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Registered: February 17, 2002
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i don't see why it would be wrong, i'd do it if there was someone worth dating in my area at all(of any ethnicity!). Racism isn't just killing people of different ethnicitys, Racism is anything that you do that excludes someone of a different background ethnicity. besides, think about it, just cause your a white person(if you are) doesn't mean your the same race as your best friend if they're white. Theres Germans, Swedes, French, English, Polish, Ukranian, Italian, all those races are generally white in skin tone, but they are definitly not the same people! and no one treats them differently! So why should we treat people with different skin tones differently? i think interracial dating is perfectly acceptable, its all supposed to be about love anyway, not skin tone! cool
p.s.
i don't think religion should be brought into it, because telling people their religion is qrong is basically the same as racism, its called Religious Prejudice, people have a right to believe what they want, and if you think its wrong, thats alright, don't force your religion on them.
Registered: October 28, 2001
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to the one who disagreed, i have a question: you call yourself not a racist, then what's a racist?

you don't have to kick colored people's *** or kill em to be called a racist; by excluding them from your daily life, you already get the good ol' label.

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Registered: February 04, 2002
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I dont get what all the drama is for about people getting a lil crazy and mixing up with other races. We are all the same inside. Looks shouldn't matter and neither should color. In my case...I'm mixed. My mom is black and my dad is white. I turned out just fine!!! As a matter of fact...my 3 other cousins and my lil bro. all turned out just fine too. For those who don't like the whole mixing things up stuff....GET OVER IT!!!!!, because it is not going to die out any time soon. roll eyes razz cool smile
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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I see where you're coming from now. you seem bitter about religion and I wish you understood the Power of God and the great and wonderful things he does. We are getting into another issue but, if you don't believe in god you can continue to be a productive member of society. You cannot, however understand the precios glories of God. People who don't beleive spend and eternity in Hell, and it is not right to lead a child down a path toward that.

"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

Registered: December 27, 2001
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Dating a person of different race has been a questionable situation for many. It does have its benefits...and its backlashes.

The great thing about dating interracially is that ethnicity is flourished for the benefit of mass civilization. Alexander the Great promoted interracial dating to flourish culture, for what many historians consider a prime point for his career...and ethnic understanding among others.

However, many times the childeren of those that date interracially are often confused on terms of religion. The biggest question proposed by these children are "What is my relgion?" That question will generally lead to others, such as "Who am I?", or "What do I believe in?" This will just deem lack of emotional dependence among children.

Personally, I feel that though I don't believe much in interracial dating, I still don't condemn those who do, for they only follow what they beleive is right.

Registered: December 16, 2001
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I think it is up to that person and who the choose to date..that is just my opinion on interrracial dating..it's about love not your skin color

Registered: February 12, 2002
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I repeat: religion and morality are NOT mutually-inclusive, and no religionist has any evidence to the contrary.

I am an Atheist and I practice moral behavior. The only thing religion has above Atheism in "teaching" morality is scaring children into believing things. If and when I have children, I will not teach them fairy tales about how morality came about or how punishment comes from an impotent source. I will explain right and wrong, I will not beat it into them. Morality is not passed down from above. If it is, why would our ape cousins practice the same behavior? Is this just further evidence of the power and glory of the "Lord?"

Nevermind the Inquisition, the Crusades, or the Burning Times, religion is good for everyone, right?

I will not teach my children that everyone of all colors are equal; I will teach them that there is no such thing as race, and that people are people. They will know that there are those who are intentially ignorant to this fact.

You may not claim to be a "racist" but religious intolerance and ignorance of the facts is just as terrible.

