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Registered: November 02, 2001
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i see nothing wrong with gay marriages. if they love each other let them marry each other. and people say that it is wrong based on religion, that is not a good reason to make it illegal. besides doesn't the constitution call for the seperation of stae and church. well then if a church wants to marry a gay couple the state should stay out. and it is not illegal in all states just some of the more, lets say, prejudice, all though i don't beleive that is right, states. besides why is it everyones business if they want to get married. it's not like the are doing anything wrong on any level but on a religious one. and only some religions have a problem with them. i think that as soon as people can come up with a list of reasons why it should not be allowed that are not based in anyway in religion then it may be considered although it would still be wrong to make it illegal.
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Registered: July 07, 2003
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It's funny how a celebrity like Britney Spears is able to marry and divorce someone overnight (talk about keeping marriage sacred! hypocrites...most of the ones who say "marriage is sacred" are usually the un-religous people who ignore the Bible but hypocritically use it to opress others) yet two loving people who've been together for years can't celebrate and ordain their commitment (not saying that all homosexuals are commited...that has nothing to do with it...there are good heteros and bad heteros...good homosexuals and bad homosexuals etc etc).

Hopefully years from now we'll be thinking back to this era and say "what were we thinking?" Same as the segregation debate and bi racial marriage debates in the 60s. Heck, Bible verses have been used to defend slavery! Imagine that.

If homosexuality is indeed wrong, then God forgive me...but until now I'll maintain my accepting -and loving- beliefs toward homosexual people.


Hey check out the book of samuel, 16-18...theres a part of the Bible they dont teach you about in school! Two men falling in love with each other, "their souls knitting"....Some versions of the Bible blur this part out...talk about distorting our Lord's word!

The 'haters' are hypocrites...it's ok to show people on tv cheating on their spouses and doing all sorts of nasty sexual stuff...but if two men or women were to hold hands, man would that cause a riot!!!

Also it's funny how orientation doesn't matter when it comes to collecting taxes. Just when giving out rights...yup. The hypocrism is dripping sick.

We sure need Jesus in this world...people don't get the point, aside from saving us, he also came to destroy the sick strict legalism of the times...taught us to not focus so much and obssesively on the "rules" but on what's "right" (ie the story of the good samaritan...the guy broke the "no work on sabbath rule" to save a man on the road).

*sighs*
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Registered: May 23, 2003
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I belive that gay people should have just as many rights as gay people. People keep talking about Civil Unions, sayinf that it gives all the same rights as marriage. But that's not the point, the point is, America is supposed to be based on equality. The fact of the matter is gay's aren't allowed marraige because they're different. I believe that this is completely againts the constitution and that all these people say marriage is for a man and a woman are just afraid of change. Roll Eyes
Registered: February 11, 2004
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Well, I've been raised around an environment where my parents teach me that what people think of you is all that matters. Is that why people are scared to come out and tell the world that they are are different. I'm not homosexual and I don't know anyone who is. But if I did the first thing I would do is not judge them. Lord knows I have no place to judge anyone but myself. Let God hadle the judge, after all he is the eternal judge. until thn, let them live thier lives the way everyone else does, free to express and not to be oppressed. Smile Big Grin Wink Razz Cool Roll Eyes
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Registered: July 18, 2003
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Hi! I have a question. Why is it no one has a problem with gay marriage? Marriage was designed to join a MAN and WOMAN in holy matrimony. I think it is wrong and nasty. God designed marriage to be sacred, and I think people are defiling it through homosexual marriages.
Registered: October 13, 2003
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Is it wrong??? Maybe.
Is it gross??? Possibly to you.
But does that give us room to tell them not to??? No
we can tell them our opinion but they have to choose for themselves, if its a sin then god will take care of them
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Registered: July 31, 2002
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I think that being gay is a sin and contrary to popular belief at my school I am NOT homophobic. I've always lived by the quotes: "Judge not lest ye be judged", "Let thee that are blameless cast the first stone", "Hate the sin, love the sinner".
In fact my cousin is gay.
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Registered: October 18, 2003
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I personally think it's all right. Just because they can't procreate anything. There are straight couples where one or both of them are infertile or they chosse not to have children for whatever reason. You get married because you love someone and want to spend te rest of thier life with that person. I mean you hear a lot of staright people who get married 3 or 4 times but then you hear a lot of these gay or lesbian couples who have together 30, 40 and upwards yet they can't get married because thier love isn't good enough.

