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Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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I would like to see proof on the workplace one. I haven't seen or heard it in any of the Equal-Opportunity-Employment announcements or on the posters.


My bad. I had assumed the government was reasonable enough to pass such a bill, but the one I was thinking about (ENDA) stalled in Congress years ago.


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Registered: June 02, 2004
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I understand 100% what you are talking about. I am not open about being gay either. I am too afraid that society will torture me and make fun of me. I haven't even told my family.



Family is going to be the hardest. I don't know from experience about actually telling them, but the guilt eats you from the inside out and it can be even more difficult if you are dependent on them and scared of any homophobic backlash. Definitely.

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Actually, the government prohibits discrimination against homosexuals in the workplace and at school. And schools have their own anti-bullying policies to keep people from harassing anyone, including homosexuals.


I would like to see proof on the workplace one. I haven't seen or heard it in any of the Equal-Opportunity-Employment announcements or on the posters.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Actually, the government prohibits discrimination against homosexuals in the workplace and at school. And schools have their own anti-bullying policies to keep people from harassing anyone, including homosexuals.

People have a right to be whatever they are, in public and in private. And the government respects that (at least for now). Good thing we follow the constitution and not the Bible as law, right?


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 23, 2006
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so let me ask you this crazyboy dod you tell your parents and how many gay ppl do you know of
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Registered: March 23, 2006
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ok let me ask all of yall and any one reading how do you think the government haddles gay or bi's cause it being an whole public thing isnt right thats what i think. and have you ever notice that theres nothing in the schools code of conduct that protects gay what do you think about thet[COLOR:PINK]hey[/COLOR Confused
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Society as a whole will not torture you. Give it some time and as time passes you will mostly become more comfortable in telling people.


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Registered: October 23, 2005
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I understand 100% what you are talking about. I am not open about being gay either. I am too afraid that society will torture me and make fun of me. I haven't even told my family.
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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Originally posted by mac123:
How funny that everybody considers you an extreme right wing. Hmmm. Wink

Uh, thats not a stereotype.


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Registered: July 28, 2003
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-----"""Haha, I go to a public high school run by SOG. I've gone through religious, racial, and sexual orientation tolerance training"""---

Well then, either your teachers were horrible, or you didn't learn anything from them. I still find your dislike of homosexuality odd, mostly because of how unreasonable it is. It's amusing when you or people like you make generalizations about gays or profess your dislike for them simply because of how wrong I know you are, having actual experience and knowledge about my own community. It's about the equivalent of being an American, and hearing Al-Jazeera accuse America of being un-democratic and saying it must be destroyed because Allah demands it. And as others have pointed out, if you dislike gays, you are a homophobe. There are several reasons why it is a fitting term, such as the fact that "dislike" is included in the definition of homophobia, phobia itself connotates dislike or fear, and even the fact that anti-gay feelings are often based in discomfort or fear of the unknown.


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Registered: January 12, 2005
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"Them." How wonderful of you stereotype.

Stereotypes don't appear out of thin air.
No, they don't. How funny that everybody considers you an extreme right wing. Hmmm. Wink


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Registered: January 12, 2005
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Originally posted by reactionary05:

Not so much as blaming, but defending against. Can you imagine, honestly think about a world without war run by humans. I shudder at the thought. No resistance to trynny, no freedom fighters. Just an authortarian one world government that dominates the world in the name of "peace". Is that your idea of a peaceful world?
Your assuming all of that. It's not a fact at all.
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One nation, one people, sweetheart.
History has proven this false too many times to even begin to count.


Indecision may or may not be my problem
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Phobia means fear or aversion. It's a Neologism.



aye. It's like Necrophila. Literally, "Love of death." This could apply to many people. It doesn't mean "I really really like ****ing dead people." They are scientific terms that cannot be taken literally.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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You guys would rather have tons of people with different skin color and the same thought patterns.


Would you stop making assumptions about us? My definition of diversity is all people. Conservative, liberal, moderate, black, white, red, gay, straight, muslim, christian, buddhist, etc. That is diversity. And that's what makes America beautiful.

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So why is it called homophobia?


Phobia means fear or aversion. It's a Neologism.

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I've gone through religious, racial, and sexual orientation tolerance training, and you're calling me brainwashed?


Yes, I am. Your mind is narrow. Your mind has been poisoned by hateful morons who don't know the true meaning of the Teachings of Christ. Somewhere in the bible it says that those who hate are in the dark, while those that love are in the light. I'm in the light, reactionary. And that is friggin sad.

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gay special rights.


Not special.

