Question:
i don't know myself so don't ask me

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yes
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like i care
martha stewart should go to jail instead
who's micheal jackson?

 

therapy is definatly needed in this case.

Today a friend said that Michael Jackson was delusional and thought he was Peter Pan and then someone else said he did something to his nose, and everyone got into this huge debate on him. Finally we all agreed that whether he goes to jail or not, he needs therapy.

I never want to be a lawyer, either. Too much lying involved

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Originally posted by BushFan08:
worthwaitingfor: I see what you're saying. Someone has to be lying in this case. I'm not saying the kids are telling the truth for sure, I'm just saying that I've heard enough about all this to think that they aren't lying. They could be lying, but like I said before, no one knows except Michael and the boys.

This is why I don't want to be a lawyer or ever serve jury duty (even though I know the latter is impossible). I hate cases like this where there is little to no hardcore evidence and neither side is willing to back down. I hate cases where you have to rely on people's word. People's word is rarely easy to trust, especially when someone has to be lying and both stories sound believable.

Which is why I also have decided to remain neutral on the subject because (a) I don't really know (b) I don't really care to know (c) It's really none of my business.

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Okay BlkPanther, I know youre trying to voice your opinion here, and thats great, but you sound like a moron. You cant just come into message boards (long after theyve started) and voice your opinion with nothing to back you up.
Yes, maybe the parents are lying, but maybe Michael Jackson is too. It seems like in cases where celebrities are involved, the other person is always lying for money. When you become a celebrity do you automatically stop lying/ doing horrible (i.e. molesting little boys) acts? I think not...So before you come in here and just spout off about things you dont have a clue about, you need to get your facts/proof to back up your argument. Please and Thank You.

Oh...I'm sorry I didn't realizes I was talking to an "expert" on the Micheal Jackson trail? For your info...missy...I gave plenty of reasons to back up my argument, for one there are plenty of boys who said they were never molested by micheal jackson. Also in the case George Lopez testified against the little cancer boy's father saying he tried to get money out of him a couple of times. The flight attentdent also testified saying the little boy was a butt hole on the flights bragging to her that micheal jackson will buy him anything. And bragging about the watch he bought him. So maybe micheal decided not to buy the kid nothing anymore so they cried MOLESTER! So...I do got my facts straight...yet I don't see anything to back your arguement up...unless YOU count ignorance, which I don't. So before you think about "just comeing into message boards (long after theyve started) and voice your opinion with nothing to back you up." Stop...think...and then don't! Because I know "your trying to voice your opinion here, and that's great, but you sound like a..." Naw, There is no need to resort to name calling, but feel free to fill in the blank!! THANK YOU!

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Originally posted by punkz13:
how many kids has he had at his house? plenty. micheal's routinely had parties at his place. so why hasn't every last one of those parents reported molestation? the main factor in this trial is the money. that is everything.

Why didnt the parents report molestation? Actually some did like 10 years ago, but the case was never followed through enough. And when you are molested, a lot of times the molester threatens that they will do something to you if you tell someone about his/her actions. Now I'm not saying that Michael Jackson threatened the little boys that he molested. But I've seen the things that molesters tell kids that they touch inappropriately, etc...

Maybe he didn't molest every single one of those boys. Every trial that deals with a celebrity will be about the money, it's inevitable. The parents might be in this for the money, but they might not.

how many kids has he had at his house? plenty. micheal's routinely had parties at his place. so why hasn't every last one of those parents reported molestation? the main factor in this trial is the money. that is everything.

Blkpanther: Oh, so you know for sure that everyone but Michael Jackson is lying. Yes, he was dumb for putting himself in a situation where people would think something happened. Did it really happen? No one knows for sure except Michael and the kids. I don't know about everyone else, but I don't respect Michael Jackson or any of the Jacksons because they have all gotten into some serious problems, and their father was evil.
worthwaitingfor: I see what you're saying. Someone has to be lying in this case. I'm not saying the kids are telling the truth for sure, I'm just saying that I've heard enough about all this to think that they aren't lying. They could be lying, but like I said before, no one knows except Michael and the boys.

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Originally posted by BlkPanther:
This whole trial is bull!!