I mean when you get a marriage lisecne it means you entitled to the stuff that married people get like joint tax filings and other laws that married people get when they enter marriage. But it's also because you love that person. I'm personally bisexual and if I choose to spend my life that I love, whether they male or female, I feel that I should have a big wedding with no reason to wonder if it will become void before we leave on our honeymoon.

But I wish I could tell my family I'm bi but my mom thinks being bi is worse then being gay ("because how could you like persons of both sexes that's just disgusting"). My mom also opposes gay marriage. If you have a problem with someone being gay or bi then the person who's gay or bi isn't wrong it's you. And for those who thinks god thought it was wrong, who cares what he thinks? Religion is what started this probelm and a lot of these wars. Hey, if you think that I'm lying go look at your school's World History books and then tell me I'm wrong. Cause history never lies but people do. God's whatever you create him to be upon your personal views and beliefs. If you would like to send hate mail my email address is tabbycat11587@comcast.net.

By the way, I'm looking for a guy or girl between 15 and 17.
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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I'm having trouble seeing the other side of this argument. I am hearing that homosexual relationships are immoral, and hey I can't argue with your religion, though I think it's more an excuse for saying what feels safe than anything.

The other message I was reading was that gay relationships can never bear children.

Does that mean that the sole purpose of marriage is having kids? Well then, first let's prohibit any infertile women from getting married. Next all those males out there with reproductive problems: erectile dysfunction, a naturally low sperm count (yeah, anyone who wears tight underwear can't get married, sorry), any man with a vasectomy of course - those are often irreversible, ban them from marriage. You know, married women shouldn't be able to go on the pill. It interferes with their purpose of makin' babies. Get a ring on that finger, and you have to keep popping them out.

I happen to disagree that having kids is the only reason to marry. It's an agreement to share single household, a single life. It's a pledge of trust and commitment. Having children doesn't seem to be a problem for the world today. Thousands need adoption. The technology that brought us test tube babies is opening doors with cloning. That's a whole other topic.

Oh yeah, homosexuals have as much right as anyone else to get married. (had to state my point :P)
Registered: July 25, 2003
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Gay marriage is not about whether or not you agree with the lifestyle. These decisions by San Francisco and the Supreme Court of Massachusettes are legal matters. There are 1,049 benefits and protecctions that the federal government offers to heterosexual couple that gay people do not have access to because they aren't "married." This was found in Time magazine on Feb. 16. There are other benefits that companies and state governments offer that gay couples also do not have access to. Correct me if I'm wrong but do gay people not pay taxes like everyone else? To the young person who didn't bother to cite her facts about the lifespan of gay people, I think all of us would be really interested to know where you got those numbers.
All this political mumbo jumbo about marriage being sacred is complete ludicrous. Almost half of married couples get divorced and society hears all the time about the number of people who get their marriages annulled or about spouses murdering or abusing each other. Marriage is not sacred anymore.
Our Constitution states that everyone shall be created equal under the law. Well, sorry to burst you religious rights' bubble, but that ain't true. Never has been, probably never will be. This step by these two bodies of government are forcing people to look at the legality of banning gay marriage and denying homosexuals the same rights as heterosexuals.
To the girl who says that gay people are wrong because they can't procreate must think that an elderly couple shouldn't be allowed to marry because they are beyond the age of becoming parents. Or maybe, couples that are heterosexual that cannot have children due to some medical circumstance can't get married either. If her whole basis for marriage is procreation, then many older couples and many infertile couples should be banned from getting married. Does this sound right to any of you out there?

