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Picture of FeiJiao
Registered: July 07, 2003
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What are you talking about!? Have you lost your mind?

Seeing how PB and I are Christian, it's our duty as Christians to reject homosexuality.


Nah. I still retain my mind. You however, are a different story. It's ALSO you're duty as Christians to love one another as you love yourself. That is something that Jesus actually said. Also, it is MY duty as a Wiccan to accept everyone for who they are, regardless of their sexuality. Therefore, I must try to help promote acceptance of others.

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Apparently earthgoddess, you do not read the Bible. Besides, your a follower of some moon god, so how can you preach to me about Christianity. Now, shut the **** up.


Earthgoddess made a good point, you just are a bigot and have no real answer for her, so you have to resort to insults. Tisk tisk tisk. Give me a break. "earthgoddess" does not equal "moon god" in any way, shape or form. Go study world religions, man. And she did not preach to a bigot like you about Christianity, she was making a point, something that you obviously have no concept of.

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Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Liviticus 18:22

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Enough said


A) It's Leviticus, who's not reading their bible?

B) Not enough said, because some of us believe that the Bible is just another book. End of story.
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Registered: March 24, 2004
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Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Liviticus 18:22



Enough said
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Registered: March 24, 2004
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More proof that you people (PaintBucket and TallyWhack) need to read the bible thoroughly before opening your fat traps. Now hush.


Apparently earthgoddess, you do not read the Bible. Besides, your a follower of some moon god, so how can you preach to me about Christianity. Now, shut the **** up.
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First of all, the bible is never going to be a universal source of "right" information. Done. End of story. We are not all Christian.


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Morality has nothing to do with one set religion. All religions teach morality, and all religions have different outlooks on things, such as homosexuality.


What are you talking about!? Have you lost your mind?

Seeing how PB and I are Christian, it's our duty as Christians to reject homosexuality.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Also...

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Deuteronomy

23:2 A b*stard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

"God won't let b*stards attend church. Neither can the sons or daughters of b*stards "even to the tenth generation." So if you plan to attend church next Sunday be ready to prove that your genitals are intact and don't forget your birth certificate and genealogical records for at least the last ten generations. Don't laugh. This stuff is important to God."


Source

More proof that you people (PaintBucket and TallyWhack) need to read the bible thoroughly before opening your fat traps. Now hush.
Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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1 Samuel, Chapter 18


18:1 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.

18:3 Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul.

18:4 And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.

18:5 And David went out whithersoever Saul sent him, and behaved himself wisely: and Saul set him over the men of war, and he was accepted in the sight of all the people, and also in the sight of Saul's servants.


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2 Samuel


20:41 And as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded.

20:42 And Jonathan said to David, Go in peace, forasmuch as we have sworn both of us in the name of the LORD, saying, The LORD be between me and thee, and between my seed and thy seed for ever. And he arose and departed: and Jonathan went into the city.


I don't care what any of you say, that's really sad.


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2 Samuel, Chapter 1


1:26 I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.



I know that probably meant nothing, but I just thought I'd share.
Xia
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Registered: July 07, 2003
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First of all, that should be enough.


*Sighs* Well, it's not. Why? Because not everyone is Christian.

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Secondly, let me fill you in Xia about being a Christian. People who follow Christianity live by the morals taught in the Bible. In the Bible, it states that being gay is an abomination. And seeing how PaintBucket is Methodist, he probably follows that rule, hence, he disagrees with gay people's view on sexuality.


I know everything there is to know about Christianity. Since you cannot read, I'll write what I already wrote earlier: I have been brought up in a Catholic household my whole life. Until last year I was forced to go to Church every weekend. I have attended Catholic school my whole life. I have taken a Religion or Theology class my whole life. I do not need you, of all people, to be lecturing me about Christianity. I know all I want to know about it, and nothing you say will be new to me.

