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Picture of BillyBarrio
Registered: March 08, 2003
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My theory is that he smoked too much hemp and that altered his mind. This goes hand-in-hand with my "burning-bush" theory.



ahahahahaha!!!! Wink

That was good, I always thought he got a hold of some peyote. That is the only way I could explain some of the crazy stuff said to have happend. It was pretty much all over the place back then...basically it makes you hallucinate.

peyote - a stimulant drug derived from mescal buttons

mescal - a small cactus (Lophophora williamsii) with rounded stems covered with jointed tubercles that are used as a stimulant and antispasmodic
Registered: August 05, 2003
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Christians cant pray in public, but atheists can yell that there is no God all over the place?


what was this topic about? who says christians cant pray in public? if youre saying that they cant pray outside churches or something which im not sure if its true, is part of their religion - not any form of opression
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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if atheism is a religion (as I have heard many atheists say), they need to keep their religion quiet

Atheism is not a religion, regardless of who tells you that. A- meaning no, and theism- meaning religion. Atheism = no religion.
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Christians cant pray in public, but atheists can yell that there is no God all over the place?

Christians can pray wherever they want. No on can stop them. It offends others, at times, when Christians get in groups and pray. For instance, last year in my American Literature class, some girl formed a Christian "group" where they prayed; apparently they wanted to do well on a test they hadn't studied for, and were asking for some unbound knowledge from god. "Lowd Jesus, gimme uh B on dis test. Ima gud Christian. I luv you and baleeve ‘n you. I need uh B, Lowd. Help muh! Amen!" Uhm.. right. That is technically prohibited (even though people still do it.)

And I don't know any Atheists who proclaim to the world that there is no god. Most people simply keep their beliefs to themselves and smile when some Christian invites them to church and politely decline. I know plenty of Christians who have told me to go drink poison because I don't believe in Jesus. Yes, your religion promotes love, as I can clearly see.
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Sorry if Christianity’s set of morals, ethics, peace, and unity offend you.

It's not the religion that's offensive; it's the hypocrites who claim to practice the religion.
Registered: July 31, 2003
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jesus, if atheism is a religion (as I have heard many atheists say), they need to keep their religion quiet. Christians cant pray in public, but atheists can yell that there is no God all over the place? You leave Christianity alone, and we'll stop spreading our message of peace and love to you. Sorry if Christianity’s set of morals, ethics, peace, and unity offend you.
Registered: August 05, 2003
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FINALLY! a down to earth christian. oh miss butters, how i love you! haha! not many of those around this board... anyways, im an atheist, and its not the fact that i hate god or christians, i just hate it when they get in my face about anything and everything they "dont like". i love people of all kinds, but i dont love people who want to hate me because of what i do or do not believe in. or how i do or dont live. im not saying that there isnt a god, but for me, it just seems unreal and silly.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Gah, this is frustrating, but I have nothing better to do:

First off, your "link" says at the bottom of the chart, "Statistics of the world's religions are only very rough approximations. Aside from Christianity, few religions, if any, attempt to keep statistical records; and even Protestants and Catholics employ different methods of counting members." So that's not a precise graphic representation, because no one is sure how many followers are in each religion.

World Religions and Followers

Christianity makes up 33% of the worlds religion and is dropping, Islam comes in a close second and is growing. Soon Christianity will be nothing more than a faint whisper.

A Christian Source

Even that (above link) shows that Christianity is dropping. There are not 2 billion Christian followers. Though, if there were, the number of Christians is dropping progressively, and Islam will soon be more established than Christianity.
Registered: July 17, 2003
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Oh yeah, well I can quote facts too! So there!

Will Clark hit a home run in his first at-bat in college, the Olympics, and the Major Leagues.

In the theme song from "The Flintstones" the line after "Let's ride with the family down the street" is "Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet."

In Shakespeare's time, mattresses were secured on bed frames by ropes when you pulled on the ropes the mattress tightened, making the bed firmer to sleep on. Hence the phrase, "Goodnight, sleep tight."
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Registered: March 02, 2003
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Where are the other world religions on your Chart of Proof?
Registered: July 31, 2003
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Christianity has around 2000000000 followers. It’s a fact, look it up. Even an atheist moron like you has to go by the facts. Sorry, guess we know how stupid you really are now. And no, your quoting STILL doesn’t make you look smart.

And here is what us smart people call "proof". we use it to back up our arguments.http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904108.html
This is so easy to find, you might try it.
Religion Members Percentage
Christianity 1.9 billion 33.0%
Islam 1.1 billion 20.0
Hinduism 781 million 13.0
Buddhism 324 million 6.0
Sikhism 19 million 0.4
Judaism 14 million 0.2
Baha'ism 6.1 million 0.1
Confucianism 5.3 million 0.1
Jainism 4.9 million 0.1
Shintoism 2.8 million 0.0

Can anyone tell me what this chart means? Does it say that Christianity has around 2 billion followers? Hmmm, who said that before.....
Registered: July 17, 2003
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I don't hate God or Christians. To hate God would mean that I believe in God, which I don't. And I don't hate groups, just individuals.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Jesus was a real man. He was documented by the Romans, and the Jews, and people who did not believe he was (is) the Son of God

Yes, he was a real man.
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Jesus had 12 followers, disciples, if you will. These men followed Jesus to his death, and suffered terrible methods of torture for their faith in him. I ask you, would you be skinned alive, stoned to death, nailed to a cross, for thins that you didn’t believe in?

So, because a few men believed the Jesus was the son of god, it must be true? You have faulty logic. Jesus probably believed that he was some spiritual figure. My theory is that he smoked too much hemp and that altered his mind. This goes hand-in-hand with my "burning-bush" theory.
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Could a man influence people to be tortured to death for him without divine intervention?

