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Texas Voters OK Gay Marriage Ban
By DAVID CRARY, AP

(Nov. 8) - Texas voters Tuesday overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, making their state the 19th to take that step. In Maine, however, a proposal to repeal a new gay-rights law was trailing by a wide margin.

In California, voters had a chance to embolden or embarrass Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as they considered four measures he promoted as part of a power struggle with legislators and public-employee unions.

The contest in Texas was decided quickly - the ban was receiving about 76 percent support with about a third of precincts reporting. Like every other state except Massachusetts, Texas didn't permit same-sex marriages previously, but the constitutional amendment was touted as an extra guard against future court rulings.

"Texans know that marriage is between a man and a woman, and children deserve both a mom and a dad. They don't need a PhD or a degree in anything else to teach them that," said Kelly Shackelford, a leader Texans For Marriage, which favored the gay marriage ban.

Gay-rights leaders were dismayed by the lopsided returns, but vowed to continue a state-by-state battle for recognition of same-sex unions.

"The fight for fairness isn't over, and we won't give up," said Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign. "These amendments are part of a long-standing effort by the extreme right to eliminate any legal recognition for gay people and our families."

In a local Texas election, voters in White Settlement, named 160 years ago after white settlers moved into a mostly Indian area, emphatically rejected a proposal to change the town's name to West Settlement. Some civic leaders felt the traditional name should be changed to lure business investment; more than 90 percent of voters disagreed.

In Maine, early returns indicated voters were spurning a measure placed on the ballot by a church-backed conservative coalition that would repeal a gay-rights law approved by lawmakers earlier this year. The lawmakers expanded the state's human rights act to outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation, a step already taken by the five other New England states.

With about 24 percent of the precincts reporting, 57 percent of voters were voting to keep the new law, which is broadly worded to protect transsexuals and transvestites as well as gays and lesbians.

The special election in California, called by Schwarzenegger, evolved into an unofficial referendum on his performance. Recent polls showed his popularity plummeting, and suggested all four measures he pushed were headed for defeat.

The ballot items would cap state spending and give the governor greater authority to make budget cuts; make teachers work five years instead of two to pass probation; strip lawmakers of their power to carry out redistricting; and require public employee unions to get members' permission before their dues could be used for political purposes.

California voters also decided whether to require doctors to give a parent or guardian written notice before performing an abortion on a minor. More than 30 states have laws requiring parental notice or consent; recent polls indicated the California proposal would be defeated, but the contest was considered close.

In Republican-governed Ohio, where the 2004 presidential election was marked by complaints of unfair election practices, four election-overhaul measures backed by Democratic-leaning groups were on the ballot, but all were defeated. One of the failed items would have taken redistricting powers away from legislators.

New Jersey voters were favoring a proposal to have an elected lieutenant governor who would take over if a sitting governor leaves office early. The measure was a response to the gay sex scandal that drove former Gov. James McGreevey from office and installed Senate President Richard Codey as acting governor even as he retained his Senate duties. New Jersey is one of eight states with no lieutenant governor.

In Washington state, doctors and lawyers promoted rival measures dealing with medical malpractice. Other measures in Washington would expand the state's ban on smoking in public areas and indoor workplaces, and overturn the Legislature's gas-tax increase of 9.5 cents a gallon.


11-08-05 22:03 EST

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Originally posted by freedomordeath:

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The bible says that homosexuality is wrong

It does not say that explicitly, therefore it is your interpretation that the Bible says that.

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The bible also says to love thy neighbor

It does say that explicitly, and so in many ways I do like the Bible. It says that people should love, or at least respect, other people and mind themselves. God will deal with the wrongdoers and sinners later. In this life, it is not unjustified to be natural, so homosexuality isn't something for the present to decide. However, our country certainly does not say by its Consitution or any other form of document that we run under the Christian (and then, what about a specific denomination) Bible, and that we as a country, in fact, have rights when it comes to religion and therefore the US should not be held "moral" by any religion.

By the way, that's an interesting YN name...

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The bible says that homosexuality is wrong

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The bible also says to love thy neighbor

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We could just shoot you, pantera. Then all your troubles (and ours) would be over.

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Where in the Bible does it say that gays can marry?

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Originally posted by rugar:
Where in the Bible does it say that gays can marry?

Cause I always find that it saids that a MAN shall MARRY a WOMAN.

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Where in the Bible does it say that gays can marry?

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Where in the Bible does it say that gays can marry?

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Not only are they Christian-based, but this was a natural disaster - as defined by the site itself. This is the equivalent of blaming New Orleans' tragedy in Katrina on the homosexuals. It's insane. More evidence of the "righteous" Christians believing in the "Just World" theory. Idiots.