honestly i have many different view on interracial dating. in some ways i feel that it shouldn't be a problem. and that we should see that guy or gurl as a person,not b/c of anyting else or any other reason. i also think u know it says all m people are equal so its like just do whatever.
but on the other hand i some what disagree. not b/c i'm racist or anything like that. i mean my best friend is black so u know. well anyways i feel in some ways that it is wrong b/c....if u adn that other perosn ever got married and had kids it might mess up the kids "race"...u know when u have to fill out that form and tells u to put race if u are half and half u can't put both and that would be some what hard on teh kids. and not to mention the hard time the couple would ahve form people adn after a while it would be hard to go out or wahtever. well thats all for now folks <3 Smiles <3

I am not racist, but i feel dating someone out of your race can ruin a realtionship. I dont think that it should matter the color of your skin, or the religon you are, but i feel it could create tenstion between a couple. If you were black and dating a white person, you would get looks and feel uncomfortable outside of your house. If a jewish girl/boy marries another person with a different religon, then that can cause problems. not only when you go to church or the temple, it is when you have a child, you cant allow a kid to have two religions to take on, that just isnt fair. I dont think that it matters what you look like or what your religion is, it is what problems come with it!

Maybe I'm just too "Traditional" but I feel that you should only date if it is serious. I don't date to get my jollies by making out at parties and things. I don't date to get "experience". I date because I have serious plans for the future. I feel that dating should lead to "mating" in the long run. That is how it should be. And no, I wouldn't be offended if a person from another race asked me out, I would simply say no and be done with it. It isn't a big deal.

Gemofini- Thanks alot for reminding us all of the rules. It was getting out of control, wasn't it? All the racial slurs and religious attacks were getting to be too mush for me. Gimme a break. There was nothing offensive said here. I get called self-rightous a lot on here but I have never gone to a room and quoted the rules. That is just childish. Gimme a break.

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I came into this topic to get some ideas on interracial *dating*. I'm not going to start on the previous 'animal' discussion, because I feel that has blown out of porportion. Anyway, if everyone wants to get onto the title topic, I have a few remarks and questions.
I've always gone to very mixed schools. In middle school, (6-8) people dated whomever they wanted-I never thought, 'She's black and he's white' or, 'she's latino and he's asian', I just thought, 'Oh, there goes Jackie and Chris, I wonder if they're going to go to JSA today.' But now, I'm at a new high school. It has a 50% minority rate (That includes every race but caucasian). I was very comfortable, and if i'm attracted to someone, I dont' care about their ethnicity. However, then I got into the outside world this summer. I saw some movies. I met some new people. Now when I see the cute asian guy or black guy in the hallway, as I'm about to say hello, I suddenly think, What if he's one of the people I met that only date their own race? I'm very nervous. So, my question to you all anti-interracials, would you be terribly offended if another race tried to ask you out? Thanks.
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exactly jill...and in many states relations with family members is illegal so its ok.

Um, I'm getting a headache with all these comparisons between human racial groupings and different species of dogs and cats, so lets try to end this, since I think that neither side is budging here. I still totally disagree with Marine, but he probably won't change his mind anytime soon, so...
Like I said before, if you wish to date only people from a certain ethnic group, that's okay. You're limiting yourself, but hey, why should anyone force anyone else to date certain people?! This works on both sides, you know. To tell you the truth, I've never had a crush on a black guy. I've just never found any black guys to be attractive so far, and what's wrong with that? Forcing people to be multicultural with regard to relationships can be almost as bad as forcing people to date only other people that are the same ethnicity and whatnot. This is a free county, isn't it?? Date who you want; although if you want to date relatives, that's kinda iffy... eww.

Jill

Toho, why, if I am so wrong, do Bushupporter and Proudrepublican agree with me? Perhaps it is because they know I am right.

And I would like to point out that just because someone is against Interatial dating does not make them a racists. I am would not personally do it but I have no problem with other people doing it, and I am not a racists.

My opinion, regarding races and species, is simply stating that there is a difference between races. I do not, have I ever expressed that I, feel that one race is superior to another.

Marine, wolves, hyenas, lions, tigers, and cheetahs do not breed with each other because they CAN'T. They are each separate species and as a result cannot produce any offspring. Rare exceptions might be the Liger or the Tigon, but they are the exception, not the rule.

Stop comparing the notion of human races to animal species.. they are completely different and have no relation to each other.

My statement on 'human intervention' was in reference to your comment on domesticated animals, dogs and cats, and nothing more. How can you simply jump track and assume I'm talking about 'breeds' of wild animals (especially when the concept of breeds of wild animals is a scarce one)? Different breeds of domesticated cats do mate when given the chance, and the same can be said about domesticated canines. Your 'common logic' is nothing more than outright lies and would be appalling to any zoologist.

P.S. Let's also take into account the geographical locations of the wild animals you are questioning me about. Lions, as you will probably agree, originate in Africa; Tigers originate in South Asia; Hyenas are a canine-related species and they originate in Africa; Cheetahs also originate in Africa, however, as I said, are a completely different species from Lions and Tigers. Wolves live on several continents, however they are in largest numbers in North America.

P.P.S. Unless these animals have developed some sort of aeronautical skill, how can they logically breed naturally?

