Ladies and gentlemen, DesertEagle the Bigot that never ceases to spew garbage.

Ladies and gentlemen, geminiangel521 is just the specimen I was looking for. Clearly, she is an atheist and a very hateful person. She sees she has lost the argument, and you can pinpoint halfway through where she gives up reason for anger. She probably knows that Christianity is 70% of America and has over 2000000000 followers, but she hasn’t let the truth stop her before. Self-hating atheists like this are very harmful people, but we musn’t let them influence us. We must pray for geminiangel521 that she becomes less ignorant and sees the err of her ways. She has no reason to hate us and God, but she is angry and she wants someone to pin her hate on.

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Atheism, to me, is very illogical. To put htings simply. I just cant see how the universe (or the ingredients of it) can just pop out of nowhere. I can, however, belive that an almighty being can live forever, that makes more sense.

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Creationism persists largely out of momentum; it was held to be absolute truth throughout most of history - part of an integrated set of fables which were questioned only at risk of life or limb. Not only was criticism poorly tolerated, but there were few left alive who had the intellectual tools and courage to question the church on such matters. Creationism continues to persist because, even today, we are not that far removed from the days when belief in such nonsense was mandatory. For many people it is still an understandable, graspable, comforting explanation of our origin. And for those people, that is enough - never mind that it is completely wrong.

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Also, Christianity is the #1 religion in the world and America

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Wrong.

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Picture a flock of birds in your mind's eye. Suddenly they all fly away at once. Noone knows how many birds there are. But someone has to know, or there wouldnt be that number of birds. The person that knows this, is God.

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Wtf? You might as well have said "dogs have tails, and that is a strong indication that god exists."

I try to hate no one.

The following is a response to the thread "god haters" by SnoopyD.

"SnoopyD, the fact is that atheists are generally very bitter people. Why? There are many reasons/theories for why they are outright mean. Probably the most logical one is that they are flamboyantly ignorant. Another is that atheism gives people no hope for the future (or the present) and therefore they are generally very hateful to others. Another reason is that when they see Christians rejoicing happily in public, it drives them crazy. I know a lot of atheists have a whole "angry at the world" thing going on, so whenever they have a problem, they try to pin it on Christianity. So pray for these poor misguided fools, for we may be able to show some of them the true path. Atheism is one of the biggest "isms" we need to put an end to."

Atheism, to me, is very illogical. To put htings simply. I just cant see how the universe (or the ingredients of it) can just pop out of nowhere. I can, however, belive that an almighty being can live forever, that makes more sense. Also, Christianity is the #1 religion in the world and America. I also have a theological proof of god:

Picture a flock of birds in your mind's eye. Suddenly they all fly away at once. Noone knows how many birds there are. But someone has to know, or there wouldnt be that number of birds. The person that knows this, is God.

So there ya have it, logic, facts, and theology. That is all I can do to give some evidence of God, but there is no doubt in my mind that some hateful atheist will come in here and attack me and my statemnts. So, Christians, I thank you for your time, and i'm glad to see that there are some on this site.

I'm Christian, but I don't really believe in God. I just get irritated when, when someone asks "Where is the proof that God exists?" a lot of Christians will say something like;

"Oh, he exists all right. Just look around us! Jesus was so great, how can you say God doesn't exist? You just gotta have faith! Have faith, and you will be saved."

That's kind of exaggerated, but I see that a lot.

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i don't believe that God knows whether or not you are going to accept him. i

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This would mean that God doesn't know everything. The Bible says he does. Something is wrong here isn't it?

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Well, I can understand your point. . I do think that the Bible is true.

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But for you a more logical answer would be turbo evaporation. )

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There isn't enought water in the clouds and ice caps to cover the world in water. Where did all that water dissappear to?

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About the rock:Why would he make something that he couldn't fix??

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This is just to show that he can't do anything.

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i happen to have alot of catholic friends

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HAHA. A lot of my friends are catholic. This sounds a lot like " a lot of my friends are black." Some of you will know this form the civil rights act as the defence against racism.

ok

Billy:
Your point is that the Bible may be untrue, right? Well, I can understand your point. . I do think that the Bible is true. No, I don't think that God would let the Bible continue to circulate if it was all untrue. And yes, I do believe fully in Christianity. The Bible is a book that I am suppose to learn from. It brings me closer to God. And therefore I don't think that he would want me to read it, live by it, and use it to wittness if it was all one big lie. Oh, and I have a question...have you ever sat down to read the bible without trying to look for all the "bad" things? Have you ever just sat down to study it?

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I have played telephone before too,but i don't think that God would let something untrue about him or Christ go around for thousands of years.

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Ok you don't think God would let lies continue about him? Then you must not believe fully in Christianity, because from what I gather that is the point, for you to chose the right path. So say men have made lies and put them in a book and you believe...God may not have said any of it, he infact may be angry at the fact you believe such tails. Until you decide that you reject the evil said about him, he will not bring you to him. This is my point and always has been my point, but everyone misses it and I don't always come off the right way either...what if...you believe the wrong thing. Truth is all I ask, and all I want. Why are people so affraid of it? After all if it is God you have to defend your morality and answer to, wouldn't you want to make sure you were right?

