___If god is really a god then what's with the whole occurance of things he doesn't want in the first place. "Want" is a powerful word and you've let it run amuck through that pie hole of yours.

There's a reason for everything. There's a reason why God made man. So that the woman would not be alone, and that she will have a partner in life. I mean, why would God make man in the first place if He just wanted girls to marry each other?

heh, there's nothing sinful about homosexuality beyond what that book tells you to believe, i believe the christian mindset can best be summed up in this song:

Jesus loves me! this I know,
the Bible tells me so./B]
Little ones to Him belong;
they are weak but He is strong.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
[B]Bible tells me so.

Jesus loves me! loves me still,
'tho I'm very weak and ill,
that I might from sin be free,
bled and died upon the tree.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.

Jesus loves me! He who died
heaven's gate to open wide;
He will wash away my sin,
let His little child come in.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.

Jesus loves me! He will stay
close beside me all the way.
Thou hast bled and died for me,
I will henceforth live for Thee.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.

Jesus loves me when I'm good.
When I do the things I should.
Jesus loves me when I'm bad,
but it makes him oh so sad.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.

wow, nwh is making conservative sound rational... heh... see, conservative is making sense here, because he's using common sense, whereas nwh is just spouting off anti-communist overtures and words of religious poison.

Finally! Someone finally noticed! Your right, priests cannot marry, and thank you for finally realizing that. Priests cannot marry, and women cannot be preists. Why? There seems to be no apparent reason, except for blind sexism. Seriously, though, the Pope is still to this day saying that the Church is in "the deepest crisis weve ever seen." And rape is done for self control, not for sexual orgasmic experiences.

I never said anything about hatred. I simply said that the Catholic Church is split over the issue, and they are, according to the Pope. And 76% of the Catholic priests who were thought to be sexual predators were happily married; most with children. This is from the Boston Archdiocese itself, from a few months ago.

Damn it paint bucket distracted everyone from the points I made.

'Also, the Christian church is pretty much split over this issue. They say "Love thy neighbor", but then turn and say that homosexuality is "immoral."'

How is that hatred? By rebuking one's lifestyle!? Would it be hatred to say that prostitute is immoral? is it hatred that a fornicator is in sin? What is so hateful about saying that homosexuality is immoral?

'Don't make too much sense if you ask me. After barely surviving the preist-sexual rapicst crisis'

First off, most of those bishops were homosexuals, secondly the rate of child molestors in the catholic church was 2%. It is about the same for all of the demoniations (keep in mind I'm not saying that it was any less evil), but the point is in the general population, that rate is much higher, like about 6%. To judge them on the basis of the catholic preist scandel, would be like judgeing Muslims on 9-11.

'and now this issue, I would not be suprised if the Catholic Church was not around anymore in 50 years. Religion is, and will fade.'

I see you are taking a tradtional Karl Marx stance on this

'Times have changed. So have people. For the record, I do believe in an existance higher than man, but I do not believe that "God" put us here. However, I also disagree that we directly came from monkey's.'

Thank you God you at least know that.

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Youre going to HELL so oh well

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so youre just giving up?! doesnt sound like any of the christians I know.

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I really think that if youre a les, then you wouldnt have sex with Satan

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he's a guy.

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It aint possible period.

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so all kinds of evolution arent possible?

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However hes going to HELL

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you know what? he's my friend. i invited him to this site, but i didn't tell him to be a stupid b*tch (sorry, matt). if you have a problem with him, fine. just be civil about it. *snarl*

Finally, if I had to vote on a gay-marriage law right now, I'd probably vote "no." This country is not yet ready to deal with the problem yet. For now, states should decide on how to handle it. However, we must face possible consequences if we do allow gay-marriage. Others might also demand rights, too. What about same-famly marriages as well? Is that also acceptable? What I am saying is that this is an extremely important and more complex issue that most people believe.

Also, the Christian church is pretty much split over this issue. They say "Love thy neighbor", but then turn and say that homosexuality is "immoral." Don't make too much sense if you ask me. After barely surviving the preist-sexual rapicst crisis and now this issue, I would not be suprised if the Catholic Church was not around anymore in 50 years. Religion is, and will fade. Times have changed. So have people. For the record, I do believe in an existance higher than man, but I do not believe that "God" put us here. However, I also disagree that we directly came from monkey's.

Pretty sad that the gay topic turned into an argument about monkey's. Anyway, I do not believe that the US can take either side on this issue. It should be worked out and reasoned with. I do believe that homosexuals should get the legal rights of marriage. However, I do respect the Christian tradition of marriage. I think the best solution is for gays to have thier own "form" of marriage.

You obviously don't understand how evolution works. It's not some magical pseudo-science where humans just pop out of monkeys, it's more of a natural selection and mutation within the species. See, as monkeys became more proficient with tools, the ones that did relied less and less on the extraneous features they needed for activities such as crap-hucking. Thusly, these monkeys, the smart ones, eventually mutated away from the less intelligent strain through natural selection, as they needed tools to survive now. The ones that could use tools well enough were the survivors, while the ones that couldn't were killed and eliminated from the genepool. This process continues until we didn't need many features at all aside from intelligence, and thusly we became a distinctly different sect of the primate category.

Unfortunately, some humans with their newfound intelligence refused to believe things which have been proven beyond a doubt through both careful experimentation and common sense, and denied that the earth, which is a couple billion years old, is more than 10,000 years old.

wow, so, you're not descended from a monkey, well... i think you're closer to a monkey than any of us mr. redneck. or at least, that's what the intelligence of your opinion indicates. I could lead you to an ocean of knowledge, but you'd be afraid to get your feet wet.

and, um, have fun wrestlin them pigs in the yard. And please, don't let beast*ality tempt you. gotta watch out for them farm animals.

Well, no. It aint possible period. However hes going to HELL! So it aint my problem.

___So evolution is possible for some poeple?

To gay, **** you


To Poncho, I didnt descend from no damn monkey like that ***** did.

What is "hugh". I he's your "friend" **** him too.

wel i hope you all know were i stand
mess with me and i will mess back
bi evry body

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Put it this way. If God wanted it to be Adam and Steve, he would have made it that way. But he didn't!! He made Adam & EVE. A man and a woman. There, does that help you?

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There's also that whole thing about neither of them existing, and evolution being responsible for the existence of humans.

so how come ya aint talking hugh