I have a question; Why is it okay and encouraged for african americans to have "black pride" or for asians to take pride in their race and so on and so forth. But when a white guy has white pride it's immediately racist? That makes no sense what so ever to me. I mean we want to solve racism but we do it by picking everyone else up and bringing ourselves down? Hell that's still racism. We've just reversed the polarity on it. It's encouraged for most ethnicities to take pride in their race and people but if I take pride in my race? I'm just another nazi.

So what are your thoughts? is pride for everyone okay? does pride always equal supremeacy? or should the caucasians just keep their heads down for crap they never even did?

I don't know. I think there's a very big difference between having black pride and having white pride. Mostly because black people in this country are a minority who have been discriminated against and oppressed and just plain treated like shit for years, while whites are the dominant race and you could say were the oppressors. I think having black pride could be just a way of telling people to stick up for themselves, to celebrate their accomplishments in fighting racism, and mostly an attempt to get rid of this "internalized racism" lots of people probably have without even realizing it. I don't know. I honestly don't get what the problem is. Every fucking day is about white pride.

People should be proud of their accomplishments, not their background or hair color or sexual orientation. I've always found the gay/black/Asian pride movements to be stupid for that very reason. But things like the "straight pride" movement have always seemed especially vicious, just because straight people are a strong majority that is almost never persecuted against and there's really only one major alternative to being straight. Announcing you're proud you're straight is really just announcing you're proud you're not gay.

Sphinx raises a good point about patriotism, but I'm not gonna touch it because I don't want people to psycho-analyze sports team allegiance.

I would say it depends on what you think showing pride is. When I hear the words "black pride", I usually assume it means not letting anoyone bad mouth your race, but if it means that you think blacks are better than everyone else then it's definitely racism. I've never really understood the concept of being proud of the colour of my skin, it's just the way I was born; same goes for patriotism. Perhaps it's more about being proud of who you are as a whole, as a whatever-race-you-are person?

I want to add that I also don't like the concept of people making a concious effort to buy from people of their race, like it's more important to keep others "like you" in buisness. It would definitely be discouraged for whites to try to stick with their own in that sort of way, so it's not really fair to discriminate against whites and be so against their buisnesses doing well.

I do hate that the majority is, in almost all communities, seen as the oppressors or at least as some unliked powerful force. Race has very little to do with how powerful you are nowadays.