I don't hate God or Christians.I just don't belive in God.And it's for my own reasons.It's mostly because of my real mom.But that's another story all together.

mrs.butterfly...i respect ur wanting to actually find out y ppl hate christians. however i think ur answer lies in ur question. u said..use new testament scripture. ur problem there is that practically everything in the new testament comes from the old testament. figure that out
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Quad4IV:
first of all, i don't believe that God knows whether or not you are going to accept him. i believe that he gives us a choice and we always have the freedom to accept him no matter what. i do think that he knows what our life will be like if we don't accept him, and he also knows how our life can be if we do.
Where did all the water go you ask. Well i believe that God can work miracles and that was just one of them.(But for you a more logical answer would be turbo evaporation. )
About the rock:Why would he make something that he couldn't fix??

Billy: I understand your point. I have played telephone before too,but i don't think that God would let something untrue about him or Christ go around for thousands of years. I also have faith. Faith in my religion and my Lord.I'm also glad to know that you don't hate me.
goldenangel82087: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply that atheists don't have a right to be here.i just want to learn why they don't believe. i don't hate anyone for not being christian( i happen to have alot of catholic friends) i just want to understand their point better.

Athiests don't hate people, we try to get people to think for themselves. I became an Athiest on the issue of free will. Since then I have developed my some more things that are only further proof that 'God' cannot exist.

Free Will
Christians believe that god knows everything. He knows who will choose to accept him as a savior and all that stuff, and who won't. People don't have free will because he already knows what is gonig to happen. People cannot accept him because god already knows who will and who won't.

Why would god creat people that he 'loves' when he knows that they aren't going to accept them? basicly he creates them to be fuel for his fire. If he didn't creat that person, then he would save them from the fires of hell, right?

So your loving god creates people that he knows cannot accept him to burn. Sounds like a god I want to serve. He killes for what? For fun?

If god doesn't know everything then the bible is wrong. If the bible is wrong then duh!

The Rock
If god can do everything can't he make a rock that he can't move?

Just think about that. God can do or make everything including things he can't do or make.

Sin in Heaven

The bible says that heaven is perfect, there is no sin. Being jealous is a sin, in fact its one of the ten commandments.

How could satan be jealous of gods power in heaven if there is no jealousy in heaven?

Where did the water go?

If noah had the big flood that covered the entire world and the peaks of the mountains, where did all the water go? The water cannot just dissappear.

That is why I am an Athiest. Why are you a christian?

missbutterworth!

I don't hate you

I really dislike the things in Christianity, there is alot of wrong in both old and new testaments. And it is not just Christians, it's all revealed religions. They only tell us bad things. Yes there are good things said, what you miss in most cases it is only said about Christians. Do you see how that insults the rest of us? I have never once said no one should not believe in God, but they should question the origins of their religion. I believe that alot in the Bibles and Kur'an can not be true, they are second hand information from scripes and friends who followed these prophets. If you have ever done this in your class room, you whisper to one person a sentance...then you pass it around the room. By the last person the sentance is no longer the original sentance. These holy books have been passed around over 2,000 years. I don't hate any of you in fact I care enough to care if you know the truth or not. My gloves have been swinging alot lately...and I'm sorry if I swung to hard.

and to sum up how I feel:

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Look around you, at the trees and the birds. A little girl smiles as she rides past on her bike, that faint breaze which whispers in our ear. The stars and distant universes we may never understand. This is my bible from which I read.
Long after holy books have turned to dust and my bible has swallowed us in time. Long after the creatures of our province have picked our minds away and we have become one with the soil...the word of my God will still remain.

-me

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and these are some things in the NEW TESTAMENT I don't like...

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Matthew 15:4-7

Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he’ll give you a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, it’s called neglect, pure and simple. Matthew 19:29

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9

Luke 12:47 Jesus okays beating slaves.

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. Matthew 11:20

Jesus, whose clothes are dipped in blood, has a sharp sword sticking out of his mouth. Thus attired, he treads the winepress of the wrath of God.(The winepress is the actual press that humans shall be put into so that we may be ground up.) Revelations 19:13-15

Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34

Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Matthew 5:17

I think that Atheists should have as mush a right to be here as Christian people do. So what if they don't believe in something. If we didn't have Atheists the world would be dull place. They bring difference into our society. Has anyone believe in everything that another person believes in? I think not. Just because they don't agree with the majority doesn't mean that we should shun them. They are people too. People in these Noiseboards are always ragging on the Atheists. I hate it. I am Chatholic, and yes I believe that I will go to heaven when I die, but not evryone has the same opinion as I do. If everyone did then it get pretty boring. I am not saying to start ragging on Christians either but it just seems like we are talking about Atheism and how it is wrong. So what if thye don't believe in God and Jesus. Just let then live their life and leave them the hell alone.