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Picture of Ikki14Reed
Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5812
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It's the same as the word Bitch...I am a women and I have before called my girlfriends that in a casual way (its our society) but if a man were to call me that I would probably punch him in his face lol not really but you get my point...it is a word that is demeaning to women and now women have control of it and it is not acceptable for a man to use it against a women


I still don't agree with it's use. It may give women "power" and "control," but is it a positive power and control? Or are we treating ourselves the way misogynists want us treated?


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Registered: December 24, 2006
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I think that this word is a form of showing power and control. White people once were the only ones to use this word and now black people have turned it into their own turning it into a word that is not demeaning to their culture. It's the same as the word Bitch...I am a women and I have before called my girlfriends that in a casual way (its our society) but if a man were to call me that I would probably punch him in his face lol not really but you get my point...it is a word that is demeaning to women and now women have control of it and it is not acceptable for a man to use it against a women the same as it is not acceptable for a white person to use the N word.
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Registered: June 06, 2007
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Well i feel a certain obligation being black to write about this topic because i havent read one reply from a black person and that is who usually uses the n word. "what about honkey, cracker, spic, wet back, beaner, chinc, gook, jap-o, wap, dago, flip. all are the same yet none of those races get as offended as black people when someone says that. why is that?" I have never used the n word i think it is stupid for blacks to use it because then there is no reason that any other race shouldnt use it. I think that blacks that use it use it (of course) to refer to one another. Also blacks that take offense to other races using it think of their heritage, meaning that of slaves. even when you talk about a black man's moma hes going to "bust sum caps in yo ass mutha f!@#a" so he would do the same if you talked about his slave ancestry.
Picture of Greenleaf771
Registered: March 30, 2005
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KKK in the past or not, he still loathes black folks. He may not say it out loud anymore, but I can guarantee you, it's still bubbling under his starched skin.


True, but I have this wierd thing in which I try to see the good in people (and considering he's representing me, I'm in a little state of denial). That's what makes me so hopelessly naive. It also viciously slaughters any dreams of a political career. *shrug*


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As far as I know, nigger is the black mans favourite word, which he uses affectionately (in a manly way) to refer to his brothas?
Don't yo deny it nigger! Or ill bust sum caps in yo ass mutha f!@#a.

And it's those people who are at fault as much as the white people who use it. Degrading one's own race in that manner only gives the white people the a-okay. You can't set a double standard like that.

There's freedom of speech and then there's respect. Think about it.

Just don't use it, whether you detest me for calling it the "n word" or not.


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Picture of SilverWerewolf
Registered: November 03, 2003
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"You can take the white hood off the man, but not the hate out of the man."

That's my say against Senator Robert Byrd. And yes, I agree with Michael Savage that he is a "West-Virginia White-Hooded Rat." Read The Political Zoo sometime.

KKK in the past or not, he still loathes black folks. He may not say it out loud anymore, but I can guarantee you, it's still bubbling under his starched skin.


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Picture of Eagle63B
Registered: February 06, 2007
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Thanks clpo13, it is a very good article. The writer is himself black, and uses the word so frequently to motivate the black community to not glorify the word, and not be threatened by it either.

I would hope it would shed some light on the black community and the white community on why "Niggers" are they way they are.


"Come now, and let us reason together!" Says the Lord... -Isaiah 1:18
Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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Good article, Eagle. Really good.


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Picture of Eagle63B
Registered: February 06, 2007
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speed:

Thank you for proving my point.

RaceDriver:

You've obviously missed the point.


"Come now, and let us reason together!" Says the Lord... -Isaiah 1:18
Picture of RaceDriver205
Registered: December 10, 2005
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Oooo! Its another racist-yelling contest!
Commentator:"Can the antagonist keep up his talk of freedom of speach and the perils of political correctness, and can the defender maintain the volume of his 'racist!'s? Can the antagonist cope with this sheer unending barage of 'racist!'s?"

As far as I know, nigger is the black mans favourite word, which he uses affectionately (in a manly way) to refer to his brothas?
Don't yo deny it nigger! Or ill bust sum caps in yo ass mutha f!@#a.
Picture of speed
Registered: February 05, 2005
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If I hated people who ate pudding, would I be a puddingist?

You would be an idiot.
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My personal opinion the power given to the word nigger is mostly from those who call it the "n" word.