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Registered: August 30, 2001
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hey all....
I just posted then looked down to read the other posts.... when I said children need direction I was NOT agreeing with Bushsupporter that people who don't beleive in God can't raise their children right. I'm just saying I don't think it's fair to the child if 2 people who have a different religion (whether it's Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism (SP?) Hinduism, whatever)
decide to give their kids none just because they can't come to a decision. personally, I think everyone needs some sort of religion but that doesn't mean people who don't have one are bad people or bad parents

~dreamwriter~

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Registered: August 30, 2001
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hey--
I think that there's nothing wrong with marrying someone of a different religion, you just have to be willing to compromise and make decisions. I agree w/ Bushsupporter that children do need direction. it is wrong to raise your children with no religion at all and just hope they'll pick one when they turn 18 because you're can't make a decision.
decisions can be made, though. my mom is a Lutheran (Christian) and my dad was Jewish. before they got married, they decided to raise their kids as Christians. growing up, I went to church and learned about the old and new testaments. we celebrated christmas and hanukkah (sp?) and other Jewish holidays- we went to our grandparents (on my dad's side) house for Rosh Hoshanah (Jewish New Year)every year. my dad started coming to church with us and when I was in 5th grade he decided to convert. I am an active Lutheran, as is the rest of my family, but we still light a menorah.

compromises between religions can be reached! people should try to be open to compromise.

~ dreamwriter, a Lutheran girl with a Jewish last name who goes to a Catholic school and knows from experience!

Registered: February 14, 2002
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Big deal!! So what if two people of different color or religion fall in love. Let them. They deserve to have the happiness that everyone else does no matter what. When it comes to the children, let them make up their own minds. Present them with both sides of culture and let them choose as they get older. Knowing both sides will only make them that much more aware and intelligent.
Registered: October 12, 2001
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(Sorry about any spelling errors, I'm not a very good speller)

Bushsupporter, you seem to be very religous and nothing anybody can say will change your opinion but I still just want to point out that there are religons that don't believe in God such as Buddism. By your theory, buddists can't rise their children right. There are other paths other than that of God and they aren't necessarly wrong. You can believe whatever you want but I think that you should be a bit more open-minded to other religons.

I think that interracial dating isn't wrong. Love is love wheither you're white, black, brown, or purple. If you really love someone, race shouldn't matter big grin

Registered: January 28, 2002
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To me the biggest (and only) problem with interracial dating or marrying is if the people involved are from such diverse cultures that they believe alot differently and would encounter alot of major conflicts. Of course, there would be this same problem if, say a Chinese man from China and a Chinese woman who grew up in San Francisco were to marry. Now don't get me wrong! I'm not saying that it's wrong to marry someone from a different culture! That's between you and God.
Now, while I have to agree to an extent, with what one of the other noisemakers said about marrying or dating someone of a different religion, I also have to agree with another noisemaker who said that religion has nothing to do with the interracial dating/marrying issue.

I, personally, haven't dated anyone outside of my race, but I've never dated anyone within in my race either, so that doesn't count. To me this really isn't an issue, but I understand that for some people and in some places, it is. If I liked a guy who was black or Hispanic or anyone other race it would be the same as it is if I like a guy who's white: If I was older, depending on the situation, I might go out with him. If I was in love with someone of a different race, I'd marry them. I've known people who were married to each other who were of different races. They were happy and they loved each other, what else is there to say?
I believe that God made us different for a reason. I haven't seen someone from any race yet, that wasn't beautiful. I don't expect to, either.

Cesiley smile(:

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Registered: September 19, 2001
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Yes. People who don't belive in god cannot raise their children right. The right way to raise a child is to nurture them in the power and wonder of the Lord. If one doesn't beleive in God then he cannot do this can he?

"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

Registered: October 12, 2001
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Bushsupporter are you saying that people who don't believe in God are unable to rise their children right or did I just misunderstand you?
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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1. Religion and morals are mutually exsclusive. Someone who does not believe in God cannot raise thier child to distinguish between Thruth and Lies. They don't have god in thier lives and therefore are vulneable to the power of Satan.

2. Childeren are vulnerable and impulsive and will believe whatever ther friends believe. It is a parents job to make sure they don't beleive in the wrong things. It is not forcing, it is direction.

