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Registered: May 23, 2003
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Wow, by saying that there is one true god, you show that you are not a valid participant in any debate ever.

Bill O'Reilly is such a horr...
Registered: March 02, 2004
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ok come on really have you read the bible??? It was written by none other than followers of the true god. Do you know what it said??? No same sex marriages. The most ironic part of this is that they got married in the house of god Eek and he is the one who forbids it...all that were involved were sinning. not like we all dont sin but really living a sin is not good for your record. i hate to tell you but the cristians are going to say that it is wrong because that is how it is. love the sinner hate the sin.
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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"""i can't read all that"""
___Then don't.

___It may not be as bad as a pointless topic, but a pointless message is still a no-no.
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Registered: August 26, 2003
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u write 2 much. i can't read all that sh!t. damn.
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Registered: July 03, 2002
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Law, Order and the Left
By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Feb 26, 2004

The rule of law--it's what America is based on. We have very specific rules in this country designed to promote the general welfare and protect the citizenry, and if we don't obey those laws, we are punished. That's the way it's supposed to work.
Judge Roy Moore did not obey the law. He defied a Federal court order to remove a statue of The Ten Commandments he had placed in the courthouse where he worked as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. So his fellow justices fired him as they should have. Hundreds of newspapers across the country applauded that action on their editorial pages.

"His supporters don't see (Moore) as the scofflaw that he is," the Washington Post opined, "a man who feels free to ignore the constitutionally designated system by which law is interpreted in a democratic society."

The Orlando Sentinel put forth, "Mr. Moore's style is reminiscent of another popular Alabama politician - George Wallace. Just like Mr. Wallace, Mr. Moore has little respect for the Constitution or the rule of law."

And the San Antonio Express-News put it this way: "Moore's refusal to follow the law was clearly out of bounds."

Very noble, don't you think? Newspapers passionately standing up for the rule of law in the Ten Commandments case. Those editorial writers were certainly looking out for us.

But wait a minute. In San Francisco, Mayor Gavin Newsome has decided that California's law defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman, a law that was voted on directly by the citizens of the Golden State in a proposition, is not worthy of being obeyed. Newsome took a hard look at that marriage law and not only gave it a thumbs down, he gave it a middle finger up.

And by issuing marriage licenses to gay couples himself, Mayor Newsome may have actually broken the law in addition to defying it. California Penal Code Section 115 prohibits the filing or recording of any false instrument in any public office.

Uh-oh.

So I fully expected to see those tough "rule of law" editorials reprised in The Washington Post, the Orlando Sentinel, and the San Antonio Express-News vis-a-vis Newsome. But, alas, they did not appear in those publications or in most other newspapers. Apparently, the law rules in Alabama, but not in San Francisco.

This blatant hypocrisy has landed hard on the doorstep of the American left where Newsome is being hailed as a hero. Apparently, if you break laws that liberals don't like, it's okay, but you had better back off from those troubling Ten Commandments.

If Gavin Newsome really cared about the rule of law, he would have had the San Francisco police chief arrest him. The time honored tradition of civil disobedience is an American strength. But you're supposed to pay a price for that action. Newsome has paid zero. He fought the law and the law lost. California's Attorney General, Bill Lockyer, and Governor Arnold are still hiding under their desks.

What kind of message does this send to Americans who don't like a variety of other laws? What if some California mayor started issuing handgun permits because he believed the Second Amendment was being trashed in the Golden State? You think the media, Governor Arnold and Attorney General Lockyer would do nothing? Yeah, and I'm Annie Oakley.

Either the law rules or it doesn't. And in California and much of the liberal press, it doesn't.
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Registered: July 14, 2003
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I'm so happy for them that they got married *squeal* it's so awsum! I am happy all of them can finally say "my wife" or "my husband". This is so great. No they shouldn't be arrested no the marriages shouldn't be null and void. Let's see if we're all going to die from people loving each other...

much luv

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Registered: August 12, 2003
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ok, first of all...i was just stating my opinion, you know what an opinion is right? everyone has one....and what all of you said about my post is just your opinion. and when a child's mom or dad is gay, it is a possibility that it could bother them, i'm not talking about that it traumatizes them when their parents are gay...the teasing is what could traumatize them. and i don't NEED to get an education....i have one. All of you need to educate yourselves by reading the bible.
Registered: October 30, 2002
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Stupidity: You know, that's an interesting question. I would think that they're allowed to. I'll have to look that up.
Registered: February 13, 2004
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i think this is SO stupid! If they wanna get married then god dammit let them get married!!!! UGH it's no one else's business who people are dating...i don't see what the big deal is b/c they r the same sex! i mean it's not like gay people do anything to us u know so why is it such a big deal?!? damn it makes me mad just let them fricken get married if they want to. I mean isn't America about having Freedom? Well I don't think they are getting too much so called "Freedom" in America if they can't marry who they want to marry. Anyone else agree??
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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___Are straight people allowed to get civil unions?
Registered: October 30, 2002
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"Bush got it right, NO GAY MARRIAGE! But unions are ok."