It was the term used to referr despectively to african americans during the years of slavery and segregation and you are trying to justify it's use, that makes you a racist pig no matter what you say or believe. You can't attribute new meanings to words based on personal belief, It would be like me calling people shitheads and then trying to make them understand that the term shithead is not nasty, but good and praising.


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Picture of Eagle63B
Registered: February 06, 2007
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I think it shows some level of either shame or insecurity for people to crusade against racism. I have no problem with people hating white people. If that is what they believe then so be it. Yes, they are racist, but so what? Plenty of people hate other people for even stranger reasons, no one crusades against them.

If I hated people who ate pudding, would I be a puddingist?

Now my original intend on this topic was the question of Nigger being a word reserved for racist. In example the "Manifesto of Ascendancy for the modern American Nigger" a article printed in Equire, the author received several letters calling him a "racist". Obviously these people didn't get past the first sentence, "LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT NIGGERS."

Here is a link for anyone interested.
http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ1206BLACKESSAY_108

My personal opinion the power given to the word nigger is mostly from those who call it the "n" word.


"Come now, and let us reason together!" Says the Lord... -Isaiah 1:18
Picture of Greenleaf771
Registered: March 30, 2005
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I AM totally against the use of the "n" word (in fact, I wrote an article about it for YN a while ago), but. . .

To defend Byrd, the whole KKK thing was AGES ago. Sure that puts a HUGE black mark on my "who I like politically" record, but he's done a lot for WV.


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Picture of SilverWerewolf
Registered: November 03, 2003
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Save your sanity and personal face. Do NOT use that word.

Unless you like the thought of following Senator Robert Byrd and fighting against Al Sharpton.


Arooooooo!
Picture of Euterpe
Registered: September 29, 2004
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I thought I was bad-ass at 13. I was clearly wrong. That's okay.

Words are just words. You always have to consider the source of them. If someone can't find something better to call you than nigger, cracker, queer, fag, dyke, or any other deorgatory term, they're clearly not intelligent enough to be worthy of your attention.


A lo hecho, pecho.
Picture of Ikki14Reed
Registered: August 17, 2001
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the youth of today seriously boggle my mind as to how they think they are more mature and bad ass.



I was actually just thinking that and wondering how bad/annoying/egocentric/etc I was at that age.

On the topic: I really hate how disrespectful in language the world seems to have become.

I can't find a copy of the article, but in Beloit, Wisconsin, they actually had a funeral to bury words such as the N-word.


Picture of BigSlickAK
Registered: February 19, 2005
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Twinkle....youre what? 13 years old? thats just about long enough to know DICK about anything. are you even in highschool yet? the youth of today seriously boggle my mind as to how they think they are more mature and bad ass. someone really needs to slap some damn sense into the POS know it alls (like yourself) and try and prepare them for the harsh reality of life. you need to focus on something more than hating a group of people that you cant do anything about.


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Picture of metsmod
Registered: August 22, 2006
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Guys, I understand that this is a "hot topic" issue. However, people must respect other people. I don't care if you are blue, white, purple, green, black, or orange: you should not be racist towards anybody.

If you do, then you are breaking the Terms of Service that you agreed to when you created your NoiseName. If you break it, your account will be suspended.

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Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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'I don't hate ALL black people, I just hate their personalities..Wow. I hate a lot of people's personalities..'


Hate is a very strong word. And why do you generalize Blacks? There personalities are not all the same, just as any other race. This points to only one conclusion: It is not their personality that bothers you, but their race.

I'm sorry, but someone who generalizes in this manner and hates for this reason is simply ignorant.


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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I think it's safe to say that 99% of the YouthNoise community hates YOUR personality. And your shitty attitude.

And sorry, but all 13 year old girls are pigheaded. You're a picture perfect example Twink (hehehe). To quote my awesome painting teacher Bill Cross, "Quick! Hire a teenager while they still know everything!"
Picture of TwinkleSparkleFlash
Registered: April 03, 2007
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Hm.


I wouldn't say that I hate ALL black people.


I've been having many talks with a very good friend of mine, and after finally coming to my senses I realize..

'I don't hate ALL black people, I just hate their personalities..Wow. I hate a lot of people's personalities..'


But I have to say I AM NOT thick skulled.

I, honestly, am not ignorant either.


But hm. Wondering how many other people on here like to start as much stuff as these on this thingy. Er whatever...



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