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Picture of freedomordeath
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Since you had read the bible you must know that it also said that Sodom and Gomorrah did all that was evil in the site of God and that is why God destoryed them


So where does it say homosexuals were evil?

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It doesn't say the word homosexuals, but it does say it just using a different word.


Oh, really? The version I'd read never said one or even two words. It didn't even imply homosexuality.

I'd like proof for your translations of the city names, and non-Christian proof that they even existed. And do you realize the Canaanites were usually depicted as enemies of Christians anyways? So how does God destroying them have anything to do with evil? If it was God in the first place(!) because this was, even as north's link points out, a natural disaster.

Start thinking for yourself.


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It doesn't say the word homosexuals, but it does say it just using a different word.

What word did they use?

How can you prove that those two cities existed?


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The Bible doesn't explain that there were homosexuals there. I have read the Bible. Front to back. Four times. My favorite person? Samson. I know it was destroyed you stupid whore, we've established that. But why is it only Christians claim it was there in the first place, and that the reason it was "destroyed" was because of homosexuality? Surely God wasn't that stupid or naive. And are you trying to tell me it went into a blackhole or the like? Because I highly doubt that, since everything turned to salt. And can you pinpoint such a place? No, because no such place exists or ever did.


Sodom = "burning"

a Canaanite city, usually paired with Gomorrah, located in the area of the Dead Sea and the Jordan river; both cities destroyed by God in judgment

Gomorrah = "submersion"

the twin-city in evil with Sodom, both destroyed in judgment by God with fire from heaven

It doesn't say the word homosexuals, but it does say it just using a different word.

Since you had read the bible you must know that it also said that Sodom and Gomorrah did all that was evil in the site of God and that is why God destoryed them.

Only Lot's wife turned to salt, but you already knew that.
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It's a christian site, but the overview is there. The bitumen deposits sometimes rise to the surface and float on the surfaceof the sea. Some of them are so large that trees begin to grow on them. The bitumen was a main part of the economy of the region. It was exported to use as a sealant for ships and in makeup manufacture.



All right, check over the site... And dude, I've got something to tell you. Not only are they Christian-based, but this was a natural disaster - as defined by the site itself. This is the equivalent of blaming New Orleans' tragedy in Katrina on the homosexuals. It's insane. More evidence of the "righteous" Christians believing in the "Just World" theory. Idiots.


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Well if you read the bible you'd find out that Sodom and Gomorrah was destoryed because of all the sin that was in that place.


I believe the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was when a gang of men wanted to have sex with an angel. That was considered beastiality.


They people didn't know it was an angel when they said that but I think they wanted to do that, for the same reason dogs hump each other, to proclaime there superiority or dominance.


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Well if you read the bible you'd find out that Sodom and Gomorrah was destoryed because of all the sin that was in that place.


I believe the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was when a gang of men wanted to have sex with an angel. That was considered beastiality.
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They are now called Bab-ehd-Drah and Numeria.

Here it is

It's a christian site, but the overview is there. The bitumen deposits sometimes rise to the surface and float on the surfaceof the sea. Some of them are so large that trees begin to grow on them. The bitumen was a main part of the economy of the region. It was exported to use as a sealant for ships and in makeup manufacture.

was that sass, or am I just in a delerium of tiredness, fod? Why the hell would I post something in such vivid detail if I was making it up?


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If your talking about Rugar, I have been thinking the samething


I was. Wink

North, got proof?


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Originally posted by freedomordeath:
What a wonderful refute you have yet to make in nearly half an hour of still being signed into YN.


If your talking about Rugar, I have been thinking the samething


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Well if you read the bible you'd find out that Sodom and Gomorrah was destoryed because of all the sin that was in that place.
That included the gay's too.


Show then the passage to me. By The Holy Hand of Azura, I swear that there is nothing in there that mentions homosexuality.

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No, because no such place exists or ever did.


ummmmmm...

There are two sites on the foothills of the Dead Sea that echo the destruction. But they were very small, with fewer than five hundred inhabitants, and a very base form of life. They could never have been the luxurious people that the Bible professes, though the image of the cities would have been warped by puritanical jews. to prove a point, THAT YOU SHOULD RESPECT STRANGERS.


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What a wonderful refute you have yet to make in nearly half an hour of still being signed into YN.


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Well if you read the bible you'd find out that Sodom and Gomorrah was destoryed because of all the sin that was in that place.
That included the gay's too.



The Bible doesn't explain that there were homosexuals there. I have read the Bible. Front to back. Four times. My favorite person? Samson. I know it was destroyed you stupid whore, we've established that. But why is it only Christians claim it was there in the first place, and that the reason it was "destroyed" was because of homosexuality? Surely God wasn't that stupid or naive. And are you trying to tell me it went into a blackhole or the like? Because I highly doubt that, since everything turned to salt. And can you pinpoint such a place? No, because no such place exists or ever did.


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Originally posted by rugar:
Well if you read the bible you'd find out that Sodom and Gomorrah was destoryed because of all the sin that was in that place.
That included the gay's too.


Rugar, my dear, there are gay people everywhere but Sodom because it never existed. Please cite where it specifically says that their sin was homosexuality.


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Well if you read the bible you'd find out that Sodom and Gomorrah was destoryed because of all the sin that was in that place.
That included the gay's too.
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And the bible never said what Sodom's sins were.


True dat - but there was never any historical evidence of such a place otherwise. No other culture, and no exact location, can pinpoint the existence of Sodom and Gommorah.


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If we actually let gays get married that is mocking marriage.
Gays say that they should be able to get married cause they "love" one another. I have two dogs and a turtle. What if I want to get married to them. I "love" them, so why shouldn't I be able to get married to them.

Oneday gays will be allowed to get married. It has to come to pass, for it's a sign of the end.
I just pray that I will never live to see that day.

This world has gotten back to a Sodom and Gomorrah state.


You can't marry your turtle because it can't sign the marraige license.

And the bible never said what Sodom's sins were.


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This world has gotten back to a Sodom and Gomorrah state.



Oh, you mean the mythological place that never existed in the first place?


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Know what i can't understand? how come supposedly "celibate" priests are making such a big deal about their sexual orientations. Correct me if i'm wrong, but what does the vow of celibacy mean? not that they shouldn't have any sexual orientations??!!!!!


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Because the chances are slim. When you have a 99.99% chance of being right, you need far less proof than when you're trying to defend the .01% chance. The world has been around a long time and nothing that has happened has caused it to end despite what some crazies have said.

Now defend your side.


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How do you know?
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