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(note: The thread title was not serious, but you have to agree, this is ridiculous.)

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and I apologize,

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You shouldn't be apologizing to us about sparking a debate; you should be apologizing to every homosexual you come across, for being so discriminatory and close-minded.

Why thank you.

Haha, man, that was a good zinging, EarthGoddess.

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Christians have been persecuted for hundreds and hundreds of years, yet we don't have countless parades about/ in memory of all of the martyrs.

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So have Pagans. And Homosexuals. And Jews. And Muslims. And Women. And Children. And African Americans. It's true that they don't NEED a parade, but we live in America and homosexuals can have a parade if they want to. Christians have practically taken over America and they're about to destroy it, so don't give us that "Christians have been persecuted for hundreds of years" crap. Homosexuals have been murdered and tortured for hundreds of years and they are still being murdered and tortured today, in America the "Land of the Free".

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I do not believe that gays should be married. If they want to live together and all that, go ahead. But it should not be called marriage.

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Well, if they live together for decades, like so many have, and one of them dies, the other one doesn't get any money at all to help them or any children they may have. That is unfair and unamerican.

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and gay marriage does affect my lifestyle.

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Please tell me how. There are gays that are married right now and some that have married over 10 years ago. How did that affect your lifestyle? Did a piece of the sky fall on your head and cause brain damage?

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Christians will end up in jail for voicing their opinions about homosexuality

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It's sad that you actually believe that. Give me proof. Where are the documents that suggest this?

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I don't think Christians should have to either, just because we live in America

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You have no soul. See you in Hell, b*tch.

crazy child read my 2 or 3 previous posts on this, then you will know why there are gay pride parades...if you ask why there are gay pride then you have to ask, why are there saint patrick day parades? why are there chinese new year parades? why is there a (in chicago) bud biliken parade ( an african american parade)? why is there any kind of parade? read those other entries and you will see

I have to say, that these gay parades are a little too much. I know that some people want others to know that they're gay, but some people just don't care ok? Its like they are refering to themselves as a race. Hey we are all human and it doesn't matter if Bill likes men and Calvin (random names) likes women. Why can't they just show their love to their partner like everyone else and leave it at that?

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Marriage is a Christian institution.

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Oh. So that explains why people who aren't Christian can't get married.

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Christians will end up in jail for voicing their opinions about homosexuality (even in the privacy of their own churches)

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You don't get put in jail for saying voicing your opinion, even if it's mean. If you did, I couldn't call Christians stupid, men couldn't call women *****es, and teenage girls couldn't call other teenage girls ****s.

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Marriage is a Christian institution. Don't hate Christians for opting not to marry you in their churches when their doctrine goes strictly against homosexual acts/ marriages. (Leviticus 18:22 "Don't have sex with a man as one does with a woman. That is abhorrent.")

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wow there is so much false info in that one paragraph i dont know where to begin so here it goes...ONE marriage is NOT a christian institution marriages have been occuring since before christianity was even thought of and it has been found in most societies and religions...SECOND I dont hat christians i never said that AND Not all christian faiths believe that Same Sex marriage is bad or wrong...The Congregationalist church, the universal unitarians, the quakers, there is a strong movement occuring in the lutheran church right now, a huge baptist organization i really cant member the name now b ut i will look it up has come out against the amendment, the united methodist church has come out against it, so has the naacp which is not religious but is headed by numerous religious affiliates, the rainbow push coalition which is run by african american reverends, the metropolitan church of christ, and the WIFE OF THE REVEREND DR MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR HAS COME OUT IN FAVOR OF IT SAYING HER HUSBAND WAS A FIRM BELIEVER IN THE RIGHTS OF LGBT PEOPLES and so many other christian faiths do not believe that so dont label them as that just cause you have been brainwashed by bigots...THIRD if you are going to quote the bible why dont u quote in leviticus where it says in chapter 11 that you cannot eat any animal that has divided hooves or chews cud, ie pigs, of that you cannot eat any seafood that doesnt have scales, ie oysters, shrimp, etc..or in leviticus 19 19 where it says do not breed two different animals in the same field or wear clothes made up of two diff materials? or in leviticus 19 33 where it says do not mistreat foreigners in your land? or in leviticus 26 22 where it says if u disobey god wild animals will eat your children, or in leviticus 26 29 where it says that you will be so hungry you will eat your own children. but didnt it just say the wild animals ate your children?! or when it says that if a woman goes out when she has her period gods sacred tent will become unclean and the whole nation of israel will die...IF YOU ARE GOING TO QUOTE LEVITICUS QUOTE ALL OF IT AND APPLY ALL OF IT TO YOURSELF!!!!!!

