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Registered: February 19, 2004
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Did you know that the average life span of a healthy *straight* male is 75? And that the average life span of a healthy (meaning doesnt have AIDs) *gay* male is 45? What does that tell you?
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Registered: October 05, 2002
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I just find it ironic when a lot of people seem to be saying "oh, it's against most religions to allow same-sex marriages." That may be true but it's also against those same religions to judge others. Just take a good look at the book before you try and use it.
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Registered: July 06, 2003
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ok for everyone that is saying if they're happy let them do whatever. well some sick twisted people also find happiness in murder, drugs, robbery, child molesting, beating, canabolism, rape and much more. that doesn't mean they should be alowwed to do whatever makes them happy. and yes they do pay taxes and everything else just like straight people but so do the criminals. and sometimes medling in other peoples affairs is necessary. would you just stand there and watch if you saw someone kidnapping someone? oh ofcourse "you shouldnt medle in peoples affairs get off you high horses"(sarcasm) and no homosexuality does not cause diseases unsafe unprotected sex does anyone strait or gay can get stds and aids. as for thinking of the kids i dont think you should stop gays from adopting would you rather have them spend the rest of their life in orphanages or a different foster home every other week? just because they are gay doesnt mean they cant take care of a kid. i dont support gay marraiges because it is just the first step to alowwing other wrong things. and homosexuality is wrong because it is physically impossible for two same sex people to be together sexually why do you think males and females have different counterparts? and they say they are born with it i say ha that is just an excuse they all use to try to get people to accept them easier if they think they were born like that. i am sorry if i offended anyone that was not my intention if i did love me 
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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this stuff about marriages being religious and only between men and women is silly. come on, how religious is the majority of the population anyway? for the most part, our laws are NOT based off of religious ideas. going on the norms of our society, i guess it is ok for male and females to marry numerous times, but if a homosexual person finds their one, they arent allowed to be bound together? Religion isnt an excuse for what others believe in, it is something to teach you about how to be a good person. There isn't proof that God even made people, it is the belief. If God doesnt want people to kill each other, then how come there is the term "holy war"? thats quite funny. I dont know what that person was on about, about how it's bad to have kids see same sex couples. together, or even be adopted by some. Just because their parents are gay doesnt mean that they'll morph into it. I dont get how those straight couples can have kids when some are incredibly stupid, frivolous, and cuss at their kids. Or have soo many that they can't even care for them. What is this about hermaphrodites?? hermaphrodites are people without any sex organs! they are neither male nor female! ok...i agree about the laws before that were against minorities, they are biased. gays are looked down upon because that is their instinctive desire towards people. Don't you know that every girl is naturally a bit bisexual?? should a homosexual person be deprived of a mate because they are the way they are? or forced to marry the opposite sex because that is what some prude people think so to make themselves happy? Marrying a lamppost? if u really want to...but the thing is, the culture of other nations DO allow kids to marry when they are about 13 or so. Are you putting down other cultures because they are different? Do you want everyone to conform to this one idea? this one faith? cram this one "right" way into people's minds and turn them into robots? Aids happens most between teenage boys and girls...you can't blame it on same sex partners. everyone has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. *phew*
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Registered: July 26, 2003
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Everything that I've ever been taught has said that being homosexual is wrong. But there are so many people who have homosexual feelings, which a lot of others are constantly saying are wrong. Really, I don't see how a person would make something like that up, and we're not going to change how they feel. It isn't our place to judge. It is no one's place to tell a gay person that he/she cannot get married or love someone of the same sex. Even though I may not agree with homosexuality, because I don't have those feelings and therefore have trouble understanding, I know it is absolutely wrong to tell someone how to feel. Anyway...They should be able to get married if they want to ****ing get married. And AIDS does not come from homosexuality. That misconseption came up when AIDS first became more common in the US and appeared more often in the gay community. But it definitely doesn't come from homosexuality. 
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Registered: November 06, 2003
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I think trying to stop homosexuals from getting married is discrimination plain and simple. In the state of California it is legal for first cousin's to marry so why not to adults of the same gender who love each other. I mean they pay taxes and contribute to the community just like everyone else. I strongly sympathize with the movement because they attempted to stop African American's for marrying too; they have the right of "Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and if that happiness comes from being married i saw throw some rice and get a cake!
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Registered: February 10, 2004
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I am very pleased that they are finally letting gays get married. I personally think it is a very good thing. If you love someone enough to want to be with them the rest of your life I think you sahould be. I am very for it. I am very happy that they are finally alwoing it because who is to say that two people who love eachother are not allowed to get married.
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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I think that same sex marriages are the most disgusting thing to happen to society. "Marriage" is something that happens between a man and a woman. In case no one has noticed, God created people with male and female counterparts so that they fit together. Literally. Just because the gay and lesbian population believes that they are treated unfairly doesn't mean that states should go about changing all of their laws that were made a long time ago to suit the homosexuals. I was thrilled to hear that Massachusetts was fighting against allowing the homosexuals the right to marriage. People are constantly making excuses for them because they believe these few were born homosexual. I think that is a crock. Hermaphrodites are one thing, but this homosexuality is another.
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Registered: July 14, 2003
Posts: 147
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Registered: October 19, 2003
Posts: 2
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Same sex marriage should be legal. It's their lives and they should pick how they want to live it. I think people need to grow up and realize just because something isn't what they would do, doesn't mean they have to critize it. I am doing this topic for my civics project and I am appalled to see how many people are against gay marriage. People need to get off their high horse and see that we are all the same, no matter if we're straight, bi, or gay.
