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Registered: February 28, 2002
Posts: 1
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It is clear that interracial dating is a touchy issue. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to this. There are people who fall in love with people, without regard to race, religion, or culture, and that's wonderful. There are people who fall in love with people with the same skin color, religion, and background, and that is wonderful too. It is very difficult to create general rules for love, and I think this should be done absolutely as little as possible. I come from a family that would accept and love me with just about anyone - Jewish or not, white or not, male or not. People have the right to decide what they want in a relationship, but nobody has the right to decide what is the right kind of love and what is the wrong kind of love. All love is good love. What the world needs is more love. So people, don't hate each other. We all are entitled to our opinions. Love, Anna
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Registered: August 14, 2001
Posts: 742
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I hate to jump into this, but my opinionated side insists... Just because in the past humans have done things a certain way (in this cause, marry within their own "race") doesn't mean that it must continue. The reason why people look so different is because they have been separated from each other by physical barriers (as in, geographical) for hundreds or even thousands of years. In an age where many people can travel large distances within a few hours and communicate with anyone anywhere in the worl d in an instant, there is no longer any real reason why groups of people must keep within their own racial (or even cultural) group. Let me refer everyone to my last post: almost all races that we recognize today were not around thousands of years ago! "Hispanic" people didn't exist until the Spanish conquered much of the New World and intermingled with the native population. That racial category is misleading anyway: some "Hispanics" have blond hair and blue or green eyes (one of my friends is like this), and some have dark skin and look "black". There is NO SUCH THING AS RACIAL PURITY! There never was, and there never will be. Half of my ancestors were English or Irish, and half were German. So even though I am "white", am I racially pure? Nooo... An d even if I was full German, what about all the Germanic tribes that migrated to that area in the Dark Ages? So even THEN, I wouldn't be "pure"! This is just an ignorant concept invented by people who were xenophobes: people who were terrified of others who weren't just like them. P.S: Although I think it wasn't right for anyone to say Bushsupporter is going to Hell, the way he talks down to people has always bugged me. And his Korean War Memorial quote kinda gets on my nerves... ::sigh:: Oh well. No one can change anyone's mind, really. It takes much more than that... ˇ
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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'As I said in my previous message, a species is a group of animals whose members can mate with each other and produce fertile offspring. A "Caucasian" (Caucasoid) can mate with an "Asian" and produce fertile offspring. ' A Canine breader can bread one species of Canine bread with another. A wolf and a husky, for example. When the wolf and the husky mate they produce a fertile offspring. However it is more natural for the wolf to want to bread with its own kind. Whites can bread with Africans and produce fertile offsprig, just like the husky and wolf. A white can also mate with a white. Is this more normal? Well, proprtionatly, more whites mate with whites than whites mate with Africans. I believe these examples sufficently disporve your opinion that we can not be broken into sepcies because we can mate with other races.
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Registered: February 12, 2002
Posts: 25
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marine16: Once again you have erred. Humans are not divided into separate species. As I said in my previous message, a species is a group of animals whose members can mate with each other and produce fertile offspring. A "Caucasian" (Caucasoid) can mate with an "Asian" (the proper, 19th-century scientific term would be Mongoloid) and produce fertile offspring. You cannot fit everyone into the categories you just described. Where do the supposed "latinos" fit? After all, such a categorization is based upon language. Where do Australian aborigines fit? Very light-skinned "Negroids" with thin noses and thin lips? The indigenous Ainu of Japan? Racial profiling is a method of identifying an entire people with certain characteristics; these types of generalizations are inefficient, not to mention horribly inaccurate. All people, no matter their "race" have all sorts of characteristics and profiling only seeks to undermine true scientific accuracy. I won't go too much further into the idea of domination of sports, but try to look into how different cultures view certain events and their prestige. If I have a look inside an automobile plant, and the majority of the workers are black, would coming to the conclusion that blacks are just "better car makers" be accurate? The idea of race itself takes into account the false idea that EVERYONE can be categorized into one specific group and that EVERYONE's behavioral traits can then be determined. I'd be really frustrated if you believe this to be true.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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In case there is any confussion I am saying that racial profiling is noticing and recognizing that people look different. I am ot saying that racial profiling is saying a person does something because of the color of their skin (I am totaly against this.). This brings me to my point about races in atheltic events. I was wrong for using that as an example and I should not have used. I would like people to note that that example is not how I feel, and I was simpy grasping for straws and didn't even realize that it hurt my point and probably disgusted people. I apologize to anyone I offended.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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I believe my point, that racial profiling is natural, has been proven. 'Humans are all the same species but different felines are different species...you ahve taken science B4' I have taken science before and you made an interesting point. Felines (I apologize, I was misguided before) belong to category known as wildcats. God, or evolution if you believe in it, breaks wildcats up into certain species. All wildcats are structurley made the same way, but differnt species look different. We, as people, belong to a category called homosapiens. God, or evolution is you believe in it, breaks homosapiens into certain species (Africans, Asians, Caucasian and Moors.). All humans are made stucturly the same, but differnt species look different. Through God we can see that racial profiling is natural because if it wasn't there would only be one kind of living organism that was identical to every other organism. Through science we can see that racial profiling is natural because species, the whole, are divided up into sub-species. Just as homosapiens are the whole, and the certain races are the sub-species. As for racial profiling in sports. Ussually, not always, a caucasians wins the slolem. Ussually, not alway, an African wins the 100 meter dash. Ussually, not always, a caucasian wins the ski jump. Ussually, not always, and African wins the high jump. Ussually, not alway, a person from wetern eurupe and Russia wins weight lifting. ussually, not always, a Sweed wins the swimming events. So atheletic events are USUALLY dominated by one race.