Yes, Desert. That's called a cult.
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Thousands of years after his death, people are still persecuted for their beliefs in him. Clearly, Jesus was the Son of God.

People still believe in Jesus because of the Bible and the Catholic Church. People were forced to attend church for centuries in Europe, and the Catholic Church ruled as the government, and they wouldn't dare let Jesus’ fables die.
Picture of Amaris
Registered: March 02, 2003
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She probably knows that Christianity is 70% of America and has over 2000000000 followers,

Once again, Christianity does not have over 2 billion people.

And Gem is not a hateful person. Maybe if you stopped judging her and tried to get to know her, or at least understand her opinions, you would know that.
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Registered: May 06, 2003
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Missbutterworth: First off, thank you for asking rather than demanding why some of us don't believe in God. I really don't hate the Christian God, and I don't hate Christians as a whole; that's blind and stupid. I simply don't believe what you believe...I was brought up Roman Catholic, and eventually my mind just started thinking differently and I don't know why. I think it started with original sin; i don't believe a child could be born with original sin.

Deserteagle: "NEVER have I seen an atheist or someone outside the belief of God influence anybody more than their friend in their circle of hatred."
I'm the reason we have a GSA (there are only 3 people who do not have a belief) in my Middle School. I've influenced them to stop discriminating against Gay/Bi/Transgendered persons.
The group has about 20 kids (out of 80 possible) and counting. Now if I'm not influential at ALL, someone tell me. Cirle of hatred? Please, look whose talking.

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Registered: July 31, 2003
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Haha! I love this, 5 imbeciles attack and only one man can defend the truth, me. And if you weren’t so damn stupid, you'd realize that I didn’t say America had 2000000000+ followers, but Christianity as a total does. Islam has 1.3 billion, and Buddhism has a few million, so it’s pretty safe to say that all of you were wrong, as always. They say you can’t have a wrong opinion, but you all are trying that theory pretty hard....

And if I'm a bigot for loving America and trying to stand up for what the people want, than call mea bigot! That's what liberals do whenever they see someone trying to hold up morals and truth. But alas! I shall not be swayed! Clearly, one man (Jesus) could not influence billions and billions of people over the course of two millennia. Sure, Mohammed did, but he claims obedience to the same God. NEVER have I seen an atheist or someone outside the belief of God influence anybody more than their friend in their circle of hatred. I've already given you all numerous arguments, and as always, they remain un-challenged. You people really need to learn how to argue a point. All I do is give well thought out arguments, you see I'm right, get angry and start calling names. And I love it! I've gotten more laughs from you all than I think I've ever gotten from 1 place before. But here's my proof of God, which I'm sure will be answered with ignorance and "insults". But bring em on, I'll just continue laughing.

Jesus was a real man. He was documented by the Romans, and the Jews, and people who did not believe he was (is) the Son of God. Jesus had 12 followers, disciples, if you will. These men followed Jesus to his death, and suffered terrible methods of torture for their faith in him. I ask you, would you be skinned alive, stoned to death, nailed to a cross, for thins that you didn’t believe in? Could a man influence people to be tortured to death for him without divine intervention? Thousands of years after his death, people are still persecuted for their beliefs in him. Clearly, Jesus was the Son of God.

Now, think up some "insults", and make them good, or you might actually have to argue your point. Yech, that wont be pretty.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Hmm, how about: "Self-hating, child-eating, vain, excessively-mature, acerbically-mordant, oxygen-consuming, cross-burning, suicide-encouraging female with the heart of a young girl.. in a jar by her bed?"

That seems to flow. Maybe I should take away some hyphens and add some elipses. I'm going to be so successful!
Registered: July 16, 2002
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No. You need to be a bit more creative. Expand on it. You have the idea, now go with it! If worse comes to worse, you can be a "Self-hating Athiest" and an "enemy of IMI" as well.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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I should include on my resume: "Self-hating Athiest." That's a nice title, don't you think?
Registered: July 16, 2002
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probably knows that Christianity is 70% of America and has over 2000000000 followers, but she hasn’t let the truth stop her before.
Ok, I'm thinking of a quote, nay, a conversation by an Englishman to a girl he was dating. He basically refuted the relgion/size debate. It went something like this:
Girl: Why don't you believe in God? There are so many Christians, they can't ALL be wrong!
Man: Well, what about the Hindus? There are more of them, aren't there?
G: Yeah but-
M: And there are more Buddists, so they can't all be wrong!

Arrrg, this bothers me. I can remember all the useless details surrounding that quote, such as the girl was forbidden from ever speaking to the man again, but I can't remember the bloody quote.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Self-hating atheists like this are very harmful people, but we musn’t let them influence us. We must pray for geminiangel521 that she becomes less ignorant and sees the err of her ways. She has no reason to hate us and God, but she is angry and she wants someone to pin her hate on.


I don't hate anyone in particular, and I don't hate god. How could I hate something I don't believe in? You seriously are ignorant. Not stupid; ignorant. America doesn't have 2 billion Christians living here. Why do you make up BS? To make yourself look credible? It's pathetic. If you pray for anyone, pray for yourself.
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Registered: April 28, 2003
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Ladies and gentlemen, geminiangel521 is just the specimen I was looking for. Clearly, she is an atheist and a very hateful person.
And, clearly, your a christian and a very hateful person, so what's your point?

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Self-hating atheists like this are very harmful people, but we musn’t let them influence us
Again, when you say us and we who are you talking about, Who's the other part of us and we, cause i haven't met them, unless you have an imaginary friend.
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Christianity is 70%
We also know that 70% is divided against itself multiple times.
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