Personally, I don't see how having a black history month is discrimating against whites. I would understand if: black history month was about bringing other races down, or how showed how black people are a superior race. But that is NOT what black history month is all about. Black history month is a month that appreciates blacks for all there inventions and contrubutions that they have made to society. Everyday in history you learn about the pilgrims, presidents, laws, congress, economics, the great depression and all that other stuff. The one thing you hardly hear about is black people controbutions to society. As a matter of fact, I don't remember learning about any black people in all 2 years of history I've taken.(minus world geography, and govenment and economics.) In US and world history we spent 2 days learning about the civil rights movement and Africa. I didn't complain. I didn't raise my hand and say "its discrimating to learn about white people everyday and not about other cultures." In fact, I bet half of you don't do anything during black history month anyway. You don't even make an effort to learn anything new about the culture. You just sit there and complain about how it is a racist month even though you do nothing to fully acknowledge it. No one is FORCING you to celebrate black history month. Hell, if you want call it white history month and learn about your ancestors, go ahead. Personally, I don't give a rats @$$.

But it looks like you can't understand that.

So lets just agree to disagree. Cause it is obvious I'm not seeing it from your prospective and you are not seeing it from mine.

By the way misty I am not giving black people a bad name. If you would have taken the time to read all the other post, maybe you would see that I was defending the African American culture. I do not bring up slavery all the time. Hell, i never bring up slavery. I was stateing why other African Americans bring up slavery!! So get your facts correct.

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If your government controls the goods, production, monetary supply, and your money, is that not as bad, or nearly as bad, as being shackled and chained?

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First of all, their control is pretty low, free trade and all that.

Second, no, it's no where close. Not even in the ballpark. That's kinda like PETA's holocaust comparison, minus any point it may have had.

Alright:

Egypt, I don't think black people want white people to feel sorry for them. I think a lot of them just want white people to feel ashamed. And it hasn't impaired my judgement, nor affected my views on the entire black race. I have no problem with other races. I have friends at school who are black. I just don't like blacks who constantly b*tch at white people for being white.
And does it MATTER if black history month is the shortest month of the year? If there is a black history month, there should be a white history month, THAT is why it is so offensive. Reverse discrimination. Or no race months at all. I think the women's month is stupid, and I'm female.
How is every day white history day? I'm sorry, I don't understand where you even came up with that comment.
And hey, I don't think Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, or women should get special treatment either. I'd be annoyed if I got a job simply because I was female.
Yeah, sure, its legal to have a whites only scholarship...but if some guy, or company, or organization offered one they'd be labeled racist so fast, there would be stuff all over the news, people condemning that person/company/org...might as well be illegal for all the people offering them.

Joey Dauben, there's something wrong with you. I don't know about other people but I think having to pay taxes is a lot less suffering than doing forced labor all day, every day, for the rest of my life and not having any rights whatsoever.

I'd just like to say, seeing as egypt keeps turning my statements into racism, that I believe in equality. EQUALITY. As in, color and race and sex don't even matter, it's the perosn who matters.

Poncho, because economics is directly linked with the government's policies, yes, I was associating all of the suffering of slavery with economic slavery.

If your government controls the goods, production, monetary supply, and your money, is that not as bad, or nearly as bad, as being shackled and chained?

The governments - and the economies - go hand-in-hand. Remember that.

Egyptian you are giving us black people a bad name. I'm black...well sort of and I don't bring up slavery. You need to stop thinking of the past and move on.
Strawberry...just because you are white...and think that its unfair for black people to have their own month is discriminating. Also, because they get scholarship and they don't have that many for white people is wrong...I am telling you I can't apply for most of those scholarship and I am black because they are for only people that have low income. You need to look at the facts....think outside the box!

Did Joey just compare income tax with being stolen from your home country and forced (violently) to work for nothing?

Joseph Dauben! Didn't your mother teach you anything?

No, I mean correctly.

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I guarantee you that slavery will never ever happen again in the US

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You're wrong, because it's happening, economically, all over.

Your parents, my parents, adults ...are having to be slaves to an out-of-control, free-spending government that is hellbent on STEALING hard-earned paychecks to pay for its programs.

That is slavery. You cannot break the shackles and chains of economic slavery.

We might not have blacks plowing fields, which by the way, the North had slavery just as much as the South (true ignorance right there), but we have parents and workers striving and working hard to do things ...and have their money, at the same time, just stolen away.


So don't say slavery won't happen again, because it's obvious that it hasn't gone away.

I was watching "the real world" and their job was to come up with something scary for a Halloween play, and a white guy says

"Why don't we pretend one of us gets hung"

Then a black guy said

"No, because slaves where hung."

And then it just exploded into a barrage of "Your racist! No you are!"

White people get hung too.
I am Half Indian, and my people were slaughtered by white people, but I don't throw that up every chance I get. If someone says,

"Lets give them some blankets"
I don't explode and say, 'Is That supposed to be funny, you ignorant morbid, **** bucket!?'

I didn't own slaves. My father Didn't, and His father didn't.

Why is it being blamed on me?