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If gay marriage is allowed and more gay rights are awarded, Christians will end up in jail for voicing their opinions about homosexuality (even in the privacy of their own churches) for the sake of tolerance.

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HAHA THAT IS PRICLESS, DEF GOING IN MY LIVEJOURNAL AS THE QOUTE OF THE DAY!!! HAHAHA...wow i am not going to adress how stupid that is, i think everyone else can see...

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If you even mentioned that you were gay (even in a joking manner) in many of the other world religions (Hinduism, Islam...) you would have your head blown off. They don't tolerate it. I don't think Christians should have to either, just because we live in America.

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wo dont ****ing talk about other religions when you dont even know about yours, FIRST the hindu faith is one of the most accepting of homosexuality so to claim that they would shoot you! that is ridiculous...lay off the accusations of other faiths until you get your facts straight, and to say that you dont have to tolerate those different than you simply cause you are an american is the most UNAMERICAN THING ONE CAN SAY, way to show your patriotism

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Christians have been persecuted for hundreds and hundreds of years, yet we don't have countless parades about/ in memory of all of the martyrs. What about Columbine? Cassie Bernall (I think I spelled her last name right, my apologies if not) died for her Christian beliefs. We don't make a huge Christian revival movement with glitzy parades out of that.

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dont ****ing tell me christians have been persecuted for hundreds of years, when those who have been the ones doing the persecuting are CHRISTIANS!!! dont ****ing talk to me about being bullied for being christian when i cant walk down the hall without being called a ****** or hearing that is so gay...and speaking of columbine...why did they go on a killing spree? cause they were bullied their entire lives...they were called satan worshipers and were made fun of by kids who were self identified christians so of course they are going to go after those kids, and that is not a justification it is an explanation...Actually there is a christian revival movement but instead of glitzy parades, which EVERY CULTURE HAS, and ps in every parade people dress up in crazy costumes, look at the saint patties day parade, people look freaking crazy at that. And seeing that i doubt you have ever been to a pride parade how the hell do you know what they commemorate? the commemorate what happened that day and the fact that we are proud of our culture and its diversity and the fact that we can have fun and to say **** you we dont care what you think we are who we are!!!

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shanananananana whatever your username is, you really need to learn what gay pride is and what it commemorates

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Wow, I really pissed you off, didn't I? It's not that hard to copy and paste if you can't spell my user name right, jeez. At least give me the respect.

Okay, I understand your motivation to display the fact that you've made a different choice. I understand that you want to commemorate the last Sunday of June thing, but I don't really think that that is the motivation behind the gay parades. They might fall on that certain date or period of time, but I don't think that it's commemorating necessarily the events of June 1969.

I get discriminated towards and hated and made fun of because of the fact that I'm a Christian and that I'm a virgin and whatnot, but I don't go around having parades about that.

Christians have been persecuted for hundreds and hundreds of years, yet we don't have countless parades about/ in memory of all of the martyrs. What about Columbine? Cassie Bernall (I think I spelled her last name right, my apologies if not) died for her Christian beliefs. We don't make a huge Christian revival movement with glitzy parades out of that.

I dunno where all of this is going, but I do not like it.

Yes, I do support ammendments to our constitution to make marriage between one man and one woman. I do not believe that gays should be married. If they want to live together and all that, go ahead. But it should not be called marriage.

Marriage is a Christian institution. Don't hate Christians for opting not to marry you in their churches when their doctrine goes strictly against homosexual acts/ marriages. (Leviticus 18:22 "Don't have sex with a man as one does with a woman. That is abhorrent.")

I know this is probly gonna spark more debate, and I apologize, I just really needed to put this out there because it needs to be said. I'm sick of hearing all of this tollerance crap. I do not have to tolerate you, yes I should treat you with respect (and I will), but I do not have to tolerate your lifestyle if it affects mine, and gay marriage does affect my lifestyle.

If gay marriage is allowed and more gay rights are awarded, Christians will end up in jail for voicing their opinions about homosexuality (even in the privacy of their own churches) for the sake of tolerance.

If you even mentioned that you were gay (even in a joking manner) in many of the other world religions (Hinduism, Islam...) you would have your head blown off. They don't tolerate it. I don't think Christians should have to either, just because we live in America.