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Registered: January 16, 2002
Posts: 559
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I did not read the whole thing but I read soemone who compared human races to feline spcies. Humans are all the same species but different felines are different species...you ahve taken science B4. Other people told bushsupporter that he was going to hell becasue that was what he was saying to others. Races were invented by men (**** sapiens). The only different between dif. races is that some peoples bodies have adapted to their cultures. Again this is science. I bet if you are white against interratial dating you would be against dating a white african and not a black african (people living in africa just so were clear) even though they could be the same person minus skin color.
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Registered: February 12, 2002
Posts: 25
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marine16, your statements are absolutely absurd. First, I'd like to say that I've not noticed anyone limiting Bushsupporter's freedom of speech. Simply because some choose differing views and some may consider an opinion completely outrageous does NOT mean they are hindering his rights. Are you too dense to notice that no one here even has the ability to limit his freedom of speech? Unless we are all moderators, I suggest you give better proof. Next, race does not exist. There is no such thing as a race of felines. Lions and tigers belong to different species of wildcat. Let me lay a few out for you: Lion - Panthera leo Tiger - Panthera tigris Jaguar - Panthera onca Cheetah - Acinonyx jubatus .. I think those will suffice. A species is an organized group of animals whose members can mate with each other and have fertile offspring. An exception might be the donkey and the horse, however this is due something which we will not get into as it is irrelevant. There is no such thing as a different species of human. We all belong to the species known as **** sapiens sapiens. We all can mate and produce fertile offspring, no matter the skin color. You have only served to prove my point that Race is a concoction of the status quo in order to attribute certain characteristics to people of *supposedly* differing phenotypes. Your "tigers swi[m], but not as good as lions" analogy is fundamentally flawed. Racial profiling is not natural; racial profiling is a cultural trait. When the Roman Empire labelled all noncooperating outsiders as 'barbarians,' it was not acting upon a natural instinct but a diplomatic strategy in order to control the minds of the masses. Mere experience with "outsiders" does not beget hatred for said outsiders. It is the powerful who set the laws of the land for the majority, and persuade the people, especially with military might, to fight against the ambiguously described barbarians. Olympics events are not dominated by one race, especially if you consider the fact that the Olympics participants come from all over the world. Does the U.S. = the world? If you want to take sports into account, fine. Let's first consider why someone of this one dominant race would want to go such a route. Could we take into consideration the fact that the majority of those of said race live in relative poverty and often feel that attempting to attain such high status is the only way out? How many millions do individual athletes earn/year? How many millions do rappers earn per year? Think about it.. if you have so few outlets and have the opportunity to get ahead by using and training natural abilities, would you do it? Before you start attributing superpowers to an entire people, think about the ENTIRE PEOPLE, not a select few.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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It is sad that people actually think we belong to the same family as apes. That is, in some peoples eyes, disgusting and embarassing to the human race. Perhaps you like to think that we are in the same family as apes, but I'm not. Tigers swin, but not as good as lions. Just like in the Olyimpics events are dominated by one race (Just like that some Lions can swim better than some tigers.). Racial rpofiliing is natural and it is 'scary' and ignorant to say that it doesn't exists. I am gravely disgusted by the fact that everyone likes to limit bushsupporters freedom of speach. this is the most hypocritical injustice in the history of youthnoise. I believe the slogan of this page is, 'Vent and ye' shall be heard'. How come know one realizes that some people only care about limiting someone's speach when they dn't agree with them. 'It is sad that most of us can't bathe in the light bushsupport illuminates, as do I.'