Black people don't think you owe us anything. I don't know why it offends you so much that we have a black history month. It is the shortest month of the year. Besides every day is white history day. I don't know where you get your facts from but African Americans are not the only nationality that gets special scholarships. What about Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, and women? It is not legal to have a white scholarship I don't know where the heck you got that information from. The about 5 million scholarships out there and only about 2% of the are for just the African American community.

Maybe you should think about telling your "special" black friend what you and your mom came up with and see what she says.

Just because you are white, does not mean you know more about why black people bring up slavery. I am black so i know why black people bring up slavery. I can tell you one thing for sure, it is not because we want white people to feel "sorry" for us. Not ALL black people bring it up for that reason and I'm sorry that those are the only black people that you have come into contact with. It has obviously impared you judgement and thoughts about the entire African American race.

Ok what happened years ago shouldnt matter... Im not raceist i have friends even a special someone who is black but my mom and i was thinking about this and what is going on now is reverse racism. White people do not "owe" black people anything. I did not treat them badly, and the black people now who expect special treat were not the ones who were mistreated. Now Black people even have their own holiday. I do not think this is fair. Black people have scolarship programs, but it would be illegal for there to be a program just for white women. it doesnt seem right. What do u think about this idea?

Shish! You people give people a headache for talking stupid stuff.

I don't know anyone really that brings up slavery in the first place unless its for debating for discrimination and racism. I don't know why you two are debating...stuff...that has been debated for like ever.

And really people are racist against white people..no offense that just sounds funny. It must be discrimination against white people. Now that sounds right.

The fact of the matter is egypt, most black people bring up slavery because they want sympathy and to do a guilt trip on white people. You're the one who doesn't know what you are talking about. I have never in my entire life, from personal experience, from watching tv, from reading the news, heard a black person bring up slavery because they wanted to 'make sure it never happened again'. Usually, it's someone who sues the government because their ancestors were slaves, makes some little speech about how white people are evil oppressors and the black man/woman has to rise up, wants a reason why they failed in some way so they say it was discrimination, or, during an argument, uses the old racist card against a white person. Sorry, I've never heard anything remotely similar to 'making sure it doesn't happen again' when race has been brought up.

I'm very glad you don't want anything from me, because I don't want to give you or anyone else anything just because they belong to a specific race. Unfortunately most minorities do not share your opinion, and that is the only time I bring up race. Race is just physical attributes, it doesn't show anything about a person.

And sadly, in this case, I know a lot more about why black people talk to white people about slavery, seeing as I am white. If you honestly believe people talk about slavery because they don't want it to happen again, you have not seen much of what goes on. Maybe black people bring up slavery amongst themselves because they don't want it to happen again. That's probably true. But when black people bring up slavery to a white person, believe me it's not going to be a friendly "Oh, yeah, a lot of you white guys enslaved a lot of my ancestors a hundred years or so ago. Just reminding you so you don't do it again." Since we are talking about black-white relations, I do know what I'm talking about, Egypt.

1st of all I never said I was a slave. I was giving you and every other white person doesn't have any sense a reason why black people bring up slavery. If you don't like or agree with the reason that is YOUR problem, not mine. You don't owe me anything. I never said you did and I don't want anything from you. Personally, I can go out by my dam self and make something of my self so before you get a the board and start ranting at least know what you talking about if you don't (obviously you don't) SHUT UP!

THAAANKS!!

Egypt, the difference between 9/11 and slavery is that 9/11 may very well happen again if we forget it. I guarantee you that slavery will never ever happen again in the US. I don't want people to forget that it happened...I want people to stop acting like white people owe black people something. We don't. It was both of our ancestors. There is no law in America that discriminates. America is not a bunch of racists. So basically, get over it and stop bothering us for what happened a long time ago. Were you a slave? Did I own slaves? No? Then shut up.

The fact is joey you are so stupid you can't think of a vaild argument to my post. So you insult my grammer. Oh that was really mature. How old are you again? Wait, aren't you in your 20's. Damn! How sad is that. Grow up man. Its not a freaking essay. I don't have to do freaking grammer check. In fact I was so pissed off by your ignorance I was just typing from the heart. Personally I don't give a dam about how smart you think I am because basically I'm not the racist dumb @$$.

AND HELL YES BI.TCH IM BLACK AND PROUD OF IT. I KNOW I'M SMART AND I LOVE EVERY PERSON NO MATTER WHAT THEIR RACE IS. I WISH I COULD SAY THE SAME FOR YOUR POOR MISGUIDED SOUL.

Yes, yes, that last post was out of line, but emotion got to me first.

But talk about ignorance, someone is ignorant of basic writing skills.

There.

jen, you have too much faith in him. i dont even think "civil" is in his vocabulary.

Joey, damnit, that last post was pointless and antagonistic. At least respond to what she said rather than insulting her grammar (which was better than that of many on this site.) Be civil; I know you can do it.

Love to all, Jen.

EgyptianQueen69, you're black aren't you? Because I could swear by all the grammar and spelling mistakes that you were.

It's a fact, white kids tend to do better in school than black kids.

Maybe you should first consult a dictionary and um, probably an English textbook before spouting off.