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Registered: August 08, 2003
Posts: 2
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I agree that gay couples have the right to a "marriage" and that this right was given to them through civil unions. I do not see the need for having a marriage license to confirm this union. A civil union grants them all of the benifits of a marriage and thus in a sense is a marriage without having the same termonology. I feel that the debate isn't whether or not they have a right to a marriage, but if they can gain public support for such an action.
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Registered: July 14, 2003
Posts: 147
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uh, Genius, read my post...
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Registered: July 03, 2002
Posts: 54
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I am against gay marriages. What's happening in San Francisco is basically a great number of people breaking the law. It's like saying, "Hey, I think the law is wrong when it states I can't smoke weed...It makes me happy and I'm going to do it anyway". Laws are made for a reason, you cannot break one just because you don't think it's fair. I am for civil unions- citizens can get the same exact benefits and considerations under the law. If the big complaint is civil equality, then there's your answer. Marriage is a religious institution. It is a sacred bond made "before God", the first social institution created, and mentioned in the Bible. Why must the issue be pushed to have "gay marriage" and not civil unions? I don't know if anyone here watches "The O'Reilly Factor", but Bill puts it perfectly: if you destroy the concept of marriage as a union between one man and one woman, pandora's box is opened and ANYONE can marry anyone else. Joe Schmoe can marry a lamppost if he wants. Or 14 yr old twin girls. Society keeps moving towards a state of no boundaries, no laws and no norms. The new natural law is "I will do whatever makes me happy". Obviously people are people and no one should judge anyone...so if someone is gay and is in a relationship so be it. I'm happy for you-get your civil union and live your life as "soulmates". Marriage is not a "bond before God made between one man and one man...one woman and one woman". Craziness
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Registered: July 17, 2003
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I agree with same sex marriages. I mean it's not up to the rest of America to deside if someone can get married or not. I was reading what some people said before about homosexuality causing AIDS, well that is not right, unprotected sex is what causes AIDS.
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Registered: July 14, 2003
Posts: 147
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1. the main problem with the argument that compares being gay to pedophelia, beastiaility [sic so it's allowed], or polygamy is this: In the case of the first two, the sex is nonconsentual *child under eighteen=jailbait,* and can therefore not be made legal. END OF STORY. In the case of the third, a friend of mine puts it best. "While you may find two people mature enough to handle a polymorous relationship, you'll never find three."
2. "Marrige is sacred, and has always been defined as between a man and a woman" Marrige is a binding contract between two persons, and recognized by the stste and nation as such. It entitles to the contract-bound persons many rights and liberties not available otherwise. That is hardly sacred. "has always been defined as between a man and a woman" In the 1950's, black persons were "always considered less" than white persons. Did that make segregation and alienation of civil rights morally correct?
3. I Love Cali.
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Registered: February 19, 2004
Posts: 2
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Hey, I think that if those people love eachother enough to get married in front of all of those people and maybe even embarrass themselves then thats their problem. Why do people always want to interfere with people's love affairs anyway? My god they already have the stagitory rape thing. Why do they want to mess up everything those people worked for? I don't think those people would like it if there was a law saying only blonds could marry brunettes. (there aren't that many natural blonde males that I know of)But, those people should always have their own rights and no-one should interfere with that. It's their life and they should be able to do what ever they want. No-one should say that you can't get married because your gay. It's their desicion and they are grown and I think they can decide what they want for them selves. (I'm sorry if I offended anyone by my writings I've done that before on accident)
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Registered: August 03, 2002
Posts: 2
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Okay well this is what i feel. I REALLY REALLY dissagree with being gay, it goes against everything i believe in. But i don't think we can get out of have gay marriages now, because we already told them it was alright to be gay. So now saying no you cant get married is discriminating, its kinda like you can only have one cookie and there are ten sitting in front of you and you cant go around them. Laws are based on religion and most religions, look at it someone didnt just say o we shouldnt kill be just cuz no they said it cause the belived it was wrong. But we let these people go against every thing and now we are stuck so no matter how much it kills me i have to say let them get married cuz there is nothing i can do to stop it!!!
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Registered: September 11, 2003
Posts: 2
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Three cheers for San Francisco! In answer to jmsk8r's posting, AIDS does not "come from homosexuality." Unprotected sex, both homosexual and heterosexual, can spread HIV, as can dirty needles. I think it's hilarious that Britney Spears went through the Tunnel of Vows in Las Vegas the same week bigoted politicians touted the "sanctity of marriage."
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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Hello all, newbie here...
By saying that I am against same-sex marriages would be a biased opinion. While some people are disgusted by the thought of people in same-sex relationships, it is not right to judge them. If it is their will to get married, then so be it; after all, the Constitution possesses no such laws forbidding same-sex marriages. I do not understand why people have such a big problem with same-sex marriages. They are just meddling with the affairs of others. I understand that maybe it goes against some or all religions to have the same-sex marriage; however, it is understood that no human is perfect, and if they find happiness with the person that is of the same gender as them, then we should let them be. I mean let me ask a question— would you rather witness a man and a woman in an abusive relationship or 2 people of the same sex that are in a non-abusive, loving relationship?
~Julie
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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I think its so wrong becuase now tht we're accepting gay marriages we're opening doors for them and now its going to be crazy with all the gay couples and wat kind of influence is that to younger kids? Especially to those adopted into gay marriages and i think before accepting it we should first consider the children first!
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