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Registered: June 12, 2007
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quote: the corpse can't give consent, can it?
So then would it follow through that it is rape, because no consent was given, or that it was not, because consent was not possible?
Li sempre essera le domande, non importa cio che la lingua.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6008
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If you want to stick parts of your body into rotting flesh, I won't stop you. Indeed, without consent it would be considered rape, but then again, the corpse can't give consent, can it? It's very interesting that there isn't a federal law against necrophilia. I suppose our administration is too concerned with protecting stem cells and playing in a giant sandbox.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: August 06, 2007
Posts: 12
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Thats just completely SICK! Gross... anyone who would wanna do that is mentally ill!! This should be illegal!!!
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Registered: October 22, 2006
Posts: 2528
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Well honesty if somebody wanted to dig up MY dead body to have sex with it. I'd be rather flattered. But really, once you're dead you're dead, you don't feel it or react to it in anyway (and I'm thinking sex with a dead corpse wouldn't be that great in the first place, a little dry perahps?) so what's the big deal? Personally people do weird things, and I don't always see what they find so great about it, but if you want to have sex with a girl who has been dead for 2 weeks and decomposing and you make the effort to dig her out of the grave I applaud you for being a sick bastard.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: August 03, 2007
Posts: 4
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HELLL NO Necrophilia shouldnt be legal.. i glt no personal problem with it but its just freakin gross..
if you want to do it thats on you but remember thats someones loved one . would you want someone having sex with your dead relatives corpse?.. why would they anyways
in a case not to long ago i think it was in texas were they tried to appeal the law of necrophilia and beastiality but trying to ban saudomy....sad..
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Registered: December 20, 2004
Posts: 950
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I think that you would probably have to start with a petition and getting the word out there. We should do that!
I'm confused... about life. and life hates me.
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Registered: February 25, 2007
Posts: 943
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quote: There was an article on this in the paper today; the problem is not in the lack of law, but in the ambiguity of an existing law.
So how would you go about changing that Law?
"With regard to exellence, it is not enough to know, but we must try to have and use it."-Aristotle
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5809
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quote: Tell that to the politicians.
It is really wrong in my eyes though.
There was an article on this in the paper today; the problem is not in the lack of law, but in the ambiguity of an existing law.
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Registered: February 25, 2007
Posts: 943
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Tell that to the politicians. It is really wrong in my eyes though.
"With regard to exellence, it is not enough to know, but we must try to have and use it."-Aristotle
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Registered: December 20, 2004
Posts: 950
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well it's bull shit.
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Registered: February 25, 2007
Posts: 943
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quote: Why is it even under question. Rape is illegal, and Necrophilia is rape of a dead body. so it should be illegal. (i don't see why it's not illegal there...)
Its not illegal, because somebody along the way lost all of there neurons when it was in question.
"With regard to exellence, it is not enough to know, but we must try to have and use it."-Aristotle
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Registered: December 20, 2004
Posts: 950
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Why is it even under question. Rape is illegal, and Necrophilia is rape of a dead body. so it should be illegal. (i don't see why it's not illegal there...)
I'm confused... about life. and life hates me.
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Registered: December 27, 2006
Posts: 3926
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Disrespect to the dead.
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Registered: March 08, 2004
Posts: 1685
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quote: Originally posted by scienceandhistorynut: It should both be illegal, and considered sexual assault. I think that it should be considered a mental condition. No one should be used for someone else's desires after the have been taken from this life.
