I don't agree with what you are saying about this at all. True, there are homosexual pastors in our religion now, but who's to say they can't preach the word? They can still be good people and they can still guide people in the Christ direction. Granted, they shouldn't preach homosexuality as a thing to do. As far as that goes, they probably don't. Is there any proof? One of the best things I've ever gotten out of the bible is: Love the sinner, hate the sin. I think that Methodist's should allow this because we aren't the people to be doing the judging and we should leave that business up to the big man and shut our mouths.

Ok, let's end this now before we start a domestic war, I volunteer to overthrow the philosophy that gays in the church are wrong. Ok, so you want to rid the world of kissing boys because it makes you blush. Ok, let's say hypathetically that you cleanse the planet of pretty much all the races and orientations that you don't like. That was quick, you just the majority population of the earth because of religious wars, skin color, ETC. At this point, your in your version of the perfect world, same religion, same ideas. Gee, is this just me or does this sound similar to Communism! Hey, I'm not saying communism is wrong, I'm just say that it just doesn't work. It's entire philosophy cancels itself out, you'd still have to have a government right? There you go, no more equality. I guess I'm saying that the moral is that the people you hate are saving your sorry *****. If we didn't have diversity, if everyone were the same, life can't exist.

12 posts in two years....?

This whole fight is crazy! People have a right to be who they are and nobody should prevent them from loving who they want to love! Just because you don't want to be homosexual, doesn't mean other people don't have a right to! This is all about respecting people, no matter what their religious beliefs or opinions. Just let people be who they are, and although you feel dislike for them, let them be.

I'm Catholic.

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I think that you can't be gay and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. It is an oxymoron.

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Then say hello to your resident oxymoron. *bows*

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I think that you can't be gay and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ.

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Did you know that if one of your ancestors was born without a father, you can't go into a congregation of the lord (i.e. church)? So you're probably not allowed to go to church either, so hush.

Don't believe me? Then you obviously need to read the bible.

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It is clearly stated in the bible that Sodam and Gamora( I think I spelled them right) were turned to stone because of allt he homo's.

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Actually, in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, the straw that broke the camels back was when humans started having sex with angels.

fool. please, do not disgrace the democratic donkey with your creatonous...ugh.

-----"""I think that gays are the last thing that this world needs."""

You idiot. Starvation? Disease? Violence? Rape? Yet you think gays are worse...wow. That's all I have to say.


-----"""I think that you can't be gay and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. It is an oxymoron."""

Howso. Jesus didn't hate anyone. Also, rather suspiciously, he never touched a woman and spent his entire life with 12 men. If you've actually read the bible, you also know how many times it mentions him kissing and embracing them. Hmmm...


-----"""It is clearly stated in the bible that Sodam and Gamora( I think I spelled them right)

Sodom and Gomorrah. Not even close.


-----"""...were turned to stone because of allt he homo's. I totally agree!"""

No, they were turned to stone because a bunch of men wanted to rape. But go ahead, take the bible and bend it however you want to discriminate against people you fear and dislike because you don't understand them.

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Homosexuallity is a choice your not borne with it...

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Prove it. My Source says the contrary.

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I think that you can't be gay and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. It is an oxymoron.

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How is it an oxymoron? Extra points if you can answer without using the Bible as your evidence.

Homosexuallity is a choice your not borne with it.....

You are sooooooooo right! I think that gays are the last thing that this world needs. I think that you can't be gay and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. It is an oxymoron. It is clearly stated in the bible that Sodam and Gamora( I think I spelled them right) were turned to stone because of allt he homo's. I totally agree!

Hmmm, and Christians profess not to be bigoted...

Excluding homosexuals from the church is wrong. If you believe in the notion of sin and read the bible you will notice that God judges all sins equally, therefore you porking your girlfriend before marrying her is no worse than a dude porking a dude (before marrying him!?!). I disagree with homosexuality and think it is a sin but that is no reasone for me to judge and exclude someone from church... Whom needs god more, a sinner or someone whom is "perfect"?

Alright, time to make some noise.

This is a stupid forum. You can't segregate gays. You just can't. Maybe your pastor is even gay, just closeted because people like you would want to kick him out and humiliate him for it.

Why start a vendetta against a fairly large group of people. Just stop already. I can't change because of God's "love" (which is bunk because if God really made me he made me the way I am so nyeah) or because of any form of therapy.

Plus, I wouldn't want to.

Take your time, guys.

Just because it's not on a different page doesn't make it new. We don't need a million threads for the same thing so some fade away, like this one did. Thae last post was June. That makes it old. It was dead for 5 months.

It was in the first page. That's not old.

Before today, the last post was June. it's old.

yogore darling, it's not old. It's been in the first page for a while.