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Registered: August 16, 2002
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ok, first off, a little "what if" scenario...

what if the bible had been writted by a gay person, and made the bible say that gay marriage/relationships were the "right" way of living, and that people who have been with the opposite sex should be put to death? what if the laws also said that only gay couples could get married?

so, to put it all together, imagine that the "norm" was to be gay. how would you, as a heterosexual feal? you would have to fight the government to be able to marry the person you love! can you imagine, not being able to marry someone, just because the bible/lawa say so. i mean, you are all so lucky a homosexual didnt right all those things!

now also, imagine you didnt believe in the bible (maybe you dont have any religion, maybe you have a different religion)and you couldnt marry the person you loved because a book that means nothing to you says so. is that fair?

christianity is not THE religion you guys. some religions say being homosexual is ok, why are those views ignored?

i think that laws from over 200 years ago should not be something that you are proud of, but something you should be ashamed of. really, you are still living in the 1800's and i think you need to maybe update your laws... modernize them...

anyway, as you probably already know, this is the view of a lesbian, and for all who say "gay sex is sick, gross, discusting!" well, do you realize that some gays can't imagine having sex with the opposite sex? really, all in all, gays and straights are the same, we all just want to be loved, and be ALLOWED to love.

anyways, i stand by the following quote: "homosexuality is just mother nature's birth control"
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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"""what is going to happen next? is there going to be some law suite because some stupid gay or lesbian couple got a divorce? then what? are they going to make that illigle too? oh boy. some couple got divoreced now we are going to have to make a law aginst it. they wanted to get married now they want a divorce? that is just plain stupid guys."""

___Divorce is legal for heterosexual people. Why do you insist on treating people with different sets of standards because of their sexual orientation? All American citizens deserve the same set of rights and freedoms as everyone else. Neither your god or your religion rules the country, it only rules the people who choose to follow it. There is a difference between having a religion and having a government. Is it really so stupid to think a government based on equality is the right way to go?
Registered: October 19, 2003
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look guys. i am about the same on this as with abortion. i don' think it should be legal but it is don't think same sex marige should be legal either. i don't have any defence on this subject what so ever. but i just no it is wrong. look if the founding fathers didn't have anything wrong with it they would have said so. they said nothing about it. yet they did say in god we trust. as in the bible. i mean come on people. it is just wrong. not to mintion stupid. what is going to happen next? is there going to be some law suite because some stupid gay or lesbian couple got a divorce? then what? are they going to make that illigle too? oh boy. some couple got divoreced now we are going to have to make a law aginst it. they wanted to get married now they want a divorce? that is just plain stupid guys.
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Registered: March 19, 2003
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I don't see a promblem with them getting married.. Seriuosly are they hurting you ? no. They don't start *****ing when straight couples get married why should we ***** when they do. They just want to be happy why deny them that.
Registered: January 28, 2004
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Look around you, there are homosexuals out there right now, letting them get married isnt going to mess up the famliy unit. Yes the principle of what a famliy is will change, however, it will still be close to the same, what are gay people gonna have kids, how test tube babies? If anything they will adopt and they will be there own happy little famliy, you call that moral decline? Taking away the happiness of a group thats got plenty and giving it to a group that has so little. The Untied States doesnt need to rewrite it constition and its laws, it just needs to stick to the pricniples given years ago by the fathers of the constition. This is just another step in our contrys trip to becoming a nation as old as France or England. They have been around the block a few more times than we have, they have already gone thru this, now it is our young countrys turn.
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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"""in the long run, it will save our country from the moral decline that has already begun."""
___What is immoral to you is merely your opinion of what immoral is. Your opinion however does not run the world, America, or me.

