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Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
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I'm talking about poisons in meat, not vegetables


then can both kill you, so why mince words on the subject? This DDT and Pesticide covered ear of corn is just a likely to kill me as this hormone injected chicken breast so why distinguish?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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I'm talking about poisons in meat, not vegetables. MEAT; by the way vegetarianism isn't just all about vegetables. Damn ignorant people....



They still have the right to point out that poisons are not just attributed to meat.

There are chemicals in water, for instance, that wreck havoc on animal populations, that turn them into hermaphrodites.

There are chemicals in food, water, household items that cause birth defects in humans and animals.


And yeah, vegetarianism isn't about just vegetables. However, if you care about hurting animals, why not care about other chemicals in other sources that hurt humans as well? That should be the ultimate goal of everybody-- helping get rid of chemicals that hurt everybody-- human and animal-- as well as educating about the harmful effects, how they are caused, and how to prevent them.


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I'm talking about poisons in meat, not vegetables. MEAT; by the way vegetarianism isn't just all about vegetables. Damn ignorant people....


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Im talking about the poisons here


Okay, let's talk about DDT and all the wonderful other poisions and pesticides they put on your oh so delicous vegetables. Let's talk about the hormones and genetic modifications done to vegetable crops to make them grow larger and faster. What about those poisons that they do put in your salad! Hell at least you always cook meat which nutrilizes a lot of those poisons and bacteria that will hurt you


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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And YouthVoice I get your point. This is pointless to keep talking about who was addressing who...


Good, I'm glad you get my point.


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Amp honeslty I dont get bothered by it. Keep going. Cause I dont spend every minute of my life wasting it on what other think of me. They can shout it from the rooftopes till the whole world knows, I still wont care. I have bigger things not better things with meaning to care about. I'm just saying it's getting old. And by the way Im talking about the poisons here not the damn meat. POISIONS! THAT THEY POSSIBLY OR DO PUT IN YOU FOOD! And YouthVoice I get your point. This is pointless to keep talking about who was addressing who...


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Umm sweetie I have been untill YOU came in.


Hm, you're misunderstanding me. I'm too tired right now to try to explain it to you. I'll come back later.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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And amp seriously stop antagonizing me.


Heh someone is easily bothered when her blatant flaws are challenged. Seriously learn how to read, better than half your last posts with EG have almost no relation to the questions she asked, or your points had no actual relationship to the points EG has made because you apparently can barely read.

Your whole tangent as summed up here:

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Okay be really honest with me here..did at any point the Alaskan Natives inject their raw meat with cancer causing poisons to make them grow bigger faster? If not then how can you say that they have adapt to these poisons.


Not only did no one mention such poisons nor did EG ever say that. The argument you had been making was that we could get sick from food borne bacteria as EG pointed out here:

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Yeah it is. You're just playing dumb right now. One of your arguments (and PETA's) against eating meat has been that we can get sick from it.


So for those of us who can read, you come out looking like one of those inane rambling people who walk around with signs saying "the end is near" and asking for spare change.

Edit: Damn, EG beat me to it.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Notice how your about the only one saying this...


Actually, a few of us came to this conclusion outside of YN. He may be the only one saying it, but many of us agree. Your ability to comprehend what you read is laughable to say the least.

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But from acording to what EG said Alaska is perfect. Enviromentaly and just perfect in all ways.


I never said that. Reading comprehension again. Alaska has it's problems, but our enviroment is much healthier in comparison to the other states.
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Umm sweetie I have been untill YOU came in. And amp seriously stop antagonizing me. Notice how your about the only one saying this...


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Nope. You quoted mine and responded. Therefore, you were addressing mine. Sorry kid.


and it all comes full circle back to veggie's issue with reading comprehension


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Well I have been addressing EG's statement not yours. Wink


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But from acording to what EG said Alaska is perfect.


Hm, I was talking to you, not her. I'm only addressing your statement. Wink


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But I just want to know did they ever inject poisions in their meat. And if not then how can you say that they adapted to those poisions.


Okay let's go over this lovely 3rd grade concept known as reading comprehension...


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Originally posted by YouthVoice:
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I said why would I car about Alaska, i didn't say why would I care about the world. I acctually do. I care about the world, not jsut the envriroment but i also believe that we can all live together in peace and harmony.


Um...Alaska is part of the world. At least the last time I checked it was. Wink


But from acording to what EG said Alaska is perfect. Enviromentaly and just perfect in all ways. And bare with me amp person I tend to keep going when Im fighting with my mom. She's just nevermind anyways. But I just want to know did they ever inject poisions in their meat. And if not then how can you say that they adapted to those poisions.


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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Originally posted by VegetarianWithACause:
Okay be really honest with me here..did at any point the Alaskan Natives inject their raw meat with cancer causing poisons to make them grow bigger faster? If not then how can you say that they have adapt to these poisons.


I said. They. Are. Immune. To. Food. Born. Illnesses. As in, BACTERIA. Eskimo food is completely clean of man-made chemicals.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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the best local produce and meats


amen!

and I'd tear apart veggie's latest post but it's so confusing and from what I can tell inane as to render conventional analysis


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I said why would I car about Alaska, i didn't say why would I care about the world. I acctually do. I care about the world, not jsut the envriroment but i also believe that we can all live together in peace and harmony.


Um...Alaska is part of the world. At least the last time I checked it was. Wink


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Okay be really honest with me here..did at any point the Alaskan Natives inject their raw meat with cancer causing poisons to make them grow bigger faster? If not then how can you say that they have adapt to these poisons. So yeah I care a little bit more about california than I do alaska. You said the air quality is great in Alaska that it is perfect. Well it certainly seem that Alaska, unlike Cali, is okay with the enviroment. So your not worried and neither am I. I said why would I car about Alaska, i didn't say why would I care about the world. I acctually do. I care about the world, not jsut the envriroment but i also believe that we can all live together in peace and harmony. And I know I'm gonna end up wishing i never said those words but i really do.


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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Wow, that males alot of sense...like the sentance i just said is a lie.


You're right, it does make a lot of sense. Because if you hunt or raise your own food, you eliminate the factory, the energy used to fuel the trucks/trains that transport it, and you cut out all chemicals and hormones and whatnot. And the animal has the chance to have a good, cruel-free life before it is killed humanely and eaten. With barbeque sauce. And parsley.


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if not then you probably don't care that much about your state.


I love Alaska more than anything. But, I don't use that as an excuse to being ignorant of the rest of the world. Plus, I'm not worried about Alaska since we have the best air quality, millions of square miles of scarcely touched forests, cleanest rivers, the best local produce and meats, etc.

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Eskimos hmm no nothing realy efective to me.


Yeah it is. You're just playing dumb right now. One of your arguments (and PETA's) against eating meat has been that we can get sick from it. Eskimos are stone cold evidence that you're only absorbing PETA facts and not doing your own research. Again, good job. Smile
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