Who actually had the audacity to say say "No" in that poll?

It's okay. When women rule the world, we'll make whoever it was our minions.

quote:

---

which ruins my chances of wooing you into becoming a lesbian with me, doesn't it?

---

Hey, you never know.

I thought we had already established that he's infatuated with you, Gem... which ruins my chances of wooing you into becoming a lesbian with me, doesn't it? *tear*
Damn you, Desert. You beat me to the punch.

subtitled & uncut,
logos

I suppose I did. You share the same views as a cold-hearted Atheist. Now isn't that something to be proud of?

gemini, did you just agree with me???

quote:

---

I dislike children with a passion, and do not like being around them.

---

I know exactly how you feel. I work at a library, and I always dread story hour days, when there will be at least 20 children in the building. For some reason it seems like the more you ignore small children, the more they like you and want to follow you around. But, back to the point, I too am most certainly not naturally suited for motherhood. It would drive me insane.

quote:

---

There was no little dragon named "Mushu"

---

really?? aw, how disappointing.

also it is not so ancient that women are looked up to, i am part Apache and Cherokee Indian, both cultures highly respect women. For one reason, have you ever seen a man bleed for five days and live??

quote:

---

Its like children of divorces, they just don’t work as well.

---

hey now! my parents divorced when i was 4! i haven't seen my father since. I am perfectly fine. I make sraight A's, drug and alcohol free, and i don't go f8ck ever guy on the planet! (even tho i am open about sex and sexuality, but that's not the point). how dare you make a sweeping generalization! my mom has worked since her divorce, and she has not remarried, i think sometimes it is better to have no father at all than have a sucky one. I still have a mother figure, in fact more so than one of my friend's whose mom just takes up the identitly of her father. and don't say that my mom leaves me home alone and she doesn't care about me. i have like double the protection, sometimes i wish i had the dad that said 'let her go do that'. but grr!

yes of course women are mothers, we have the child. meh. u make me mad.

~*FOXY*~

quote:

---

All I'm saying is that we cant ignore the natural fact that women are mothers.

---

If you mean by mother someone who is able to give birth to a human child, then yes, I could be a mother, but every man that I know is able to stay in a room with a baby for more than five minutes, whereas I'm not. I dislike children with a passion, and do not like being around them. I would be a bad mother, and I know that, but that's why I'm not planning on having children. What I'm trying to convey to you is that if I had a child, it would be best for the child's life and my sanity if someone else stayed with it during the day (yes, even the father) and I pursued a career.

"Women birth the baby, feed it, and raise it, its a woman's job."

Look everybody! It's the disciple Paul reincarnated!

"I bet most of you people are so bitter on this board because you didn’t have mothers that stayed at home with you. Instead, you grew up with atheism and hate that you learned from, TV, and look how you all turned out, a bunch of babbling idiots"

Deserteagle, my mother stayed at home 6 out of 7 days....and I'm being raised as a Roman Catholic. I don't watch TV (with the exception of some movies). What do you think of stay-at-home dads? That kind of messes up your "homemakers first, workers second" thing, doesnt it?


"Other than nurse, maid, etc, are there any jobs in which we NEED women?"

My dad's an OR nurse....it's not strictly a woman's job.

"Its like children of divorces, they just don’t work as well."

My parents are divorced, and my life isn't worse than my friends' who have 2 parents in the same house.

"And whoever said that women being equal to men is a pre-historic idea is right, we;ve evolved past that"

Yeah, but since that evolution, there has been war and intolerance.


-rito

quote:

---

but generally, children raised by an at-home mother and a working father live better lives.

---

That's true. Most children need more maternal nurturing from their mothers, rather than their fathers. Supposedly, children "bond" with their mothers when they're in the womb, which makes them more likely to want to be with their mothers.

quote:

---

. Its like children of divorces, they just don’t work as well. All I'm saying is that we cant ignore the natural fact that women are mothers.

---

There's no doubt that children with two loving parents are better off. But sometimes divorce is in the best interest of the child (e.g. in cases of constant parental fighting, abuse, etc. which can be traumatizing to the child). And women are naturally mothers, but males are naturally fathers and hold an equal responsibility for the child and his/her well-being.

Men breast-feeding? That's just wrong...