"""What have we once the natural family unit is gone? A society consisting of unnatural, man-made units is a society that will fall"""
___It will only fall in your opinion, I do no think believing in our Nation's ideals of freedom and equality will destroy society. In fact, I think being fair will bring us closer together if anything at all.
Registered: February 24, 2004
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I see you people saying that "i think that this should be the first giant step to getting USA to rewrite their laws." Since when do we want our Constitution to be rewritten? Our Constitution- our nation's laws- have been in effect for over 200 years- longer than any other nation's laws. DO you think this is because they are flawed? Do you think this is because they do not work? NO! We do not want a rewrite of the very basis of our government, which has effectively proven to be efficient since the dawn of America itself.
And concerning same sex marriage:
This is the first step to destroying the family unit. Laws prohibiting same sex marriage will no doubt affect the way gays will have to live their lives, but in the long run, it will save our country from the moral decline that has already begun. What have we once the natural family unit is gone? A society consisting of unnatural, man-made units is a society that will fall.
Registered: January 28, 2004
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This is yet another issue that conflicts with what should be the United States biggest policy, separtion of church and state. Gay marragies happen in a church, hence it is religous, the goverment has no buisness regulating who can and cant be married, that is part of a groups religion. Yes for the religion fantics it is against gods will, however we can not stop them we can attempt to persaude them. The recent years we have seen more problem with seperation of church and state than many others, this is just another one. The goverment should not pass any admendment making gay maggiages illegal, this would seriouly violate this seperation. I am a supporter of Bush, but his recent desicion on supporting the banning is really making me have second thoughts about his true intentions. Cool
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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yeah the bible needs an update
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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if ur gay ur gay, so i say to all straight folks who dont like same-sex daters/marriages, suck it up. we aint in the middle ages anymore. ppl are free to choose now. and isnt it better that a gay man/ lesbian marry the person they want instead of lying to their kids and husbads/wives for years so that later they can find out and there would be like a mini-war??? if u love peace, then open up to gay and lesbian weddings. its gonna be legal someday, maybe in 50 years or more, but itll happen, bc Bush and the other ppl who have closed-up head will opend up to reality.
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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___I have a one word opinion of people who are against freedom and equality... "DISTURBING!!!"
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Registered: September 13, 2001
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I have just a one word opinion for same sex marriages... "YUCK!!!!"
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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___I'm in love with the preceeding post. *tears up* It was beautiful.
Registered: July 03, 2002
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There's no need to pick on each other! Bottom line with all this gay marriage ish, is that basically the world is going down the drain anyway- and for all of those who said that gay marriage isn't any worse than our ridiculous divorce rate, you're absolutely correct. What people tend to forget, due to excessive media coverage over this one issue, is that the gay US population is only about, I don't know, 10-20% the total pop'l? Compare that to the vaaaaast majority of people living together before marriage, divorcing etc. I forget who said it, but they were right: sin is sin to God. It's all equal. And also, probably said before--if you aren't Christian, God's law (ie the Bible) doesn't apply to you. If I tell someone to not do something because it's a sin, they're gonna look at me like I'm bananas. We're all only in control of our own actions, so yes I am going to say to others that the Bible says homosexuality is wrong- but I also understand that it's not my responsibility or right to force God's word onto people who don't even believe in Him. Also-whoever made a comparison to slavery and pre-Civil Movement issues and saying the Bible justified such ill behavior.. you're wrong. The Bible doesn't say that we should discriminate by color. Example: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28. Clearly this speaks against discrimination. Personally, yes I think gay marriage is an abomination to the Lord. But I don't sit here and judge gay people (and yes I do know a few). Just b/c some people posting say they think the same as I do, doesn't necessarily mean they are "judging". Once again: hate the sin, not the sinner. Everyone's screwed up, we're all in the same boat and no one's better than anyone else. "There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and destroy: who art thou that judgest another?" James 4:12.
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Registered: April 27, 2002
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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___I'm not made of money. Buy yourself a ticket, you freeloader.
Registered: February 23, 2004
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will you send me a ticket to Montserrat, the emerald jewel of the carib, so we can discuss?

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Registered: November 11, 2003
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"""Do you not like people with diverse opinions that are different from your own?"""
___I only can't stand other's opinions when they get mixed up as to what an opinion actually is. Stop pretending that your beliefs equal everyone else's truth. Using the word "truth" nonchalantly to me, constitutes as something worth getting upset over. What you believe is true, is not the same thing as what is true.
Registered: February 23, 2004
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Stupidity (why such a self-deprecating name?), you obviously like personal attacks. Do you not like people with diverse opinions that are different from your own? Why do want to discriminate against me?

p.s. can I come over to Montserrat, the emerald jewel of the caribbean, and visit you (maybe stay awhile)...I need to study what makes you so intolerant of other people. What is the temperature there right now?? Big Grin
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Registered: November 11, 2003
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Idiocy like nggzcraz's is a filthy, disease-ridden practice explicitly condemned by me.

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