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Picture of norrow
Registered: October 30, 2002
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I have been confused about the topic system until now. Please ignre my likewise titled topic in this formum.

So far, I have been getting that homosexuality is a sin because it is not the normal sexual orientation. Stop me when I'm wrong, or if you have a different reason.

I would have to agree that homosexuality is abnormal. But I just mean that it's not the norm - I don't mean that it is unnatrual.

My question is: does homosexuality hurt anybody besides Jesus or God? Is there any reason to say that it is a crime or than that the bible says so?

If homosexuality is a sin simply because it is unusual, then I hereby declare lefthandedness, vegetarianism and mismatched socks-wearing to be equivalent sins and punished accordingly.
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Originally posted by norrow:
If homosexuality is a sin simply because it is unusual, then I hereby declare lefthandedness, vegetarianism and mismatched socks-wearing to be equivalent sins and punished accordingly.


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Registered: December 27, 2006
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I don't say this often...but I have no idea what you just said.


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Registered: February 10, 2008
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Originally posted by Shade:
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I don't see really what people's problem with flaunting it is... i mean I don't becuz it'll only bring be grief becuz i'm also fat, but i think that if someone wants to bring that upon themselves, let them do it...

Stop thinking on a personal level for a minute and think what it will do to everyone else. It will bring the whole "community" grief. If you're open with your sexuality, you represent the whole of gay people. Whether you know it or not, and whether you like it or not.


how one earth will it bring grief i no a firend wo was really toung n hrad spoke with a porper sheffiled accent b4 he came out but now he's completly diffrent he has i new set of firends his old one's were a bit homophobic he specks diffrent some time spet 4 wen he's shouting he weres pink and brafs about all the new colothes and stuff he bought but it's dosen't bring me grief nor dose it ne1 eles


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Registered: February 10, 2008
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Well, the thing is though the people who flaunt purposefully think they're doing the right thing or something of the sorts...


Why would they think that? Normally people don't like people who flaunt.

My previous post is worded weird so it doesn't say what I mean.

I hate when people change because they came out.


peopel don't change because they came but becuase they acting diffrent to cover up to fact they were glbt


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Registered: December 27, 2006
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But I got the impression that she doesn't think they HAVE a mental disorder, she's saying you should treat them according to the "fact" that they are gay because their genes make them that way.

At least that's what I got out of it. *shrugs*

People shouldn't throw around the words "biological mutation." Ah well.

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Registered: October 22, 2007
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Originally posted by independenceindividuality:
No, being gay isn't a choice - just as being staright isn't one. Everyone has hormones, but whether or not they act on them is the difference. Your actions defy morality, not your thoughts or urges.

you lost me at your actions and who are we to tell every one how to live there lives and that ther choices (if it is a choice) is the wrong one


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Registered: June 25, 2008
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No, being gay isn't a choice - just as being staright isn't one. Everyone has hormones, but whether or not they act on them is the difference. Your actions defy morality, not your thoughts or urges.
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Registered: October 22, 2007
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none the less i have friends that are glbt so seeing glbt people doesnt offend me considering i was there for one of my friends when he came out of the "closet".


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Registered: February 27, 2003
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Shade, I do believe that Chelsea meant "treated" as in how you treat your friends, not in the medical sense.

Well in that case, that's the wrong way to show respect to people you care about. Believing they have a mental disorder when it's been proven it's not, is not just an outrageous personal opinion, but showing of a bad friendship.

But I got the impression that she doesn't think they HAVE a mental disorder, she's saying you should treat them according to the "fact" that they are gay because their genes make them that way.

At least that's what I got out of it. *shrugs*


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: December 27, 2006
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Shade, I do believe that Chelsea meant "treated" as in how you treat your friends, not in the medical sense.

Well in that case, that's the wrong way to show respect to people you care about. Believing they have a mental disorder when it's been proven it's not, is not just an outrageous personal opinion, but showing of a bad friendship.


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i believe that homosexuality is not just a choice, but i biological mutation and that it should be treated as such.

People have (officially) stopped thinking like that. Homosexuality was taken out of the DSM as a mental disorder years ago.

Shade, I do believe that Chelsea meant "treated" as in how you treat your friends, not in the medical sense.

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so gays and lesbians are there own race now?

Slash, I'm fairly sure that's not what she meant either. I think she was comparing the evils of racism with the evils of homophobia, and saying that racism is now considered by the majority of society to be bad and why shouldn't homophobia be treated the same way.

Chelsea, if what I said above isn't true please feel free to correct me. Also, please try to avoid double posts, it clogs up the boards. The little icon with a pencil eraser in the top right of your post lets you edit it, if you forget something.


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: October 22, 2007
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Originally posted by ChelseaGx0:
i believe that homosexuality is not just a choice, but i biological mutation and that it should be treated as such. I don't believe that it should be banned or looked down upon. That is being prejudice, what is the difference between being homophobic and rascist? We are all human, we all have emotions, we all logic and reason.. so why is it that suddle differences in the preferances of relationships classify something as 'wrong'?


so gays and lesbians are there own race now? Confused Eek


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Registered: December 27, 2006
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i believe that homosexuality is not just a choice, but i biological mutation and that it should be treated as such.

People have (officially) stopped thinking like that. Homosexuality was taken out of the DSM as a mental disorder years ago.


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Registered: June 03, 2008
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I do not agree with the comments that claim homosexuality in the media sends the wrong message to kids. I do not follow whatever I see on MTV or other television shows. Why would someone's choice of who they prefer to date, affect my own? I have my own mind, I don't plan to 'turn lesbian' because I once saw a lesbian on my favorite show.
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i believe that homosexuality is not just a choice, but i biological mutation and that it should be treated as such. I don't believe that it should be banned or looked down upon. That is being prejudice, what is the difference between being homophobic and rascist? We are all human, we all have emotions, we all logic and reason.. so why is it that suddle differences in the preferances of relationships classify something as 'wrong'?
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Registered: June 13, 2008
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If you're in love, it shouldn't matter if it's a girl or a boy you're in love with. Love is love, no matter what the circumstances! I don't personally see anything wrong or immoral about 2 girls or 2 boys being in love. Do some people seriously believe that someone who is GLBT woke up one morning and decided, "Hey! I think I'm gonna be gay/lesbian/bi/transexual!" A lot of my friends are GLBT, and it took a while for most of them to come to terms with their sexuality! We should be supportive of love, any kind of love, not hate it because it's different.
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homosexuality is just plain wrong.


How is it wrong?


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Registered: June 10, 2008
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I don't have anything against gay people, except for they are gay. I'm sry if I offend anybody but homosexuality is just plain wrong.
When is someone going to step up and say it. Just because so many people are gay doesn't mean that it is okay, and we as people should know better.If it is wrong, ITS WRONG. Why does the majority get to prove wheather it is wrong or not
Picture of SingSongGirl
Registered: May 31, 2008
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Clpo. As much as I disliked your previous comment, I agree with you. I am a christian, but I do not let my religion interfere with my beliefs pertaining to what I think is right and wrong. I am glad that you are taking your religion seriously, but I don't think that a controvertial statement such as this would be approopriate. God strike me down lest I be wrong, thats just my opinion. Adam and Steve? How long did that one take? Oh, and one thing with Adam and Steve. According to the artifacts and writings, in Rome and Ancient Greece, homosexual relationships were extremely common.
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