I believe we have this thread for that.

No there is nothing to add. That would be why we went off on a tangent.

Tangents. (shakes head) Do you have anything to contribute to the topic at hand before it dissapears to the second page?

We will, Aff and me are the perfect couple. We just have to stick with hookers. But I'm okay with that.

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I'll marry you!

Oh wow...I...umm... Aff I swear I had nothing to do with this

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Oh good.

Me jealous? No! LTR is amazing! Hard to resist...but your right I to think we will work out

Thanks Aff. And if me and aff don't work out LTR (although I'm sure we will!) I'll marry you! hehe (please don't get jelouse aff, you know that you are my only one true love)

Well that came out the wrong way...You do have to rememer that I am married to Triss...But the boards would definately be really frustrating without your imput on boards like this one!

oh...that one hurt.

Well that would be if you AND Triss were to disappear forever.....

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What would I do without you LTR?????

Without me? Life wouldn't even be worth living.

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Originally posted by LoveTheRainbow:

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So your saying that I have a chemical imbalance? Are you implying that I have a defect because I date other boys?

Didn't you know Aff? We should be locked away. Then maybe they can fix us before we spread our disease.

What would I do without you LTR?????

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How do you explain animals who have gay sex?

That argument would best be used against the homosexuality is unnatural. We're arguing it being a perversion, which history has told us it is. Gomorrah and Sodom being a prime example (which everyone uses, but it's true). And also the historical (although biblical reference I used before) about Canaan and Egypt.

But you didn't answer, Torin...what about love?

affanculo, it is quite possible you have a chemical imbalance. It's also improbable. Where the steryotypical "gay relationship" is a femanine/masculine couple, there are others, too. Example: my brother and his boyfriend. Too much testosterone to even think about, but that's our personal lives. (shrugs)

Ahem. If it bothers anyone that I argue both sides of the subject, I'll stop and pick the side I believe in.

Well, it's kinda' funny because according to my "gay group" leader/teacher she says she read an article that said that some scientists observed a gay man's brain and a straight man's brain and they were different in some ways, but that's not surprising because gay men are definitely different hehe. :-)

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So your saying that I have a chemical imbalance? Are you implying that I have a defect because I date other boys?

Didn't you know Aff? We should be locked away. Then maybe they can fix us before we spread our disease.

So your saying that I have a chemical imbalance? Are you implying that I have a defect because I date other boys? And please ... answer my first question....

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a non-religious reason that homosexuality is wrong is that is simply violates human existence, procreation.

So what of couples (married ones, if you please) who use contraceptives? Or how about infertile couples? Are they not allowed to have sex since their sex doesn't result in procreation?

You might argue that contraceptives are bad (heck, the Catholics do it), but that still leaves the barren couples. Since they can never create life, your logic says that they should never have sex.

Besides, homosexuals could simply adopt or have children through surrogates. Everything evens out in the end.

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Sex is such a seductive aspect of human life [...] it's not hard to pervert and we have done so for centuries [...]

Naturally, you are referring to homosexuality as one of those "perversions," but I would gather that you also mean sex for pleasure as being right up there with it (<sarcasm> why else would men have sex with other men? </sarcasm>. However, were you aware that other animals have sex for the pleasure aspect? Since this is the case, it's logical to assume that humans have been doing the same for millennia. It's no perversion to want pleasure, and since sexual intercourse is one of the most pleasurable experiences a human can have, having sex for pleasure is equally unperverted.

Now, I am interested to see what your response is to aff's first question, which you completely ignored (going off instead to list homosexuality as a mental disease). Homosexuality is indeed about more than the sex.

Animals that practice homosexual acts to each other does not prove a damn thing. Animals, like humans are born with defects such as retardation, various other mental illnesses and what not and physcial defects. Animals, like humans are ceceptable to the chemicle imbalance that occurs in the brain that can cause homosexuality as well as other maladaptive behaviors. Try again...

So what about homosexuality without sex...I mean its not like having sex is all that there is. I mean What about love?

Amd about sex being a "seductive aspect of human life"... How do you explain animals who have gay sex?

a non-religious reason that homosexuality is wrong is that is simply violates human existence, procreation. Shade said it right, it is an extreme perversion of sex. Sex is such a seductive aspect of human life, it is up there with money and power, it's not hard to pervert and we have done so for centuries like we have power and money.