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Picture of Meagan87
Registered: May 07, 2003
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I don't know...I like potatoes with meat...baked potatoes, french fries, mashed potatoes...


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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Coleslaw, not tossed salad. Well, maybe a good salad topped with strawberry and cheese...


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Some of these people want to have animals BEATEN to death so that they


nope I think most of us shoot them for a meal

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would you like to be beaten to death? or anally electrocuted? or even skinned alive


excellent spouting of animal rights nut job propaganda

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animals have rights and feelings


Animals have no rights according to the law everything in it's natural state follows which is kill or be killed, you get tough or you become lunch so when i kill an animal it's perfectly within both of our rights I am superior so I can kill and eat what ever I happen to want to make a meal out of and the beast is inferior so it has the right to toughen up so I can't kill or eat it or to served on a plate with BBQ sauce and and a nice tossed salad with baked potato


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Registered: June 08, 2006
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animal rights are just as important as anything else going on right now. animals have rights and feelings just as a human would.
would you like to be beaten to death? or anally electrocuted? or even skinned alive? to be made into a fur coat or a side dish.
have you ever considered the thought that animals feel pain just as easily as humans can and do?


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Registered: March 31, 2006
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Oh MAN!! Some of these people want to have animals BEATEN to death so that they can EAT THEM?!! No way chikitas and chikitos!! How would YOU like to be eaten and slaughtered just so a family oculd serve you on a plate with green beans???!!! Lordie!! Some of you don't know the meaning of RIGHTS!! Frown I seriosly feel sorry for you guys.


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Registered: May 03, 2003
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Ok, so abusing a pet is a felon, Visions.

What if I had a pet grasshopper? What if I then pulled off all of its legs one by one and then its wings, and then drove a hot pin through its abdomen? Grasshoppers are animals. And it was my pet. That is cruelty to animals. A felon you say? I can go to jail for killing a grasshopper? Get real. Insects are animals too, look at any taxonomic tree.

If you want to advocate animal rights, stop thinking only about the cute animals. You're being biased.


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Registered: August 10, 2005
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FIrst of animals don't have a similar DNA so if they find a cure it probably isnt going to be acurrate. How would any of you feel if you were to go through painful tesst to find a cure for FIV (the feline HIV). Think about that. A few years ago on the eastern US labador retrievers and those mixed with it were stolen many most suspect they were to be tested on like they were nothing. that is a crime. It's theft. I was a victim of this insanity she wasn't a year old yet how would you if in the future you had a baby that was kinapped for the well being of animals that the child would go through excruciating you wouldn't wont would you. my dogs and cats are my babies my best friends so just imagine how I felt if the suspicions were true can you imagine the pain emotionally I went through and the pain physically she went through or mite even still be going through and what about the testing for make up and shampoo is that more important than the well being of innocent animals maybe some of you need a reality check animals are just as important they will help you if you them they maybe talk or have opposable thumbs but they love all the same. Also we needed to reduce pollution for ourselves too


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Registered: July 20, 2005
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I always want to reply to luvabug. For one, abusing a pet is already a felon.You said "but its ridiculous to give them rights b/c they wont even kno they have any."..Well the thing is this keeps people from harming them. That's why it's not ridiculous. You believe abortion isnt right. But why give something that right that they wouldnt even know they had. See it's just what you said(thanks for making yourself into a hypocite). Once again human being or animal it's a life. So giving them rights is keeping them from being harmed.


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Registered: July 20, 2005
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I agree with Veganqueen..Animals should never be treated like that.Each day animals are tested on.Some are even tested on FOR THEIR OWN FOOD.Iams tortures animals day in and day out(www.iamscruelty.com)What good is that to a human being? Not quite sure if you have gotten the memo.But animals have feelings to they feel pain just like a human does that you believe is still ok. They feel so much pain and are injected with things that could and have killed many of them. Yes, you say just glad it's not a human being.Then again this was a life they took away without thinking twice about it.


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Registered: July 13, 2004
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I think animal rights are very important. I don't think it is right for people to mistreat animals, they do have feelings. People who hurt or kill another living being for fun need to get help. I don't really have a problem with people who eat meat, but I don't like meat, I'm a vegetarian. I think it must take alot of will power to be vegan.Animals are our friends Smile


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Registered: December 14, 2003
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but whats the difference between being veggie and vegan?

I'm assuming she meant vegetarian, which means you don't eat meat or by-products of meat (like gelatin, which is made by boiling animal bones, skin and other body parts). A vegan doesn't eat meat, dairy products or eggs or any other avoidable animal ingredient. Ethical vegans usually don't wear fur, leather, silk or wool; since animals are harmed in the making of them.
I didn't have the time to look at all 19 pages of this so I don't know if anyone's already said this so sorry if somebody has. If you want to learn more about the reasoning and philosophy behind animal rights, read Animal Liberation by Peter Singer. It was the book that started the modern animal rights movement. (it was first published in 1975, it has been revised two times) Try looking for it at your local library. Also check out this website for more info on animal rights: http://www.animal-rights.com/
Yes, I am an ARA (Animal Rights Activist) and a vegetarian BTW, just so you don't feel so alone Smile


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Registered: August 29, 2004
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Animals have beating hearts, and complex brains, almost like ours. They feel emotions. They MATTER!


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Registered: October 13, 2003
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Testing products is crazy on animals. They have feelings and are practicly helpless when it comes to testing on them. They also don't deal with the products the same way. Ex:chocolate-fatal to dogs, humans love it. There are deffinently many differences.
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Registered: July 16, 2003
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U R Welcome!!!!

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Registered: January 16, 2003
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Thanks!

sweet day. Big Grin
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Registered: July 16, 2003
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i don't want ppl to die, so maybe that testing is ok, but putting on make-up or testing other things like that is what i think is cruel. and i agree with YouthVoice!!!! And abusing is also very cruel!!!!!!!!!!!
Registered: August 06, 2003
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as for killing animals for food...
they were put here for our food. hell, without animals, our population would be grossly diminished.
as for med testing...
would you rather a 9 year old girl die of Leukemia because you felt that testing cures on rats was immoral?
as for abusing animals...
it should be illegal to abuse an animal. i know some people hit their dogs to teach them a lesson, but you can only go so far. doing real damage to an animal-on purpose- and neglecting to give them care is cruel and unusual punishment.

one more point: some people out there who see a half alive racoon on the side of the road would drive their car over them to stop the suffering. wouldn't you?
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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Well, animal rights were created for many reasons.
One of them I believe is because...well...let me give you an example:

If you have a dog in your house and it is in your property then it will be illegal for someone to come and kick him or abuse him, this is because he is abusing your property(because you own him). But what about those animals that do not have an owner or wild animals. Is it okay for someone to abuse them just because they do not have someone to claim them or defend them?

Well, this is one of the reasons why animal rights were created.

sweet day. Big Grin
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Registered: April 24, 2003
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well i think that animals shouldnt be abused or used for certain kinds of testing... but its ridiculous to give them rights b/c they wont even kno they have any.
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Registered: July 16, 2003
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It depends!!!!!! do u belive in animal rights? if u do then no i'm not but if u don't then yes.
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