Ironically enough, I agree with you (partially) gemini. Some women aren’t good mothers, but generally, children raised by an at-home mother and a working father live better lives. Its like children of divorces, they just don’t work as well. All I'm saying is that we cant ignore the natural fact that women are mothers.

quote:

---

Clearly, women are cut out to be homemakers, like I said, they can breast feed.

---

Males can breast feed, as well, if given the right hormone supplements. And females are as intelligent as males. I personally believe, in many cases, that females are more intelligent than males. This is, of course, a generalization. Not all females make good mothers. Some people lack the "instinct," for lack of better terminology.

You can't judge a person based upon their sex, though. Different people, different situations.

Desert, go join the YMCA or something. I doubter many people want to hear your anti-women BS.

I bet most of you people are so bitter on this board because you didn’t have mothers that stayed at home with you. Instead, you grew up with atheism and hate that you learned from, TV, and look how you all turned out, a bunch of babbling idiots. Women are obliged to be homemakers, unless men can start breastfeeding. Clearly, women are cut out to be homemakers, like I said, they can breast feed. Women are the mother figure, and they have maternal instincts to take care of their offspring. Women birth the baby, feed it, and raise it, its a woman's job (that’s one reason gay marriages don’t work well). More and more children grow up with part time mothers, and are damaged because the mothers are on some righteous crusade for equality. Generally, we don't need women in the workforce, but I don’t care who works where, as long as they get the job done. Other than nurse, maid, etc, are there any jobs in which we NEED women? I can’t think of any off the top of my head. But while they wedge their way into the workplace, their children grow up without a mother figure. Women need to be homemakers first, and workers second. And whoever said that women being equal to men is a pre-historic idea is right, we;ve evolved past that, and we have gender roles that have been in place for thousands of years, so quit rockin the boat.

quote:

---

Fa Mu Lan (in the movie Mulan (wasn't it great?))

---

Her last name was "hua". Then again, the Disney movie, Mulan, was not much of an educational film. First of all, she went into battle with her parents' knowledge. Her family even asked a cousin to take care of her while she was there. Heh, she quickly became general, as Ice said, rising way above her cousin in rank. She eventually married another general, after her gender was revealed (he was supposedly less competant than her in battle, so she went along with him to help him map out strategies and such).
There was no little dragon named "Mushu" (which is a Chinese dish), or spirits of dead relatives, or.. what have you. And she didn't save the emperor from the Huns. Also, if someone had touched the emperor in real life(hug, or no hug), they would have be beheaded or something.

subtitled & uncut,
logos

Fa Mu Lan (in the movie Mulan (wasn't it great?))
was a Chinese woman who pretended to be a male so that she could enlist in the army. She rose to the top quickly and became one of the most respected fighters. Then, she became a general and led her army all over China, squashing the Huns, and she was famous because she was always leading in the front line. Then people found out she was a man when she was seen without her armor, and the legends and stories became even more famous.

Also, there is a very similar true story involving one of the Thai princesses, Suriyothai. A movie is being made about it that is gonna be one of the most expensive movies in history.

Just thought those two stories are kind of interesting.

Women naturally the homemakers? Always been the homemakers?? here is comes, my favorite class, history

way, way, way back before christ and even judaism, there were the Goddess people. They worshipped a single Goddess (her main symbol being a serpent). Women were completely equal with men, and had say in the way things worked, where things went, and how people lived. Men did more in the home than they do now too. Women farmed, fought, and helped run religious ceremonies.

My point is, women have not always been inferior to men, or always been homemakers. That began when the Greeks introduced the partiarch government and life style, which was then enforced by Judaism and Christianity.

-rito

Honestly though, a trained female fighter with a good build can do just as well a a trained male fighter.

DesertEagle, you really have no idea who I am, do you? Trust me, you are the one who would get beat up by a six year old, not me.

Thank you, Desert. I never tire of you telling me that I'm stupid.

desert--just shut up sweetie, it's not working. you look dumber and dumber by the second.

yes i believe that men do have the fighting advatage over women (hand to hand). i believe that yes some things are easier for them, like peeing while standing up. but women can be trained to take on tasks just like men can.

but seriously, don't try to hit a woman in a fight. we really do have ways to kick your a$$. and we always have back up .

o yeah, did you kno that women are more likly to be the spousal abuser than men?

heh just thought you should know.

~*FOXY*~