Yes, a good trainer is the most essential part of breaking in a horse. Did you hire someone local, or did you bring someone in.

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If my horse kicked, I'd shoot him again. You need to train your beast if he is bucking.

Not saying he does. I'm saying he is strong, for crying out loud. Hasn't kicked in a while... he's a mean stallion, but we hired a good trainer so he's getting better...

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Thunder would be better than Celtic's donkey; Avalon.

My "donkey" is not for hunting, there is nothing to hunt here except a chupacabra but that's another tale...he's good for going through mountain trails, not afraid of twigs and centipedes as much as Paso Finos are.

I need a horse to be trained already. Racing horses make bad hunting animals. But I'm sure Rev. Thunder would be better than Celtic's donkey; Avalon.

I have a race horse named Revolutionary Thunder that is getting a little old. I wouldn't give him to you, but I would let you buy him if you are interested. He was one spot away from qualifying for the Belmont Stakes last year. Let me know what you think.

FML is right. Horses should not buck. I can stand behind him and yell obcenities and he doesn't care.

If my horse kicked, I'd shoot him again. You need to train your beast if he is bucking.

Well I have a thoroughbred (sp) horse in my stable that can kick hard enough to take FML to France to get marine's horse for free.

No, I'm not giving up my Avalon (that's his name).

Anways, back to the subject. Sure, racial profiling is ok, but what's suspicious is "Was he a Latino?", "A black?" etc.

FreeMarketLover, NOISEmail me. I have a horse I think you might be interested in. I rode her, Pride of Independence, on my last circuit. You probably read about her in the South African Polo Review and the London Gentelmen Publication. I am looking to get rid of her because lord knows long my circuit will be shut down. She is currentley in Jacques Stables in western France.

My horse was injured in a ride last month. It's legs were broken so we shot War Patriot(my horse) in the head. I am searching for a new horse and have been riding one of my friends horses temporarily. My horse was injured when I jumped over a hedge while fox hunting. I was lucky I wasn't killed. I made it but War Patriot didn't.

While I completley agree with you, FreeMarketLover, that would just be too offensive. We must remeber in these terrible times when terrorists want to kill each and everyone of us that we must not make anyone feel uncomfortable. I mean - God Forbid we make a few Arabs uncomfroatble on 9/11 and prevent them from flying planes into the Pentagon and WTC.

FreeMarket, how is your Polo league? Mine is currently on hold because the clubs that host our circuit are demanding more money for each set we play. jerks

If they are middle class or below though, you should say-Suspect is a Neandertal male-.

Bushsupporter, by taking it a step further and saying the suspect is a human male you are insulting the male gender. I think the best way to please everyone is not even have suspects. You should be ashamed at yoruself for even suggesting something so inherintley offensive.

You people are complete idiots. Racial profiling helps policemen do their jobs. I am not saying lock up people because they look like terrorists, I am not saying deny them the right of free speach, I am not saying they should not be allowed to vote, I am saying they should be watched more closely.

So you would like police to say, "suspect is an American male." That is insane jazzy. Black and White are fine terms, it describes what I look like, White. In fact maybe we should take it one step further. "Suspect is a Human male."

I agree with HeliosLoire. I shouldn't be instigating "-isms" in a board where we should be abolishing "-isms" but my philosophy toward this whole movement for political correctness is just plain out disgust. To me, "African American" sounds more wrong than "Black." "Caucasian" sounds more wrong than "White" just because it sounds like you're trying to circumvent the fact that your trying to classify that person. Although the whole idea of classifiying and judging people is morally wrong, it is inevitable human nature. I think an effort to eradicate "-isms" is futile and a worthless attempt. Just take for example, if you saw a neon pink human being, wouldn't you jump in surprise? He is a human, but you judged him by his neon pink!

Generally, America is defined as one big mixpot of races. You'd offend more people by making them become one race than you would having to put up with "African-American"

Of course, I agree with you in the sense that the term "African-American" is stupid. In that same sense, can I call myself a "German-British-Irish-Scottish-Native-American"? Thats what I am, race-mix wise. Or would I offend some black people? Maybe I should make GBISNET, like BET.

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Well, I wouldn't say it's an "obsession". I didn't even get on my soap box about people calling me "mixed" (I totally hate that.). Wtf.

It wasn't directed at you jazzey. I was speaking in general about what people think and how far they go to be PC. In no way did I mean to offend people with mixed heritages.

If it fits, it fits. You can tell people if you dont like being referred to as something, but I really don't see a problem with black, white, asian, etc. It's too much of a personal preferance form what I've noticed.

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If you think you've got it rough try being "latin", those people are mislabeled as "mexican" and "spanish" quite a bit when alot of them are south american

And you have ignored the Latinos from the Caribbean. Myself included, I am Puerto Rican. Recently, I was IMing with a girl from Missouri and when I told her I was from Puerto Rico she asked if that was in Mexico. Ugh.

Newsflash to the people who don't know: Spanish speakers are NOT "Mexicans" nor "Spanish people". Don't use language to describe us, Americans speak English but they're not from the UK. And there are MANY Spanish speaking countries in the world, classify us by them, not by our language.

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Yes we are all Americans, but our race is a part of who we are and how we grew up.

This is easy for people who are of one race oron ethnicity or one nationallity. What about like jazzey and me (my mom's Puerto Rican and my dad is Scottish), what are we supposed to be?

Sometimes I don't know whether I should say I'm Puerto Rican or Scottish or both or just say I'm bi-racial.

hey try humans

I think that those are the definite PC terms, whereas everybody I know says "black" or "white" or "asian" or "latin". If you think you've got it rough try being "latin", those people are mislabeled as "mexican" and "spanish" quite a bit when alot of them are south american. Yes we are all Americans, but our race is a part of who we are and how we grew up. I'm not running around trumpeting "white power" but I am proud of my italian heritage. If I'm speaking with a friend and I say "you remember the guy from the party" and he can't figure it out, I might have to use descriptions to help him, such as describing the persons height, weight, or (GASP!) skin color. Trying to eliminate skin color from conversation and scrutiny is in itself being too politically correct, we should be able to embrace and recognize our differences as part of who we are.

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Jazzey, you rock

Thanks, hun! lol Do y'all still love me even though I'm not on here as much as I used to be?

Yogore says, "I don't understand what this obsession with what to call people is. How is it unPC to call someone black but okay to call someone white? Anyone else see a double standard?"

Well, I wouldn't say it's an "obsession". I didn't even get on my soap box about people calling me "mixed" (I totally hate that.). Wtf.

Americans, in general, seem preoccupied with dividing things by race. For instance if someone asks you about a friend of yours and says, "But, hey, is she hot?" "Well, yea. She's pretty, she's tall and she's 'black'/'white'." I'm sure you've heard something similar to that or even said that yourself. I've even said that.

The question, though, was whether "Afican American" and "Caucasian" are outdated terms. Does is make more sense to just term ourselves as Americans or do we need that descriptive divider?

I understand where your coming from jazzeykitten because I'm the lightest member in my family so people of all races try to figure out with on I fit in. I'm black with Indian and alittle white but I 'm not african american not caucasian and when people ask I tell them I am me.