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Isnt the whole idea of getting married declaring your heterosexualness. Its rubbing it in homosexuals faces, I can get married and you cant hahaha!

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wrong. i know a man (who is gay) who married a woman and had 4 kids.

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Isnt the whole idea of getting married declaring your heterosexualness. Its rubbing it in homosexuals faces, I can get married and you cant hahaha!

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The point of marriage is not about mocking homosexuality. I'm assuming you know that and are just trying to get a rise out of people, as you usually do. So I won't elaborate.

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so now every year on the last sunday of every june... cities hold pride parades to remember stonewall and to say we are not going to take it anymore!

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So in order to remember a grevious civil rights violation, you dress up in cheezy and offensive outfits and act like morons? What happened to dignity?

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so next time you think it is annoying and laugh at gay rights rallies or parade remember the hate we experience everyday

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I will, however, still find the parades annoying not because of there "official" purpose, but because of thier @ssinine content.

Face it. The gay pride movement lost it's bearings a long time ago.

QUOTE] think that gay pride has gone waaay to far. I'm straight, but I don't go around declaring my heterosexualness! It's just annoying to have to listen to and watch all the gay parades and all of the gay rallies. We get it, okay? You're gay. lol. jeez.[ [/QUOTE]

shanananananana whatever your username is, you really need to learn what gay pride is and what it commemorates, On the last sunday in June 1969 a popular gay club called STONEWALL in ny was raided by cops as it was still techincally illegal to be gay...anyway the cops went on a rampage just like numerous times before and started beating people at the bar...instead of taking it like so many did before...the gays bashed back...resulting in days of riots in "the village" (the gay sector of ny). so now every year on the last sunday of every june... cities hold pride parades to remember stonewall and to say we are not going to take it anymore! so next time you think it is annoying and laugh at gay rights rallies or parade remember the hate we experience everyday

Isnt the whole idea of getting married declaring your heterosexualness. Its rubbing it in homosexuals faces, I can get married and you cant hahaha!

I think that gay pride has gone waaay to far. I'm straight, but I don't go around declaring my heterosexualness! It's just annoying to have to listen to and watch all the gay parades and all of the gay rallies. We get it, okay? You're gay. lol. jeez.

About the "Gay Fuel": That's not Gay Pride, that's Gay Marketing, there are two very different things. (If you knew anything about the GLBT community, you'd know they're not about to buy something just because it has "gay" on it).

And as for the whole g-string feather boa thing...I have to argue with you there. It's not like it happens every day. It's usually only during Pride Fests and that sort of thing, and there is a reason for it.

Many, many gays have been killed, beaten, abused, and all around trashed on for years and years...we've tried peaceful protests, we've tried sit ins, we've tried going to the government, we've (the GLBT community) tried everything to get them off of our backs.

Nothing's worked. We're still being discriminated against, even by our own government. (Yes, we've made progress, but in the long run, it's obviously very little when our government's trying to take away one of our civil rights).

Does that mean we should run around in G-Strings and feather Boa's and kiss our partners? Yes and no. At Pride Festivals, it's a little different. It's a way of being allowed to be who you are for a day and just cut loose--something many homosexuals don't get to do very often because of the opression, criticism, and abuse they face.

Is it inappropriate? Not to the majority of the general public. But, the folks who go to Pride fests go to hang out around people like them and have fun being who they are, and in all honesty, to most of the GLBT community, that's not that outrageous, and most of them are very, very comfortable with it.

Yes, the pictures the media strew about show it constantly...but it's not entirely like that. To be honest, the media makes it seem outlandish and ridiculous and like every person there is in full drag and acting nuts like that. And that's just not true, as a matter of fact, Pride Fests are very mellow and quite the opposite.

I'm sorry if this offends you, but why do you care? Do you have to go to the fests? Are you even GLBT? Do you have to read the meida about it? not really. And I find it hard to believe that you're seeing queens running around like that normally.

Ah, and as for your comment about the civil rights movement and how they accomplished it....I hate to tell you, but they did alot of the same things the GLBT community does. Did they run around in outfits? Probably not, but the "outfits" you're referring to are known as "drag", and it's cross dressing and alot of gays do it, it is a part of our culture, and yes, gasp, we have our own culture because we've been shunned by the straight world.

Black's still have days where they get to gether and celebrate their culture, why can't gays? Hrmm?

