so what's the deal we know that the planet went in to deep freeze for a while but what do we really know about this rather cold period of our history? any theorys on how this affected man's evolution, the domestication of wolves? the use of fire?

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Originally posted by Darthrevan:
Yes, but that's easy. The center of the earth is hotter than that. I'm talking about the center, or the outer layer. And don't tell me nuclear bombs, because that's not fire.

Well oxidation can't physically reach temperatures that high, so "fire" can't get that hot. However we make plasmas and other extremely hot substances on an almost everyday basis. We can't violate the laws of phyiscs but we have pushed them almost to thier limits.

It doesn't burn it. It basically vaporizes it.

creating energy in the form of energy which immolates (or burns to a serious crisp) everything with in a certain radius

Errr...Two atoms being torn apart?

Nuclear fission?

what is a blinding explosion of death then? water?

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Originally posted by DrStrangelove:
Yes?

Actually we've exceeded the tempreature of the surface of the sun.

Why is my first post in so long on such an innane subject? This is how my comebacks always play out, ha.

Yes, but that's easy. The center of the earth is hotter than that. I'm talking about the center, or the outer layer. And don't tell me nuclear bombs, because that's not fire.

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Originally posted by Darthrevan:

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Originally posted by ampmaster:
make fires so hot they appoach the temprature of the sun.

No.

Yes?

Actually we've exceeded the tempreature of the surface of the sun.

Why is my first post in so long on such an innane subject? This is how my comebacks always play out, ha.

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Originally posted by ampmaster:
make fires so hot they appoach the temprature of the sun.

No.

Damn right. If the early humans had lighters or matches, you can be very sure a lot more progress would've been made a lot sooner.

Fire + water = steam power. Steam power = industrial revolution.

Oh but fire does change we can now refine and control and shape fire and make fires so hot they appoach the temprature of the sun. and fire itself lives and breathes and must be carefully controlled or it destorys just about everything it touches

Well since I dont believe in evolution I wont commentate on that part.

I dont think that the ice age would affect fire. Fire is Fire. It cant change or progress.

I think the only good thing about the ice age is that it made a really good movie and I am looking forward to part 2 .

sweet

nope just a history buff like me and the rest of people like us

Lol, anytime! Iiiii'm a geek.

thank you for explainging terpe!

The "ice age" we commonly refer to as the ice age didn't reach the United States. In fact, it just graced the tops by Wisconsin, Montana, etc. It touched some of the East Coast, and went down to about Iowa. But even in between these glaciers, there were interglacier spots where the climates were mild. So these early humans used the skins of the tough ice age animals to keep warm, and kept moving to places that were less cold. The first real nomads. And also, they came toward the end of the real ice age. About 12,000 years ago.

As for the evolution of man, it did very little. The Neanderthals were the only of mankind to have to deal with the real ice age, and they aren't related to us at all. When they came in contact with early humans, they began to die out rather quickly. We've got no evidence to support that they mated with early humans. (Probably because they were the Yahoos of the time.)

Annnnnd dogs became domesticated probably because humans saw them as a garbage disposal, and because wolves/dogs could hear predators long before we could. And by natural selection, we kept those that were tamer.

Fire was not a human invention. It was a naturally occurring incident that ancient humans looked at and went, "OOOOH." Then they began to cook food, probably by eating an already scorched piece of meat and realizing it was easier to chew. Then they realized that the fire made things warm. So, they looked for ways to make this fire, and eventually got it down to a science. Two sticks or two stones and something that catches fire.

The only awesome thing to come out of this ice age? The preserved remains of ancient humans and animals that can really help us shed some light on what the hell went on before we were able to put it down.

im gonna add to your question because it sounds interesting and i'd like to know... there was people on north america before the ice age correct? did they die when it got too cold, later replaced by the people who came to america via alaska? were they the prehistoric humans they dig up or were there no people at all and the bones are post ice age?