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 2
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go jaxB u r completely right i agree with you to the fullest 
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 22
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I've never dated anyone, but if I wanted to and that person was of a different race than me, it certainly wouldn't make any difference. How does it matter what background a person is from? What kind of person they are is all that matters. No one's parents should stop them from dating some one simply on basis of their race. Race shouldn't matter!
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Registered: September 14, 2001
Posts: 36
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I believe tigers, lions, etcetera are different types of animals of the same family, such as humans are in the same family as chimpanzees and other apes. All those cats are built a bit differently from each other, so they are much more different than races. Lions can't run fast like cheetahs, and they don't swim like tigers. Humans are basically the same race, they are not built differently, and we all have the same range of mtion and abilities. So race doesn't exist
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Registered: September 14, 2001
Posts: 36
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How could you not adapt to your child? Your child is your child, whether it is a different color or not. If you can't care for your own flesh and blood just because of their skin color, that is just cruel and cold. Furthermore, Bushsupporter is the one that's always telling US that we are going to hell. We don't need to hear that everytime he posts something. 
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Registered: February 24, 2002
Posts: 7
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just becuase you don't beleive in God don't tell us your imoral crap. i don't care what you beleive and i will not get on you about it, so leave me alone. i am NOT God so do not decied who is going 2 hell and who is going to heaven, but anyone who tells you about it is only trying to do you a favor from their point of view. if you weren't scared that there was a hell, you wouldn't care if anyone said your going there.
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Registered: February 24, 2002
Posts: 7
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i thing interacial dating is beautiful. I think that it shows that we as thinking feeling human beings can over come differences, and that it shows that we have grown as peolpe. I doesn't matter what other peolpe think, if you know what is right in your heart you have to follow it. Anyone who does it is a great example in the name of peace, anyone who hates it is small minded. 
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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Race, Toho, does exist. I bet you are asking how I can prove this, so I will tell you. Mankind is no different from any animal group. For the purpose of this discussion I will focus on felines. There are tigers, lions, panthers, cheetas, lepords, siamese and pursian. We call these felines the above names because they look different from the others. Just like we, as mankind, have labeled races. We find, through nature, that a tiger does not mate with a lion. So, should a white mate with a minority? I honestly do not know an official answer to that question. Would I date a minoirty? Probably not. It would be difficult for me to adapt me, growing up in an all white family, to my child who was a different color than me.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 2
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you cannot choose who u love i'm an athiest and my parents r both prodistant. i was brought up to belive in what i want to. it shouldn't matter who u elope with they r who they r and if u love them you will accept them for who they are. i'm in a relationship right now with someone who is christian and they respect me for who i am. shure i have dated people of another race and my family was fine with it cause my family isn't racist. ~michelle 
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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I will tell you what I find repulsive. All of you. Bushsupporter voiced his opinion and all anyone can say is that he is going to hell. That is very hypocritical because everyone of you supports freedom of religion but the second someone excresizes their right to freedom of speach, and they disagree with you, you people tell them they are going to hell. It is sad that most of us can't bathe in the light bushsupport illuminates, as do I.
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Registered: February 12, 2002
Posts: 25
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Race is biologically nonexistent. It is an invention of the status quo in order to organize sets of people into classes, although it is a very poor system of organization. Consider the following: the idea of "race" is not based merely on skin color; "Latino" is based on language; "Asian" is loosely based on ancestral geographic location; "Black" and "white" are based on skin color and supposed common phenotypes. Fortunately, even these common phenotypes are inaccurate, as anyone of any color can, in fact, have any combination of various traits (straight hair, thin lips, dark skin, fine hair, large nose, small nose, dark eyes, light eyes, etc.). All aforementioned traits are the result of evolution. It is well known to all anthropologists that, in general, skin colors among a population are the darkest at the equator, and, going north, gradually become lighter throughout populations. The same can be said for all the phenotypes. Racism is the act of seeing differences between people of differing cultures where they simply do not exist. Therefore, we should not only be accepting everyone as they are but also disregarding the notion of Race altogether.
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Registered: February 25, 2002
Posts: 1
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i really don't have a problem with interracial dating. but my parents do. they told me that i could make my own decisions when i move out but untill themn they told me i am not alloued to make those decisions. they had some not so good personal experiences. i think that underneath we are all the same. it dosen't matter what race u are or even the color of ur skin. if a white girl and a black girl are playing on the playground, and they scrape thier knees, they will bleed the same color. we are all equal underneath
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