Got to agree with you there. But they need to expand the benefits provided by Civil Unions.
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Registered: October 09, 2001
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Love it Poncho! Glad you see it that way.

I for one can say that I was at San Francisco city hall two weekends ago to witness good friends from my church (lesbians) get married. They have been together for 21 years and are thrilled to not only be legally recognized, but joined in holy matrimony.

It was amazing to see couples lined up around the block, and everyone was smiling. It was like a big party. People cheered for each couple that came out the front doors of city hall. It was really cool to see that so many people, both gay and straight, support gay rights. It's not only a battle for legal rights, but also the right to be recognized through marraige, not just civil unions.
Registered: August 16, 2002
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to imaredhead:

ok, that is just retarded. one thing about legalizing gay marriage everywhere, is that it iwll hopefully help make people more accepting of it. in 20 years from now, gay marriage will be a norm. look twenty years back, it wasnt accepted at all, now it is a bit...

anyway, most kids who come form a family with a mom and dad are screwed up. the parents end up divorcing half of the time anyway, then kids end up with two moms and two dads once their parents re-marry. do you know how traumatizing THAT is? obviously not, or you wouldnt have made such a stupid comment. but I do.


and what about all of the gay children in need of adoptive parents? this gives them the oppurtunity to be with people who understand them and can help them through things. imagine a gay person making the same kind of comment you jsut made, only the other way around "can you imagine how traumatized gay children are when they have straight parents?" and that sort of thing.

besides, every kid gets picked on for one reason or another, whether it be because they are "fat" or "ugly" or they themselves are gay. it happens for one reason or another. maybe instead of making gay marriage illigal to prevent kids being teased (which is a stupid reason anyway) maybe we need to look at all the a-holes who are doing the teasing. maybe there STRAIGHT parents are all f*cked up and the child is now traumatized therefor picking on other kids, maybe THAT is the problem.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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omg i think that we should just allow gay marriages. and how do u noe kids would be tramatized? everyone is like gay marriages r wrong and its distgusting what they do with their lives and so on. what they do is up to them, im not saying lets all turn gay, but they too are human and anyone should be allowed to marry the one that they love whether it be of a different sex or not. and gay people arent doing anything wrong unless u call loving someone wrong. another thing is that a bunch of people are like yea im not prejudice but then you ask them their opinion on gay marriages theyre all like oh no they cant get married its discusting what they are doing. so were basically going all the way back to the 1700s and undoing everything that ppl have done up to now to ensure the freedom of everyone and natural rights are just going right out the window. the constitution does say that every man was created equal, so that means that all men and women should get the same rights. thats all i have to say for now but ill be back
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Registered: May 23, 2003
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Imaredhead, you have no proof of anything you said, shut up. You just tried to argue for discrimination using the argument that discrimination already exists. Wow. You suck. Go to "in your face and in your school." Or go get an education. I don't know. But be quiet.

Ahhhhh, Keith Knight....awesome comic strip...awesome band...born in Boston...he would have a hard time getting cooler.
Registered: August 12, 2003
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I don't think that there should be gay marriages. I mean, gah...just think about all the kids who are gonna be affected. Instead of having a mom and dad they're gonna have 2 dads or either 2 moms....does anyone not see how that is going to traumatize them? or am i just crazy? Kids get teased for EVERYTHING....and everyone has read about or heard about the children who get picked on due to the fact that thier mom/dad/relative is gay. And, in my opinion, if the world keeps going in the direction that it is, it's gonna go to hell in a handbasket. No i do not have a prob. with gay/lesbian people, one of my friends is a lesbian...and i don't look upon her with disgust and i don't judge her, but i still don't think that gay marriage should be legal.
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Registered: November 30, 2003
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Bush got it right, NO GAY MARRIAGE! But unions are ok.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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All I have to say is MORE POWER TO THEM! Those couples stood out in the rain all night to get their licenses, and most came a long way. In my eye, this is like a civil disobedience protest. If a law sucks as much as this one does, you have to take steps to change it.
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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yet they did say in god we trust. as in the bible. i mean come on people. it is just wrong. not to mintion stupid.
/dttsf

They came to the Americas for freedom from religion, and that is written into the constitution as "Freedom of Religion". There are many "Gods" that people believe in, not just the bible. I could make a bible and say I'm the chosen Daughter of God, and tell everyone that homosexual marriages are ok. There is no definitive bible, nor is there a "one" God. Therefore that arguement is invalid.

As for the "just wrong" part, I can give you a whole list of things that I think are wrong. I'm a vegetarian. I think eating meat is wrong. But, people say we're naturally omnivores('scuze the spelling) and I agree. But, I still think its wrong to eat meat. However, I wont limit the public to consuming it.
People think homosexuality is wrong. Well, its natural. People are attracted to a certain sex. But even if you think its wrong, you cant limit a persons preferences.
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