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Reserve in behavior. One kissing in public, and holding hands, while still very PG-rated, wouldn't be showing as much reserve regarding their behavior, as, say, someone who wasn't kissing in public.

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Come on now, lets be realistic. By kissing I do not mean extended make out sessions. And holding hands has been a completely acceptable practice for, oh I don't know, a hundred years or so.

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So they are lacking in modesty, although not as much as "flamboyant" homosexuals, is that what you're trying to say? That's a good point, but you have to realize that one the whole, most homosexual couples aren't doing anything in public that most heterosexuals couples do. I think what people have a problem with are the Gay Pride marches and parades, where anything goes. Yes, there are whole a lot of displays of affection between homosexuals, and they do tend to dress outrageously, but that's the point of the parades and marches: to celebrate them, in all their splendor.

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And this is exactly the problem. Flamboyant displays of pride irritate people. Sexual orientation should have no "splendor" associated with it, just like race. Think about how the civil rights movement was successful. Not through chants of "We're back, we're black, get used to it." and parades of people running around in tribal outfits. It was won by calm, mature rationalization and peaceful, intellectually powerful protest. The point of the movement was to show the country that blacks were more or less the same people as whites. The same should be true of the gay rights movement. However, the flamboyancy only serves to distance the gay pride movement from mainstream society. Why? Because then people are justified in saying "Gays are different". If your average homosexual does go around making out in public all the time and wearing rediculous outfits, then screw them. However, if you don't act like a moron, I've got no problem with you.

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Again, holding hands, walking together, and single kisses are not really lacking in a sense of modesty or decency now are they?

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I'm seriously not trying to argue with you, DrStrangelove, but yes, I would actually say that holding hands and kisses are only going to be done by people who lack modesty. But, I went back to Dictionary.com, and I got three definitions of modesty.

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mod·es·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (md-st) n.
The state or quality of being modest.

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Man, don't you just hate definitions like this one?

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Reserve or propriety in speech, dress, or behavior.

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Reserve in behavior. One kissing in public, and holding hands, while still very PG-rated, wouldn't be showing as much reserve regarding their behavior, as, say, someone who wasn't kissing in public. So they are lacking in modesty, although not as much as "flamboyant" homosexuals, is that what you're trying to say? That's a good point, but you have to realize that one the whole, most homosexual couples aren't doing anything in public that most heterosexuals couples do. I think what people have a problem with are the Gay Pride marches and parades, where anything goes. Yes, there are whole a lot of displays of affection between homosexuals, and they do tend to dress outrageously, but that's the point of the parades and marches: to celebrate them, in all their splendor. To show that they're not going to stop being them just because some people want them to. To show the world that they are proud of themselves, even as they frolic half naked with members of their sex. And, I, for one, think that's great. Obviously, not everyone is going to share my opinion on the matter, but the point it, one the whole, homosexuals don't do anything in public that heterosexuals do. The only exceptions I could think of would be the Gay Pride parades and marches, and I believe that if there were Straight Pride parades, we would do more or less the same thing as homosexuals, in terms of dressing crazy, and being very public with our sex life. That's just my theory, as we don't have Straight Pride parades, as far as I know, and that's probably a good thing, as I'm sure there would be more rapes at that parade than pride.

Ok, I went back to our good friend dictionary.com, and the supplemental information for shameless is: Drumroll please....

"Shameless implies a lack of modesty, sense of decency, or regard for others' rights or feelings: a shameless liar; a shameless accusation."

Shamelessly does not just mean "not ashamed". There are other connotations. Again, holding hands, walking together, and single kisses are not really lacking in a sense of modesty or decency now are they?

As I more or less explained it before. This could have been avoided if people had a strong grasp of the english language.

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I find it aggravating when homosexuals flaunt their preferences.

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Well, I personally find it irritating when heterosexuals flaunt their heterosexualness (am I making up words as I go along, because that's what it feels like), and I'm heterosexual, so how about we agree that any form of PDA, besides the song, is an annoyance?

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"To exhibit ostentatiously or shamelessly".

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Shamelessly, correct me if I'm wrong, means "without shame". I don't see too many heterosexual couples holding hands with each other, then releasing the other one's hands, and looking shameful, so all I can do is assume they're holding hands shamelessly. Holding hands more or less means "exhibit". So the heterosexual couples I know are exhibiting shamelessly. You know, they should have a word that means that. Oh, wait, according to dictionary.com, they do. Flaunt.