Marine, I really don't know where you get the idea that people that are different colors are separate species... A separate species from humans would be like a chimpanzee. Few, if any, modern scientists would agree with your notion. In the 19th century, this view was quite popular among scientists trying to prove the "superiority" of the white race... you may not be racist, but your theory does have racist ties, so... just be careful.
Anyway, if you want to date only people from your ethnic and religious background, that's okay; no one's forcing you to do otherwise. But once someone starts trying to force other people to do the same... THAT is unacceptable.

Jill

Amen Marine16, amen. And I also agree with the comments about BushSupporter. Wake up people.

You tought I was gone, but the joke is on you. I'm back. I'm back trying to spread the light of my common logic and constitutionaly based facts.

Toho, you say there are very few pure breed dogs and cats in a natural state? What about wolves, hyenias, lions, tigers and cheetas? Do they not count? And correct me if I am wrong, without human intervention, these animal never breed together, do they? I believe that is sufficent.

Liltrumpetgirl, I am finding more and more that the only opinions you have are the opinions that are opposite of mine. That is pathetic. I called 'domestic' cats sub species, meaning they came from a master species. Perhaps you should take the time to read my promopts. And I guess I am having a hard time the grounds you are presenting your arguement on. I, and I'm sure bushsupporter will agree, don't understand what your arguement is and your argumement lacks any facts to back it.

when I said some spe species I meant different breeds. toho has a good point. Breeds are not speicies they are just certain animals with speic qualities

Let's get something straight here... breeds are the result of human intervention, not some natural process. Humans domesticated cats and dogs and thus created new breeds based upon desirable traits. This is not a natural situation, and you cannot claim such a thing. Take a look at a more natural situation, such as stray cats and dogs. I doubt you'll find many, if any, purebred animals in such natural states.

all cats breed together...some seperate species do not because they are kept for people to breed and sell expensively and marine was saying tthat each type was a sep species

You are right Marine. I understand what you are saying even if others don't. Siamese cats and persian cats are the same species. They do not, however breed with eachother usually. Why? THEY ARE DIFFERENT. That is why.

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Marine....humans for science are in one species there are no more seperations because humans is the speicies. There are many species with simmilar but different bone structures and they are formed by geographics. Mice that live in the dark have dif bone structures than those that live in the light. AS i was saying bone structure doesnt make a speices because it is caused by demographics along with color. huskies and wolves are hte same except dogs are domesticated. DO you even know how scientific classification works?

After several misdirected post by several people, including myself, I am going to get back on track

I think interatial dating is fine. I would not personally do it but, I have nothing against it. I bless everyone who is married, or is dating, as long as they love each other, regardless of their race.

As I have allready said, the kind of racial profilin I am talking about is recogn9izing that different races are, just that, DIFFERENT. They are all equall, but they are DIFFERENT. Therefor it is natural to categorize people by 'species'.

You stated, liltrupmetgirl, that 'There are also skeletal differences that were made in hte same way. (africans have larger face and their brow sticks out).' NO animal species, unless there is some magical one I do not know about, is structurley built different. Infact being built structurley the same was is one of the ways we classify species. This would prove that different races are the equivilant of other species.

I encourage everyone to fo to my prompt entitled 'Science, how I love it'. Upon reading that prompt you will find that my arguement, that racial profiling is natural, is backed by science and religion. My arguement leaves no room for dispoute.

Liltrupmetgirl, your 'science', or as you like to call it, has done nothing to disporve my theroey. Infact it has simply fueled it.

'Dogs can breed with huskies because they are the same species and evolved from wolves and other wild dogs' Huskies and wolves have evolved wild dog or wolves. They can bread but, they are different species (Toho said himself that all the 'cats' belong to the Feline category but, are different species. This is no differnt than dogs.).

We all call our selves homosapiens. We can bread with our own race species and outside of our race species. For instance, 'Whites can bread with Africans and produce fertile offsprig, just like the husky and wolf. A white can also mate with a white. Is this more normal? Well, proprtionatly, more whites mate with whites than whites mate with Africans.' Nature is conserened only with reporduction. Species naturally mate with their own species, that is one of the ways we identify them. More whites mate with white and more Africans mate with Africans. This classify use into species, as does our races.

This grabbing for straws is become repulsive and I assumed you took science b4

Humans arent broken into dif species. Dogs can breed with huskies because they are the same species and evolved from wolves and other wild dogs. acutally they did not really evolve they were just tamed. sapien is humans species. THere are different races as their are different colors of cats. THe color is cauesd by genetic traits just like your hair color. The different races became different colors through natural selection. Those people that werent burnt in the scalding desserts had darker skin and had a better chance of breeding and making more people that inherited hteir dark skin (genes). People in regions with more shelter were darker. There are also skeletal differences that were made in hte same way. (africans have larger face and their brow sticks out). I learned all this in elementary and the skeletal stuff from a lady that makes her living looking at dead people (solves crimes and stuff too). The different characteristics form from hte region in the world they live. There are many different types including african, european and native american. When you mix the traits with interatial dating you can see hte different mixing with lighter skin and different bone structure. You can even see the adaptions of people living in different regions (ie. blacks living in america are a lighter color).
What the person describing mating nad making children was talking about was that we can not breed with anything but hom o sapiens because the gamates will not react (egg & sperm).
I hope my science lesson didnt bore you.