Why should we be different?

The only sensible response is cannibalism. You don't have to murder the people, but after that it's just food.

Consistency people, consistency...

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We're made out of meat too, so are we meant to be eaten

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I dont care if you eat me

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Really? How is someone eating vegetables from their garden their entire life responsible for killing animals?

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How does that vegan eat out of the growing season?

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If were not supposed to eat Animals why are they made out of Meat?

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We're made out of meat too, so are we meant to be eaten?

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YES vegetarian and vegan diets ARE responsible for millions of animal deaths as well as horrible suffering.. do you deny this?

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Really? How is someone eating vegetables from their garden their entire life responsible for killing animals?

I guess you might be right about the animal rights/welfare thing, but I was referring to animal cruelty in general. Doesn't that fall under animal rights as well???

hey iceland.. you might have more knowledge on the other thread we have been debating on, but this one is all me.. YES vegetarian and vegan diets ARE responsible for millions of animal deaths as well as horrible suffering.. do you deny this? if so you have no clue about what you are saying.. granted i think desert eagle talks trash but he was right about that part..

""There's nothing wrong with saying we can't senselessly kill animals in cruel ways. Thus animal rights is justified.""

see here... you are confusing animal rights with animal welfare, which seems to be a common problem.. not senselessly killing animals in a cruel way is animal welfare... not ever killing them at all ever is animal rights.. there is a difference.. but then again animal rights makes no sense and is full of lies and hypocritical ideas and people.

here is something funny to think about.. animal rights is AGAINST animals in entertainment, yet animal rights groups PRAISE movies like legally blonde 2 because they were about someone fighting for animal rights.. you would think they would be against that movie because some of its main stars were animals in entertainment.. i guess they are only against it when it does not involve them...
can you say hypocrite?

Did you actually imply that vegetarians are the ones who slaughter animals? That's just not true...



And there is a problem when the human population of the earth suddenly explodes, blanketing the earth, razing forests and wreaking havoc on the entire planet's ecosystem.

There's nothing wrong with saying we can't senselessly kill animals in cruel ways. Thus animal rights is justified.

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If were not supposed to eat Animals why are they made out of Meat?

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Oh and Cows arn't going to find a cure for cancer.

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Screw animal rights. Animals don't get rights, and htey don't need them. When you try to give animals the rights of humans, its just insane. Eating animals is 100% natural, its what they were meant for. Who gives a damn how they're killed? The more they're beat, the better we eat. Animals serve one purpose in life if we don't kill them, and that's to eat. "Save the animals so they can EAT!". Yeah, right. People who don't eat meat just make the animal's death pointless. Besides, vegetarians only protest killing animals when its convenient. They KNOW that thousands of animals (rabbits, voles, moles, etc.) are killed during the harvesting of grains. And they KNOW that we often sponser hunts to cut down on animals (like deer) so they dont eat our crops. If they really were concerned about killing animals, they would buy their own land and harvest their own vegetables. There is NOTHING wrong with eating meat, so dig in.

man... i can't believe i missed all of this!!!
i see the AR wackos still aren't making anysense..
i also see that people are still confusing animal rights with animal welfare... if i only had time to go back and address all the BS spouted off in here.. but i would be here for days straight..

my favorite is all the vegans that don't grasp the fact that their diet causes more suffering in the animals it kills than a meat eaters diet does.. also to the person that is clueless about animal training.. you are referring to an ANKUS or bull hook.. and it is not used to beat or tear at elephants skin.. another PETA lie.. true a few idiots do it, but not the majority of trainers..

oh and yes, monkeys and apes of certain spoecies do kill for no real reason.. they will also envade other animals territory just to attack them yet never use the animals land for anything..

man i got to keep checking on this thread...

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The justification of slavery was that blacks had no sense, no logic, no reason. Therefore the mistreatment of them was fine. Infact slave owners didn't view it as mistreatment, they viewed it as the execution of biblical texts. Antebellum south referred to the the bible to justify slavery.

Today its considered fine to mistreatment animals (slaughter them for food) because " they can't reason nor can they talk". They can't express their pain to us in words therefore, that must mean that their is NO pain for them to exress! We even justify the unhealthy diet meat by the biblical texts " Dominion over animals".


despite how much you try to connect the two, slavery and animals have absolutly nothing to do with each other. yes, slavery was very wrong. people get that message. abusing animals is wrong, people get that message too. im very aware that animals can feel pain, and that they have feelings, but its just ridiculous for them to have equal rights as us!

and if we dont kill animals for food..what are we going to eat??? plants?? yes...we'll eat plants but the thing is, if the entire world is on a vegan diet, theyre wont be any vegetaion left. and some people cant live without meat. i kno someone who tried to become a vegan but after 2 weeks she would break out in hives from the lack of meat. to stop slaughtering animals and to give them equal rights is just plain stupid, especially when they wont even be able to acknowledge the fact that they have rights.

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Today its considered fine to mistreatment animals (slaughter them for food) because " they can't reason nor can they talk". They can't express their pain to us in words therefore, that must mean that their is NO pain for them to exress! We even justify the unhealthy diet meat by the biblical texts " Dominion over animals".

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Oh and Cows arn't going to find a cure for cancer.

The justification of slavery was that blacks had no sense, no logic, no reason. Therefore the mistreatment of them was fine. Infact slave owners didn't view it as mistreatment, they viewed it as the execution of biblical texts. Antebellum south referred to the the bible to justify slavery.

Today its considered fine to mistreatment animals (slaughter them for food) because " they can't reason nor can they talk". They can't express their pain to us in words therefore, that must mean that their is NO pain for them to exress! We even justify the unhealthy diet meat by the biblical texts " Dominion over animals".

first of all I am black. Second of all, I wasn't saying blacks were animals. The point of that quote, and its relevance to our message board is this : In the 1880's people viewed blacks as being incapable of reason, or communication skills. Even with this misconception, the Jeremy Bentham focused on what was most important. THe slaves ability to feel. That's what I think we should do nowadays for animals. Their ability to express their feelings to us in words is inconsequential. Whats more important, is if they can feel pain. Which they can. Because of this, we need to widen our circle of compassion for these beings. On the sole basis of their sentience! YOu must remember many mentally incapacitated people can't reason or express their pain in words( only cries, grunts or facial expressions, which might "reduce" their communication skills to that of an animal). Even though they can't perform this tasks, that doesn't decrease their level of sentience. They can still be happy, sad, in pain or comfortable. Experimenters don't resort to testing products on the mentally incapacitated, right? Of course not, because they STILL feel pain regardless of their developmental inabilities.

YOu are exactly right we are the dominant spices on this planet

i believe there is a line between animal rites and just being stupid. im not one of those ppl who wont eat a burger cuz it came from a cow, but i believe you shouldnt beat animals and just basically treat them really badly. i think its ok to eat meat cuz thats what God put animals here for, just dont mistreat them. thats not cool for them.

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No, it's ignorant people like u who are the reason for the rise in hate crimes. *ta*ta


ok yes i am ignorant but i wouldnt commit a crime... yer just bein silly

No, it's ignorant people like u who are the reason for the rise in hate crimes. *ta*ta
-Danielle SMILE BRIGHTLY

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You poeple who don't get it make this world miserable!



its ppl like you who fill our mental hospitals...