It is considered a mental condition. In answer to your question, Ikki, that's a tough one. I'd had to say both should be illegal, but I do have a little sympathy for the guy who preserved his wife. I, of course, can't say for sure, but my guess would be he had a lot more going on than a simple paraphilia. Yeah, necrophilia of any kind should be outlawed, but in the case Ikki brought up I have to wonder about the concept of consent. In a recent Savage Love (it's an R-rated sex advice column, you've been warned), someone wrote in with an interesting fetish: he liked having sex with people who were asleep. Author Dan Savage's advice was to explore these fantasies with a partner. A lot of outraged readers wrote in to say that a person cannot give consent while sleeping, and thus if this person were to act on his fetish, it would be rape. But Savage's retort was that two people can be in the kind of relationship were consent is implied. He pointed out that if he initiated sexual activity with his sleeping partner in the middle of the night, there would be no rape accusations. As long as things were discussed ahead of time and put into the context of the relationship, they were fine. Obviously, necrophilia is a whole different and much creepier ball-game, but what I'm driving at is that it's not right to assume the preserved wife wouldn't have been okay with this. I know it's hard to imagine anyone consenting to such a thing, but this woman did, after all, marry this nut job; it's at least plausible. At the very least, it's an entirely different issue than sexual assault. Oh, for anyone interested in the legality of necrophilia by state...here ya go.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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Registered: February 25, 2007
Posts: 943
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quote: That aside: Should both, only one, or neither be illegal? Why or why not?
It should both be illegal, and considered sexual assault. I think that it should be considered a mental condition. No one should be used for someone else's desires after the have been taken from this life.
"With regard to exellence, it is not enough to know, but we must try to have and use it."-Aristotle
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5809
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quote: Either way, it's still disturbing.
That aside: Should both, only one, or neither be illegal? Why or why not?
Created through a masterful combination of Power Rangers, Rescue Rangers, Peter Pan, and two cute boys from Barney fifteen years ago, Awkward Ikki is sure to please and aggravate anyone she comes into contact with! Be sure to find your own Awkward Ikki today! (Only Available in 3-D).
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Registered: June 12, 2007
Posts: 941
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quote: Is necrophilia any worse if it's like the case aforementioned, where it was the guys wife, versus a case where they don't know the person?
Either way, it's still disturbing.
Li sempre essera le domande, non importa cio che la lingua.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5809
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So I was thinking: Is necrophilia any worse if it's like the case aforementioned, where it was the guys wife, versus a case where they don't know the person?
Created through a masterful combination of Power Rangers, Rescue Rangers, Peter Pan, and two cute boys from Barney fifteen years ago, Awkward Ikki is sure to please and aggravate anyone she comes into contact with! Be sure to find your own Awkward Ikki today! (Only Available in 3-D).
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5809
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quote: Necrophilia may be one of the creepier paraphilias, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not even one of the weirder ones. I
If I remember correctly, there was this one guy who's wife died young, and he preserved her corpse or something along those lines, kept her in the house, and had sex with her for more than a couple years. I should look that story up.
Created through a masterful combination of Power Rangers, Rescue Rangers, Peter Pan, and two cute boys from Barney fifteen years ago, Awkward Ikki is sure to please and aggravate anyone she comes into contact with! Be sure to find your own Awkward Ikki today! (Only Available in 3-D).
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Registered: March 08, 2004
Posts: 1685
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quote: Originally posted by scienceandhistorynut: Gross, Gross, what would poses you even to think of this.
It's a paraphilia. We spent a good deal of time on them in my abnormal psych class. None of the psychoanalytic theories as to why people decide to have sex with corpses seemed very satisfying (it was usually ideas like low self-esteem and belief they could never attract a living person, sexual performance anxieties, or desire to overpower and "force" another being to have sex with them). Other psychologists look to conditioning, and believe that at some point in the young necrophiliac's life, a connection between sex and dead bodies is somehow made, but I have a hard time picturing that happening very often. All I know for sure is, human perversion knows no bounds. Necrophilia may be one of the creepier paraphilias, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not even one of the weirder ones. It's certainly one of the more pervasive ones in our society and culture, so it's really little wonder the idea gets in people's heads. Also, just a random tidbit: If I remember correctly, the majority of active necrophiliacs don't go digging up graves; most prefer sex with very freshly deceased bodies. But I still say that while it should be a crime, the necrophiliac should not have to pay for digging up old wounds that he did not inflict. I can't think of any other crimes where we take this approach; we always focus on what the criminal did to the victim, and I believe that makes more sense than trying to gauge the victim's loved one's trauma levels and punishing the criminal accordingly.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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