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Picture of Meagan87
Registered: May 07, 2003
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What the heck is everyone arguing about??? The high prices of gas stinks and people are right to be upset about the high cost...what more is there to say???


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Well no one said they'd stay at five dollars. But they will peak somewhere around there.

Call it nature's wake-up call, if you will.


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Registered: February 27, 2003
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Originally posted by Horselover14:
I can definitely see how some places could reach $5 gas prices. It might not be for long and it might not be the national norm, but I think some places are going to hit that.

All I can say is that I hope we learn something from all this.
Temporarily perhaps, but not for the long term.

Oh yeah, unless Rita does some serious end-of-the-world type damage I wouldn't expect the price to stay that high for long.


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Originally posted by Horselover14:
I can definitely see how some places could reach $5 gas prices. It might not be for long and it might not be the national norm, but I think some places are going to hit that.

All I can say is that I hope we learn something from all this.
Temporarily perhaps, but not for the long term.


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I can definitely see how some places could reach $5 gas prices. It might not be for long and it might not be the national norm, but I think some places are going to hit that.

All I can say is that I hope we learn something from all this.


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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When did I say it was? I just believe it's forcing people to buy gas at a more expensive rate than necessary.
How are they forcing people to?
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They're making more profit than necessary is what I'm saying.
Ok. An dwha tis 'neccessary profit'? The point is tomake as much profit as possible.
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Sure, it'll drive the auto-makers market into hybrids (Ford has recently declared they will have half-hybrids in the company by 2010...) but for now the American people don't have many hybrid options. It's disgusting in my opinion, because they're knowingly financially raping the American people. I would like to see some proof that the general US population is benefitting in the short term from this.
Firstly, who is 'they'? In other words, who is knowingly financially raping the american people? Secondly, why does the US population need to benefit from it? It's a pie in the sky theory to think that all actions have to make the most people happy.


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Thank you for proving CNN to be bogus mac. I appreciate it, I really do.
Sarcasm doesn't help much.


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Two disasters, by the time Rita hits. I've heard estimates of five dollars a gallon in the near future.


That thought scares the crap out of me. I don't know how I will afford it if it reaches that.


The fact is that it scares everybody, and I'm pretty sure that gas prices could reach around five dollars eventually if there isn't some true and noteable reform to the energy situation in the country. With a second major hurricane looming off the gulf coast, we can only expect it to bring gas prices even higher. I know in Virginia, after Katrina hit New Orleans, gas prices reached as high as 3.87 a gallon. Not to mention in the capital city of Richmond, prices reached 4.00 a gallon.

So 5.00 gas prices isn't out of the question.


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Two disasters, by the time Rita hits. I've heard estimates of five dollars a gallon in the near future.


That thought scares the crap out of me. I don't know how I will afford it if it reaches that.


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Profit is not inherently a bad thing. That is the flaw in your whole argument. Making a profit is the foundation of capitalism and therefore this country.


When did I say it was? I just believe it's forcing people to buy gas at a more expensive rate than necessary. They're making more profit than necessary is what I'm saying. Sure, it'll drive the auto-makers market into hybrids (Ford has recently declared they will have half-hybrids in the company by 2010...) but for now the American people don't have many hybrid options. It's disgusting in my opinion, because they're knowingly financially raping the American people. I would like to see some proof that the general US population is benefitting in the short term from this.


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Thank you for proving CNN to be bogus mac. I appreciate it, I really do.


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Two disasters, by the time Rita hits. I've heard estimates of five dollars a gallon in the near future.
Yes, by those who are horribly mis-informed. I doubt it will reach it.


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If Rita causes the Texas Gulf Coast oil production to shut down, it won't be a matter of how much gas is. It'll be a matter of even finding gas.

That's a lot scarier than *ooo* three bucks a gallon.
It won't. It may shutdown certain refineries for a couple days or maybe even a week but that is temporary.


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Mmm... But according to certain economic experts, the prices do not reflect the actual price for the tycoons. Instead, they're reaping a whole lot of money off the American people because Americans thought the Hurricane did something terrible to the market (which it did, but only temporarily) and there is a certain extra percent profit the oil companies are still making (I believe the website said either seventeen or seventy) [either way it's more than it should be] a substantial profit compared to what they were making.
Profit is not inherently a bad thing. That is the flaw in your whole argument. Making a profit is the foundation of capitalism and therefore this country.


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Registered: March 02, 2003
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Also, my daddy told me the other day that the heating bill for his house would increase 71%, also because of Katrina.

Hurricanes suck.


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In Greensboro, NC, gas is around $2.90. It still sucks (mostly because I'm a college student and anything about $1.00 is expensive to me), but at least my house isn't underwater.


When the president talks to god are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women's rights and send more farm kids off to die? Does God suggest an oil hike when the president talks to god?
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No surprise if it does end up reaching that.


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Two disasters, by the time Rita hits. I've heard estimates of five dollars a gallon in the near future.


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Registered: February 27, 2003
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It's about $2.70 in Alaska but it really varies depending on where you get it.

I almost think this'll be good for the U.S., it might finally force us to stop using gas-hog trucks and start using better options. I just wish it hadn't taken a disaster like this to wake us up.


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Registered: May 07, 2003
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The weird part is that a lot of the gas in our area is relatively inexpensive, but we are "the motor city", where everyone 18+ pretty much owns a car. There is no real public transportation system in Detroit, except for "the people mover" which basically takes people from the parking lots to their venue of choice...

Strange huh?


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