3. I am not sure what this has to do with anything so I won't attempt to respond to it.

You may certainly believe that religion doesn't matter, but that doesn't make it true. You'll find out when the world ends what power God posses.

Good job at putting words in my mouth. This is the classic liberal way to "prove" a point. Achild won't kill himself, but he will not know who to turn to for the truth. I am not talking about 17 yr olds here. I am talking about young developing minds.

Direction is not letting the child do whatever he wants and putting your two cents in whenever. It is showing him the way, holding his hand and leading him down the correct path. If this is done right, there is no temptation to stray when he grows older.

P.S. I won't stoop to your level.

Registered: February 13, 2002
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i actually find it offensive that people still even consider race an issue! (just a note..a christian having conflicts with marrying a jew is not a racial issue, but a religious, a whole other discussion). when i see people, i dont see a race, but how they dress themselves, and their facial/body expressions. my first boy friend was hispanic (im "non-white hispanic" <-my political correctness for the day). honestly, i never saw him as a hispanic, and i never thought of him as 'that race.' i only remember that we were different in that way when others would say 'are you with that hispanic?' that was aggravating. the only reason we broke up is because he moved out of state. race is nothing, its no who we are, or what we are, its just where are ancessestors came from. im sure, thats a controversial, statement, but if any focus is needed to be put on any part of our backgrounds, it should be our culture (which i also dont agree very much with, being in America as i am.) im going further than Michael J. when he said 'it doesnt matter if youre black or white.' im thinking more along the lines of 'it doesnt matter if your..um...oh yeah, white, or..uh, black' the point being that we shouldnt even notice race, let alone have colors representing them. but i suppose until my ideal world of noone caring about a person's race, we're all homosapians and we've adapted over the years to the environment, changing our outside characteristics...but we're all one big squishy family!
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Registered: February 13, 2002
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there is nothing wrong dating outside your race. if u really think about it we are all the same, just different colors! if a white and a black person want to date each other (or any other race) thats their decision and nobody can do anything about it.
Registered: February 13, 2002
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Interracial dating is nothing bad. I am in an interracial relationship right now and although it may be a little awkward, we love each other and that's what matters. And this thing about the "what is it gonna do to the children?", well, this will actually help out the children because most of the time in one clique there is all white people and in another clique there is all black people. If a child is both black and white, it will give them access to both of those cliques. If we seperate one race from another, then we are going back to the old ways of segregation and its almost like we are going back to slavery. All people are the same in God's eyes. He sees not what color a person is but he sees how a person lives. "All men were created equal."
Registered: February 12, 2002
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In response to Bushsupporter's disagreement:

1. Raising a child to believe and practice good morals has little to do with religious belief. Morality and religion are not mutually-inclusive. An Atheist can raise his/her child to believe right and wrong just as well as anyone from any religious background.

2. A child's free thought cannot be rightfully controlled by his/her father's religion. Guidelines and standards of the human condition are one thing, but forcing a child to always conform to one specific philosophy is another.

3. Disagreement does not mean failure. The ultimate goal is understanding, not repeating several general concepts about aviation then pushing the kid off a cliff, expecting him/her to fly.

You may certainly believe that religious disagreements may somehow spell the end of the world for your child, destined to become a mass murderer, but that doesn't make it true.

I know of many times my parents have had disagreements, but I paid little mind to killing myself over it.

You speak of "direction" but direction often requires of a parent observance and listening in addition to instruction.


P.S. Bushsupporter.. what a horrid name to use.

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Registered: September 30, 2001
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its not a bad thing, actually its a very good thing. im ethiopian and my bf is italian and mexican and i love him to death, no one or no color can change that. love is love it doesnt matter about color. dont put children into this. i mean if you love someone, their race shouldnt be a problem, and if you guys have children it just shows that them that love is the most powerful thing....
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