I do not care if Bucketnuts wants to hate gays. He can go for it. I do not care if you want to hate gays. Again, go for it. But what you two cannot do is discriminate against them. You two have to be tolerant; both of you; all of the time. The Constitution grants EQUAL RIGHTS to ALL of its citizens. That includes gays and Christians. Even though I know it is hard for you, you will have to tolerate gays and get along with them.

Again, the Bible is not a reliable source. Why? Because not everyone is a Christian. As you say, "just accept it."

Good points Fei Jiao. Since he refuses to read anything I write, maybe he'll read yours.
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First of all, that should be enough.



First of all, the bible is never going to be a universal source of "right" information. Done. End of story. We are not all Christian.

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Secondly, let me fill you in Xia about being a Christian. People who follow Christianity live by the morals taught in the Bible. In the Bible, it states that being gay is an abomination. And seeing how PaintBucket is Methodist, he probably follows that rule, hence, he disagrees with gay people's view on sexuality.


Tallywacker, Christians follow the NEW TESTAMENT. Jesus' words. Take a good look at the bible. Jesus often contradicts what is said in the Old Testament. Morality has nothing to do with one set religion. All religions teach morality, and all religions have different outlooks on things, such as homosexuality.
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Registered: March 24, 2004
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Now, prove that being gay is wrong without using the Bible.


First of all, that should be enough.

Secondly, let me fill you in Xia about being a Christian. People who follow Christianity live by the morals taught in the Bible. In the Bible, it states that being gay is an abomination. And seeing how PaintBucket is Methodist, he probably follows that rule, hence, he disagrees with gay people's view on sexuality.
Xia
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At least you agree with me.


Shakes head. I thought you said you were smart. Oh yeah, I remember: You're a moron.

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I have already made the statement that being gay was wrong.


Yeah, and I have stated that it isn't wrong. What's your point?

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*knocks on xias head* Are you at home now?


You mustn't be too bright if you havta take other people's insults. *shrugs* The Bible must've sucked your brains out through your lungs or something.

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I used to be. I am no longer. *knocks on xias head again* It takes a long time for you to get things through your head.


Right... except for:

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I fight only when someone has a ****ing problem and wants to fight me so bad.


Case closed. You are violent. Just repent already. REPENT EVILDOER! </Bucketnuts>

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But it says no where in the bible that Hebrews were gay. That's the point.


You are a moron. There's nothing else to describe you. No one said that Hebrews were gay. And you still have no point.

Now, prove that being gay is wrong without using the Bible.

Remember, I do not have to prove anything because it is "innocent until proven guilty" (aka, "right until proven wrong").
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Registered: July 07, 2003
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At least you agree with me.



Everyone else noted the sarcasm. Now we can all note your stupidity as well.

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I have already made the statement that being gay was wrong.



Follow the conversation. It's not at all hard. You never give any proof beside bible junk. That was what Xia was referring to, Buckethead.

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*knocks on xias head* Are you at home now?


::slaps buckethead:: Xia, you really have to hit him harder. You didn't knock any sense or originality into this tinpail.

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I used to be. I am no longer. *knocks on xias head again* It takes a long time for you to get things through your head.

But it says no where in the bible that Hebrews were gay. That's the point.


Yea, but you say you beat people up. Beating up = violence... And no one said that the Hebrews as a whole were gay, just like no society as a whole is gay. Any point you were attempting to make there is now void.
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Registered: November 30, 2003
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Right.

At least you agree with me.
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Yes, you did. About time you finally admitted that.

I have already made the statement that being gay was wrong.
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*knocks on Bucketnuts' head a few times* Is anyone home?


*knocks on xias head* Are you at home now?
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Uh-huh. You are violent, Nutbucket. You have proved it yourself that you are. You are not a true Christian.

REPENT YOU VIOLENT SINNER!

I used to be. I am no longer. *knocks on xias head again* It takes a long time for you to get things through your head.

But it says no where in the bible that Hebrews were gay. That's the point.
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Xia, point!
Xia
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Bucketnuts

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I don't judge.


Right.

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Any proof?


*knocks on Bucketnuts' head a few times* Is anyone home?

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And I made the reasoning that was wrong...