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Stereotypes don't appear out of thin air.


Stereotypes are created by narrow-minded fools like yourself. They see one or a few people of a certain group act a certain way and assume all of them do it.
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Just an authortarian one world government that dominates the world in the name of "peace".


Kind of like that Christian theocracy you keep ranting on about?

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You guys would rather have tons of people with different skin color and the same thought patterns.


I see. So it's perfectly all right for you to want everyone to conform to your beliefs? You're sounding awfully hypocritical, reactionary.

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So why is it called homophobia?


Ever picked up a dictionary? Of course not. A phobia is defined as the fear or intense dislike of something. You dislike homosexuals. Therefore you are a homophobe. Duh.

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Because I see a tiny minority trying to impose its will on the majority on gay special rights. The majority has over and over and over again: no special rights for ****.


*sigh* You just don't get it do you? Fine, I'll explain once more: no one is trying to get homosexuals "special" rights. Just the same rights that heteros have. Is that too much to ask? Oh, right, I forgot. It is because the Bible says so.

And freedom, I believe the term you're looking for is heterosexism, the belief that heterosexuals are better than non-heterosexuals.


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Registered: June 02, 2004
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So why is it called homophobia?


I will try to save north, though I doubt I'll live up to north's ability. Basically it's semantics. So there. It's all reference. Racist is defined by the meaning for any sort of superior-thoughts or feeling. Our society doesn't have a term for the sort of superior thoughts or feelings due to another's sexual orientation or sexuality even.

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I've gone through religious, racial, and sexual orientation tolerance training, and you're calling me brainwashed?


That doesn't prove ****, even if you have. Obviously... Considering you later use the f-word.

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Because I see a tiny minority trying to impose its will on the majority on gay special rights.


The "tiny" minority at least the double the number of Hispanic/Latino Americans in the 2000 US Census? Relatively the same as all non-Hispanic whites over 65? Yeah, that's a REAL TINY minority...

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The majority has over and over and over again: no special rights for ****.


First of all, you're pretty idiotic. Look at your sentence again. Simple proofreading could have prevented miscommunication. The way I see it though, you'll need proof for whatever the **** you're trying to tell us.

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Stereotypes don't appear out of thin air.


Oh, right, you're just another male ENFORCING them. Gotcha. Dumba$$.


Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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So why is it called homophobia?



shall I go into a coffee fueled sermon on the origins of mideval greek from the Dorian invasions to the fall of Constantinople then?

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Is that your idea of a peaceful world?


our idea of a peaceful world is one without the imperialist taint of America.

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Haha, I go to a public high school run by SOG. I've gone through religious, racial, and sexual orientation tolerance training, and you're calling me brainwashed?



well, someone did a good job then. Those classes didn't seem to work. You are the happy pet of the Exxon Coorperation.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Forever blaming the liberal anti-war machine, aren't you reactionary?

Not so much as blaming, but defending against. Can you imagine, honestly think about a world without war run by humans. I shudder at the thought. No resistance to trynny, no freedom fighters. Just an authortarian one world government that dominates the world in the name of "peace". Is that your idea of a peaceful world?

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By the way, I don't know where you got that skewed idea of "ethnic but not thought" diversity.

I know where. You guys would rather have tons of people with different skin color and the same thought patterns. That why so many lawyers are liberals. If you can't trust the people to make "progressive" decisions, you can always overturn it.

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Been reading too much Ann Coulter, have we?

never have, never will. Boring.

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Homophobia refers not so much to fear but to hatred.

So why is it called homophobia?

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That's pretty funny coming from the most brain-washed person I have ever seen.

Haha, I go to a public high school run by SOG. I've gone through religious, racial, and sexual orientation tolerance training, and you're calling me brainwashed?

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Well, we better have you banned. Seeing as how you hate diversity. Dumb*ss.

One nation, one people, sweetheart.

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And reactionary, I'd like to know why.

Because I see a tiny minority trying to impose its will on the majority on gay special rights. The majority has over and over and over again: no special rights for ****.

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"Them." How wonderful of you stereotype.

Stereotypes don't appear out of thin air.


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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Time? Hmm... What week was it for? Yogore, Emerson has a gay population? I hadn't heard that.


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Registered: January 15, 2003
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You know I just can't stand by while the liberals wash brains.


That's pretty funny coming from the most brain-washed person I have ever seen.

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Diversity is perversity.


Well, we better have you banned. Seeing as how you hate diversity. Dumb*ss.
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Registered: April 03, 2004
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Was it Time magazine? I read that. Big Grin


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