then it makes sense to blame those tangible factors that have substantially increased in availability, not those factors that have decreased or held somewhat constant; it's obvious one of the biggest contributors to those problems is the availability of media influences.

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We've got some kids like that here also but from what I've heard the UK problem is pretty bad. I actually ran into a few kids that sort of fit that description when I was over there this summer.

yeah probably the work of 'chavs'. yob culture is bad here, will make this country much easier to leave.

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Originally posted by BonaFide91Reverie:
I personally feel bad for the people doing the shooting...they need some serious help....they are practically crying for help by doing something so inhuman.....

Keep in mind that half of these people don't give a damn anyhow, and don't want the help that society offers them, or have already received all the "help" that society offers them and still haven't changed.

So then, I suggest we just blow their brains out and get it over with. When rehab doesn't work - kill the sucker!!! You must be like Guerilla readical warfare suicide bombers - be ready to give your life if you feel you have the right to take one..

It's simple and plain.

Maybe if we wee doing that, murderers would get the point, painfully so, at least one econd before they die.

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Originally posted by BonaFide91Reverie:
will this ever stop? This is one of the reasons why we all need to be united..so we can fix problems like these.....

Like I said before, get serious and start toruring them to death and blowing their brains out. That'll make the point PAINFULLY obvious....

Yes, this is a sad issue...I personally feel bad for the people doing the shooting...they need some serious help....they are practically crying for help by doing something so inhuman.....And the people who end up getting hurt is very tragic. It affects the whole community, the peers....how safe are schools these days, and will this ever stop? This is one of the reasons why we all need to be united..so we can fix problems like these.....

just to say I live Colorado the incident in Denver was bad. those trench coat mafia fuckers deserve the circle of hell they are in.

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Originally posted by northstar316:
people seriously need to take up hobbies or something...less destructive than shooting people. Like tile painting.

Tile Painting is destructive..to the beauty of every home in America and abroad.

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if there was one thing i could change about my country, it would be to get rid of this problem, in any way possible, these 'people' are bringing society down, destroying community values and so on. It makes me ashamed of my own country sometimes.

We've got some kids like that here also but from what I've heard the UK problem is pretty bad. I actually ran into a few kids that sort of fit that description when I was over there this summer.

They were trying to break into a lifeguard shack and the one grad student (from Plymouth) I was working with was getting into some trouble with them. They thought he had called the cops on them (the funny thing was somebody else already had, this guy was just walking back to our research site). I really wanted to show them some good ol' American pugilism. :-D
I told my partner not to worry because "I went to public school in Jersey", then I realized that probably meant nothing to him over there, haha.

people seriously need to take up hobbies or something...less destructive than shooting people. Like tile painting.

yes we atribute these kinds of events as the work of 'chavs', anyone from the UK will know what im talking about, but it is a sub-culture that has developed amongst the working class who dress in a certain way, talk in a certain way and think violence and intimidation are cool, often commiting petty crimes and anti social behaviour and sometimes serious crime.

if there was one thing i could change about my country, it would be to get rid of this problem, in any way possible, these 'people' are bringing society down, destroying community values and so on. It makes me ashamed of my own country sometimes.

Check this out:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4430326.stm

It just happens often enough for us to almost not notice it. Glad you guys do, tho..

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Originally posted by bluedemocrat:
Could this happen at your high school?

I come from Jamaica, and while there is a lot of violence here, school violence has never really been THAT drastic.

It's tragic, yeah, but I wonder why that guy felt like he needed to use a gun on his superiors. We often look at stuff from the victim's side, but I really wonder what led that kid to feel the need to take a life - was he having problems at home with his parents? Or perhaps in his community? Was he having issues at school with his friends? Was he mentally disfigured in some way? Was he just insane, or cruel? Or was he just a normal kid who just got up one day with the urge to kill somebody? What really leads to that level of violence in teens?

Its sad, but what more is there too say.

Boo yeah!