Yes, you did. About time you finally admitted that. Razz

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I am just stating an opinion. I fight only when someone has a ****ing problem and wants to fight me so bad.


Uh-huh. You are violent, Nutbucket. You have proved it yourself that you are. You are not a true Christian.

REPENT YOU VIOLENT SINNER!

</Bucketnut imitation>

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Again, Amaris, you are awesome. ^__^
Registered: April 11, 2004
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ITS CALLED TOLERANCE!!!!!!!
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BIBLICAL SENSE
Making marriage religious
BY MARY-ANN GREANIER
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Since the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled last week that same-sex couples should be allowed to wed, many commentators have reiterated their belief that gay and lesbian couples should be excluded from marriage for religious reasons. But why stop there? If marriages recognized by the Commonwealth must be based on biblical principles, then it’s clear more changes to the law are needed. Below are seven suggested amendments to the Massachusetts Constitution that would bring Bay State family law in line with the Bible.

• Because Jacob and David each had more than one wife, marriage in Massachusetts shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women of his choosing (II Sam. 3:2-5; Gen. 29:17-28).

• A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is found not to be a virgin, "they shall take her to the door of her father’s house and her fellow citizens shall stone her to death" (Deut. 22:13-21). (Here, Governor Romney’s resurrection of the death penalty will come in handy.)

• As Rehoboam, David, and Solomon all possessed concubines, a married man in Massachusetts shall also have the right to keep concubines in addition to his wife or wives (I Kings 11:3; II Sam. 5:13; II Chron. 11:21).

• When Moses said, "Every one of you must put to death those of his people who have committed themselves to the Baal of Peor," he was forbidding the marriage of a believer to a nonbeliever (Gen. 24:3; Neh. 10:30).

• Christ said, "What God has united, man must not divide." Therefore, neither the Constitution nor any state law of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts shall permit divorce (Deut. 22:19; Mark 10:9-12).

• If a married man dies childless, the widow must not marry a stranger outside of the family. Instead, the dead man’s brother must marry the widow. If the brother refuses to marry the widow or refuses to give her children, the law shall fine him one sandal, and he will be forced to go about wearing one sandal for the rest of his days, and he shall be called the Unshod One of Massachusetts (Deut. 25:5-10; Gen. 38:6-10).

• If there are no acceptable men to be found in the town, a woman shall ply her father with wine and have sex with him in order to produce progeny to carry on the family name (Gen. 19:31-36).
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I don't judge.


I find that very hard to belive.
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By the way, Zombie Jesus is the Jesus who arose from the grave with brass feet, white hair, red eyes, a sword coming out from his mouth. Now that's righteous, dude.

Point.
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You figure it out. If you talk to a homosexual and you like their personality, hurray. If you don't, walk away and get over it.

I don't judge.
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Because we all know that being a "friend" is the same thing of being a "pimp." At least I can spell "possess" correctly and do not have to swear to get my point across. Also, having a girlfriend for "3 years" is no big deal, nor does it prove a thing. You are 15 years old, which means you were dating her when you were 12. Big accomplisment there.

So?
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Mmm... not really. Contrary to your belief, it is possible for someone to believe in the Christian idols without actually having a Christian affiliation.

Any proof?
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Wow, I thought I made that clear that it was my observation based on my experience, hence the "I based my statement on my experience" and "it is an observation I have made." I guess you must be pretty dumb.


And I made the reasoning that was wrong...
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Right. You're not homophobic, that is why you made a gay-hating board. You are past your violence, but you will still beat the crap out of someone if they make you angry for whatever reason.


I am just stating an opinion. I fight only when someone has a ****ing problem and wants to fight me so bad.
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By the way, Zombie Jesus is the Jesus who arose from the grave with brass feet, white hair, red eyes, a sword coming out from his mouth. Now that's righteous, dude.

Hehe.
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By the way, Zombie Jesus is the Jesus who arose from the grave with brass feet, white hair, red eyes, a sword coming out from his mouth. Now that's righteous, dude.
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