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Registered: August 21, 2002
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I have been brought up to believe in same sex marriages only. Now that I am 17 I am looking at the bigger picture. Although I would never become homosexual, I am realizing that everyone else is not just like me. That is beside the point though. It doesn't matter what you or I think about this situation. Things are going to happen a certain way whether we like it or not so why stick our noses in it. That causes problems. It only seems to pro-long what is eventually going to happen. Everyone needs to accept that men are going to fall in love with other men.. and women are going to fall in love with other women. Being natural or not.. who is to decide? I think that we as people DO NOT have the say so on others. We ARE NOT GODS.. let the ones who face the problem head on decide what is right or wrong... not the viewers.
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Registered: June 06, 2003
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Two people love each other,
What's the matter with that??
Even if those two people are of the same sex, you shouldn't be able to deny them the right of marriage.
Marriage is a special connection all should be able to have.
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Registered: June 09, 2003
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ILLEGAL AND WRONG!!!
I know refraining from killing you is, but it is something we must all get over.
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Registered: November 30, 2003
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Three words:

ILLEGAL AND WRONG!!! Mad Roll Eyes Mad
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Registered: October 05, 2002
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but homosexuals don't marry to procreate. They marry for love. There are already so many children without any parents, a home, anything, that it might actually do some good for a couple NOT to be able to have children.
Registered: February 19, 2004
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This is in response to trackstarbaby's post about how gay marriage is disgusting, and that marriage is between a man and a woman because their "parts fit together. Literally." -

My opinion is that marriage is not all about sex and people's "parts fitting together"- if that's what this person is trying to say then I think he/she needs to evaulate their stance on marriage. Sex is NOT the only way to express love. (I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that.) I also think that as long as a couple has a monogamous relationship, they love each other, and they are committed to each other and will stick with their marriage vows, then there should be no problem concerning what sex they are. What's wrong with two people who love each other and who want to spend the rest of their lives together having a special, religious, ceremony that "sanctifies" their marriage?
Heterosexual couples have every right to marry- a lot of them end up terminating their relationship. The divorce rate is almost 50% in this country. If 2 people, no matter their sexual preference, want to be together in "holy matrimony," then why stop them?
Our society gives us the message that Homosexuality is wrong- we even go so far as to promote those negative and false images. It's one thing to say that you aren't comfortable with the idea of homosexuality or gay marriages. But think about the people who are gay and lesbian, who don't have the right to marry. How do you think they feel? The lesbian or gay first couple to get married in San Fransisco this week had been together 51 years. Most heterosexual couples haven't been together for NEARLY that long.
Walk a mile in someone else's moccasins before you start judging them.
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Registered: September 22, 2003
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Even if the Church stands for or against it, I beg to disagree with gay marriages because of obvious medical reasons... it will never work out with regard to procreation. The life of marriage is in having children and it will not be possible to do that between 2 males with natural means. Razz
Registered: February 19, 2004
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I think that gay marrage is right and the people who say its wrong make me angry because it's not like gay people can help how they feel. My cousien is gay, and belive me, if he could change the way he feels he would or at least thats what he said before he became comfortable with himself. But still, i think it would be wrong for gays to never be able to be married. They are human beings just like all of us, and who they love shouldnt matter, thats all a bunch of crap. I think that the churches that say gayness is a sin is just iggnorent and suck in their stuck up fantasy dream world. This is life people, wake up.
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Registered: February 10, 2004
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alright everyone im kinda new at this but...
i would really aprreciate it if someone can tell me the point of same sex marraige...if u look in a dictionary under the word "marraige" it says"the legal union of a man and a women". we have laws for a reason.people say y not if it makes them happy, well does that mean a brother and sister can get married? i mean if they love each other y not?...and also how bout if a girl wants to marry a horse is that ok?...well and for all them who say its genetic all i can do is laugh because in a couple hundred years...there wont be any gay people cause they cant produce children!...just think about it for a while guys...same sex marraige should not be allowed...
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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A lot of people are saying it's wrong for homosexuals to get married and many are against them. It's an outrage! Marriage is a matter of love and why should they be deprived of that right simply because they love a different sex? About half the people who say they kno what's wrong or right about them don't even know anyone gay. They are people just like us and dream of the same things as couples in a relationship do. Your religion may be against them, mine does. Do you think they wanted to be born different. Why would they want all the criticism and fear of being rejected by society? They are who they are and in our constitution they should be able to get married. It's not a crime to love and want to pursue a life with your loved one, only a crime if your homosexual. The proof is in the recent event in San Franciso.
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