Micheal Jackson didn't molest anyone. those kids and parents are making it up to get money. No sane parent would let their child stay over a grown man's house anyway. There are plenty of kids (boys) that have gone over micheal jackson's house and haven't been "molested." That home alone kid (forgot his name) said he was never molested or touch by MJ. That other kid that played on Goonies, wnet over his house and never got molested. Could it be because he already has money and doesn't need to lie to get any. Could be? People are greedy. I am gonna admit...Micheal Jackson was dumb as hell for letting strange kids come spend the night over his house. I know he got nephews and cousins that could come play at neverland. He should have known that those parents were going to hit him up for some money. No one likes him because he "looks different." And because he acts different. That man is still a big dam kid. The kids are full of crap, the parents are full of crap, and this whole case is nothing but a bunch of crap.

Okay BlkPanther, I know youre trying to voice your opinion here, and thats great, but you sound like a moron. You cant just come into message boards (long after theyve started) and voice your opinion with nothing to back you up.
Yes, maybe the parents are lying, but maybe Michael Jackson is too. It seems like in cases where celebrities are involved, the other person is always lying for money. When you become a celebrity do you automatically stop lying/ doing horrible (i.e. molesting little boys) acts? I think not...So before you come in here and just spout off about things you dont have a clue about, you need to get your facts/proof to back up your argument. Please and Thank You.

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And yes, maybe the little boys he molested are lying, but have y'all ever stopped to think that maybe Michael Jackson is lying? Everybody is automatically assuming that the boys lied, well what about him? He can lie just like they can..You might say that only little kids lie, but since Michael Jackson said he never had a childhood and wants to stay a kid, then he can lie just like the boys he molested can...

I'm not taking up for Michael Jackson (I don't much care either way). I know he could be lying. But everyone who is against him only look at one side and assume he's the one lying when it could be the boys.

But I don't really care who is lying (obviously someone has to be), I just want to make sure everyone looks at both sides.

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Also, thanks for the "bush twins" comment. That was original....

Thanks. No problem.

This whole trial is bull!!

Micheal Jackson didn't molest anyone. those kids and parents are making it up to get money. No sane parent would let their child stay over a grown man's house anyway. There are plenty of kids (boys) that have gone over micheal jackson's house and haven't been "molested." That home alone kid (forgot his name) said he was never molested or touch by MJ. That other kid that played on Goonies, wnet over his house and never got molested. Could it be because he already has money and doesn't need to lie to get any. Could be? People are greedy. I am gonna admit...Micheal Jackson was dumb as hell for letting strange kids come spend the night over his house. I know he got nephews and cousins that could come play at neverland. He should have known that those parents were going to hit him up for some money. No one likes him because he "looks different." And because he acts different. That man is still a big dam kid. The kids are full of crap, the parents are full of crap, and this whole case is nothing but a bunch of crap.

I would never let a 45 year old man sleep in the same bed with my child. Even if he didn't molest them, that is just not appropriate.

So, in your opinion, a 45 year old man should be able to sleep in the same bed with young boys? Even if he didn't molest them, that is still creepy.

if he is convicted. sure, sharing a bed with kids is creepy, but if he didn't molest them, there is not a serious problem.

I personally find it hard to believe that Michael Jackson could be innocent. In my opinion a 45 year old man should not be sharing a bed with children. The man clearly has some issues having to do with childhood. I feel bad for him that his father beat him when he was younger and that he feels he didn't have a real childhood, but I still think that his actions warrant punishment.

maybe everyone in this case is lying. personally, i doubt that he molested anyone, but maybe he did. or maybe the parents are making the entire thing up and forcing their kids to lie.

Worthwaiting for, I have thought that maybe the boys were lying for that, or that their parents were making them lie to get money. Does that possibibility mean they're testimonies are no good? Like ilovebush said, Michael Jackson could be lying, just like the boys.
Also, thanks for the "bush twins" comment. That was original....

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And, personally, I don't much care if he is a child molestor or not. I think it's sad if he is but I also think it's sad that everyone cares so much just because it's Michael Jackson. There are child molestation cases every year and each person convicted is equally horrible but we don't read about them in the news.

But to everyone who is saying, "The victims stories have to count for something!" Or anything along those lines (mostly the "bush" twins") let me ask you this: Did you ever stop and think that maybe they're lying for the (1)press/fame and (2) money? Michael Jackson is a millionaire and, as American citizens have already proven, will bring anyone press and fame (whether it be negative or positive).

Exactly worthwaitingfor, when Michael Jackson became a celebrity, he gave up his private life. Hence why everybody is making a big deal out of his trial- hes famous.
And yes, maybe the little boys he molested are lying, but have y'all ever stopped to think that maybe Michael Jackson is lying? Everybody is automatically assuming that the boys lied, well what about him? He can lie just like they can..You might say that only little kids lie, but since Michael Jackson said he never had a childhood and wants to stay a kid, then he can lie just like the boys he molested can...